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US Space Policy Update Urges International Cooperation 66

eldavojohn writes "The recent shift in NASA's spaceflight goals has caused great stress in the space community and those related to efforts in space. A White House update to the policy is said to emphasize cooperation with the international community and looks to be a move away from individual nations competing in space. Instead, the document urges intense competition (PDF) in the commercial sector and reasons that 'The United States considers the sustainability, stability, and free access to, and use of, space vital to its national interests. It is the shared interest of all nations to act responsibly in ways that emphasize openness and transparency, and help prevent mishaps, misperceptions, and mistrust.' Space.com also notes that you can submit your comments and thoughts to the task force Obama appointed to determine new directions. No doubt this avoidance or departure from another Space Race will have a lot of people concerned that the US is out of the game."
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US Space Policy Update Urges International Cooperation

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  • Re:WHAT game?!?!? (Score:5, Informative)

    by atrain728 ( 1835698 ) on Monday June 28, 2010 @05:34PM (#32722990)
    So... who's spending more than NASA?

    According to this [spacedaily.com] the Chinese were spending about 1/10th of NASA in 2007. Does that make them the Royals?

    JAXA [wikipedia.org] comes in at around 2 billion dollars as well.

    ISRO spends about half that ($1.23 billion). [wikipedia.org]

    Oh, who could forget about Russia? The FRO has a declared budget of about $2.4 billion. [wikipedia.org]

    Puny old NASA with it's $17.6 billion budget. The Mets indeed.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 28, 2010 @05:53PM (#32723260)

    Apollo got 12 people on the moon, each for a few days, at the expense of three more lives, and only at the very end did anybody think to send up a lone geologist.

    The ISS has had over six times as many people on orbit, for weeks and months at a time, doing actual science.

    Spectacle != progress

  • by Silm ( 1135973 ) on Monday June 28, 2010 @05:57PM (#32723320)
    This document is not a " This is what NASA is going to do" sort of thing; It is a top-level, national guideline towards spacerelated ( and by related, I mean everything even vaguely connected ) business. Even school teaching programs. And if the USA can get data from satellites for climate change. This is a set of soft guidelines, without any realistic impact. For that impact, we need way, way more technical and financial reports.
    For such a thing we will have to wait till congress looks at budget proposals, and some real life testing. constellation is still doing some tests, but everyone knows that the Ares 1 will never launch a single human to orbit. Officially - and even this document changes nothing about that - it is still going on.
    And please, dont attach too much meaning to rumors of a new "space race". The chinese have a launch rate of one mission every 2 years. They are currrently way below 1965 level of experience from the USA. Instead, look at the slow but significant progress:
    ESA getting Soyuz acces: http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/Launchers_Home/SEMXN619Y8G_0.html [esa.int]
    Russia upgrading its production facilities to build a 5th soyuz ( notably the upgrading of its thermal room so that 2 soyuz heatshields at the same time can be fitted to the spacecrafts: http://www.federalspace.ru/main.php?id=2&nid=9719&lang=en [federalspace.ru]
    While its nothing flashy and I think there should be more money into spaceflight, spaceX and orbital and the likes are really going for it. Talk in the article about "losing the space race" is overly simplistic, certainly with an ISS that'll be around till atleast 2020, and very possibly 2030. It is international, dont forget that.
    also, a rumor; ATK ( they manufacture the shuttle srbms) have finally caved in it seems, and are willing to build the old 4 segment boosters instead of continueing to lobby for a 5 segment version. Great news; they finally might get something moving now...
  • by FleaPlus ( 6935 ) on Monday June 28, 2010 @06:10PM (#32723526) Journal

    First off, a full link to the document (instead of the short fact sheet linked in the original post) is here:

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/national_space_policy_6-28-10.pdf [whitehouse.gov]

    It's useful to compare this to the 2006 National Space Policy document issued by the Bush administration:

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/microsites/ostp/national-space-policy-2006.pdf [whitehouse.gov]

    Space Politics has a pretty good comparison of the two:

    http://www.spacepolitics.com/2010/06/28/the-new-national-space-policy-is-out/ [spacepolitics.com]

    I think the revised section on commercial space is quite promising:

    Commercial Space Guidelines
    The term "commercial," for the purposes of this policy, refers to space goods, services, or activities provided by private sector enterprises that bear a reasonable portion of the investment risk and responsibility for the activity, operate in accordance with typical market-based incentives for controlling cost
    and optimizing return on investment, and have the legal capacity to offer these goods or services to
    existing or potential nongovernmental customers . To promote a robust domestic commercial space
    industry, departments and agencies shall:
    Purchase and use commercial space capabilities and services to the maximum practical extent
    when such capabilities and services are available in the marketplace and meet United States
    Government requirements;
    Modify commercial space capabilities and services to meet government requirements when
    existing commercial capabilities and services do not fully meet these requirements and the
    potential modification represents a more cost-effective and timely acquisition approach for
    the government;
    Actively explore the use of inventive, nontraditional arrangements for acquiring commercial
    space goods and services to meet United States Government requirements, including measures
    such as public-private partnerships, hosting government capabilities on commercial spacecraft,
    and purchasing scientific or operational data products from commercial satellite operators in
    support of government missions;
    Develop governmental space systems only when it is in the national interest and there is no
    suitable, cost-effective U .S . commercial or, as appropriate, foreign commercial service or system
    that is or will be available;
    Refrain from conducting United States Government space activities that preclude, discourage,
    or compete with U .S . commercial space activities, unless required by national security or public
    safety;
    Pursue potential opportunities for transferring routine, operational space functions to the
    commercial space sector where beneficial and cost-effective, except where the government
    has legal, security, or safety needs that would preclude commercialization;
    Cultivate increased technological innovation and entrepreneurship in the commercial space
    sector through the use of incentives such as prizes and competitions;
    Ensure that United States Government space technology and infrastructure are made available
    for commercial use on a reimbursable, noninterference, and equitable basis to the maximum
    practical extent;
    Minimize, as much as possible, the regulatory burden for commercial space activities and ensure
    that the regulatory environment for licensing space activities is timely and responsive;
    Foster fair and open global trade and commerce through the promotion of suitable standards
    and regulations that have been developed with input from U .S . industry;
    Encourage the purchase and us

  • Mistake (Score:3, Informative)

    by tsotha ( 720379 ) on Monday June 28, 2010 @08:55PM (#32725150)

    It's a mistake to depend too heavily on international ventures. Countries have different political and economic cycles - you tend to find yourself halfway through something ambitious when your partners decide they don't want to fund it any more. The ISS was a classic case of this kind of thing - we ended up bailing out the Russians as they went through problems after the collapse of the Soviet Union. The Europeans were slow with their supply ships. The US stayed in the project when it would have made sense to cancel it, then we kept the shuttle fleet flying longer than we should have to service the ISS.

    You may save money up front by penciling in partners, but you pay a big price in flexibility.

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