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Comments: 334 + -   Scientists Discover Booze That Won't Give You a Hangover on Tuesday March 02, @02:58PM

Posted by samzenpus on Tuesday March 02, @02:58PM
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Kwang-il Kwon and Hye Gwang Jeong of Chungnam National University have discovered that drinking alcohol with oxygen bubbles added leads to fewer hangovers and a shorter sobering up time. People drinking the bubbly booze sobered up 20-30 minutes faster and had less severe and fewer hangovers than people who drank the non-fizzy stuff. Kwon said: "The oxygen-enriched alcohol beverage reduces plasma alcohol concentrations faster than a normal dissolved-oxygen alcohol beverage does. This could provide both clinical and real-life significance. The oxygen-enriched alcohol beverage would allow individuals to become sober faster, and reduce the side effects of acetaldehyde without a significant difference in alcohol's effects. Furthermore, the reduced time to a lower BAC may reduce alcohol-related accidents."

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  • Beer (Score:5, Insightful)

    by sopssa (1498795) * <sopssa@email.com> on Tuesday March 02, @02:58PM (#31333464) Journal

    Reducing hangover is all fine and good, but if it sobers you up faster couldn't you just get a beer with less alcohol? The effect is basically the same.

    For that matter, the high and fast drunkenness is probably even worse. You know it goes away fast, so you drink faster and more. This would probably be good for taking a one quick beer at lunch or so, but hangover isn't an issue then.

    If I'm going out or take some beers otherwise, I rather have it last longer and be more balanced over the night. That's also why I prefer those Belgian 11% beers. In addition to having more taste in them, one glass lasts a lot longer and you don't need to be pissing all the time.

    Now give me a 80% vodka with no hangovers and I'm ready to roll.

    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by ircmaxell (1117387)

      Reducing hangover is all fine and good, but if it sobers you up faster couldn't you just get a beer with less alcohol? The effect is basically the same.

      Unless it has a retroactive effect... What I mean is that you can drink regular beer all night, and then the last beer or two are these oxy-enriched beers. That way the added oxygen helps speed up recovery, but doesn't have a detrimental effect during drinking (At least as far as the buzz factor goes)...

      Now, that I think about it, I wonder if these effe

      • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

        Now, that I think about it, I wonder if these effects are limited to oxygen enriched beer, or if it's just the oxygen itself. If it's just O2, you could have a portable O2 enricher that lets you breath pure O2 for a little while... Or O2 enriched water (oh yay, another way for them to charge more for H20)...

        Seems to me I have read before that fighter pilots have been using a shot of O2 to clear up a hangover for a long time. At least since the 80's.

      • Re:Beer (Score:4, Funny)

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 02, @03:09PM (#31333660)
        no he meant 160 Proof, he doesn't f$%# around when it comes to Vodka.
      • Re:Beer (Score:5, Funny)

        by sopssa (1498795) * <sopssa@email.com> on Tuesday March 02, @03:11PM (#31333676) Journal

        No, I did mean 80%. It kicks ass ;)

          • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

            by Otto (17870)

            Actually, he used a percentage measurement. Which is valid on both "sides of the pond", as well as anywhere else in the universe that has "math".

            Most people measure alcohol in percentage ABV. Only old-timers use "proof".

            And "degrees proof" is only really used in the UK, despite it making no sense. "Degrees" of what, exactly? In America, it's just "proof", if it's used at all. Usually it ain't, as places that require labeling of ABV require a percentage measurement. Nowhere requires a "proof" to be put on th

              • Re:Beer (Score:5, Informative)

                by nabsltd (1313397) on Tuesday March 02, @04:17PM (#31334762)

                Though most of them are now listed in the "%ABV(#Proof) format. Kind of sad, since it shows that some people are too stupid to realize that proof is just ABV/2.

                Irony, thy name is "Omestes".

                Proof = ABV * 2, not ABV / 2.

              • Re:Beer (Score:4, Insightful)

                by Otto (17870) on Tuesday March 02, @05:13PM (#31335756) Homepage Journal

                Kind of sad, since it shows that some people are too stupid to realize that proof is just ABV/2.

                That was sort of the point of my original conversation.

                Proof = ABV * 2, but only in the United States. In the United Kingdom, Proof = 7/4 * ABV. Meaning that pure ethanol is 175 degrees proof in the UK, but 200 proof in the US. A vodka that US people would call 80 proof would only be 70 proof in the UK.

                Proof is basically an historical measurement only, and here in the US we don't even have the correct ratio to make it historically accurate. 7:4 is the correct ratio for the gunpowder explanation, not 2:1. So proof, as you use it, is totally meaningless.

            • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

              by Red Flayer (890720)
              Eh, nevermind. Didn't realize that the UK boozers used a different formula for calculating proof.

              I'll go shut up now.
      • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

        by h4rr4r (612664)

        No, he meant 160 proof double vodka.

        • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

          by Anonymous Coward

          As a brewer by profession I would like to make it known: Oxygen is the enemy plain and simple. After/during fermentation it should not come in contact with the beer/wort until it's in the customer's glass. We take great measures to assure this.

          • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

            by JWSmythe (446288)

                That sounds like a dangerous idea in a smoking bar.

                I still drink in good ol' fashion pubs, where they serve more dark ales than pale American drink (it hurts to call it beer). Most of the customers smoke. About half the bar staff smoke when there is a lull in orders. It's not an ideal place to release a gaseous oxidizer.

      • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

        by JWSmythe (446288)

        So you're saying oxygen enriched Bacardi 151 [wikipedia.org] or 190 proof Everclear [wikipedia.org] could be hazardous? :)

        • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

          Mmmm, Everclear...

            • by clone53421 (1310749) on Tuesday March 02, @04:57PM (#31335472) Journal

              I’d be able to tell a story about Everclear, if only I remembered it.

            • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

              by cayenne8 (626475)
              " I have to admit, shots of Everclear are a bit harsher than most drinks I've had. :)"

              Yeah, but back in High School and College..it was the PERFECT stuff for a jungle juice party. You just have the price of admission be a pint or half pint of clear booze, preferably PGA (Everclear)...line a large trash can with plastic liners, fill with ice, booze and hawaiian punch (or something similar) and then, instant party. Man, you could get chicks trashed with that stuff quick too!! This was really great too i

              • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

                by JWSmythe (446288)

                Ahhh, the good ol' days. I remember those parties. It's respectable-ish to start, and pretty much an orgy by the end of the night. What I wouldn't give to be a stupid teenager again. :) Maybe in the next life. Of course, we have to remember the "no fat chicks" rule on the party invitations. Well, unless one of your friends is a chubby chaser, and he'd better corral the cows out of sight. :)

                [/me ducks from the "big boned" women in the audience]

      • Re:Beer (Score:5, Funny)

        by CaptKeen (92992) * on Tuesday March 02, @05:00PM (#31335520) Homepage

        A solution to the problem does exist, though. It's called "everything in moderation."

        ... including moderation.

        I find I personally like my moderation in moderate amounts.

        • Re:Beer (Score:4, Insightful)

          by Red Flayer (890720) on Tuesday March 02, @05:41PM (#31336182) Journal

          Hangovers are at least partially caused by dehydration. The "quality" of your vodka will have no effect on that.

          I'll second that.

          Another cause is nervous system acclimation to the alcohol. EtOH is a central nervous system depressant -- in response to prolonged periods of EtOH intoxication, the nervous system ramps up production of some neurotransmitters. When the alcohol intoxication wears off, your nervous system is primed to over-react to stimuli. This is why loud noise and bright light is so bothersome to people with hangovers. I believe it is also why some of the effects of dehydration (especially the headache!) are so pronounced when hung over.

  • Tag as synthohol? (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward

    Can someone tag this as synthohol from star trek.

  • by Pojut (1027544) on Tuesday March 02, @03:01PM (#31333528) Homepage

    I have followed this rule religiously once I started drinking socially. As a result, I have never gotten a hangover. Here it is:

    For every three beers or three shots you drink, drink a glass of water. Also, try to make sure you drink a glass of water before falling asleep.

    You will be hangover free...guaranteed. Simple, safe, and effective.

    • Bathroom break (Score:2, Insightful)

      by MrEricSir (398214)

      That only works because you end up spending half the evening in the bathroom, and therefore consume less alcohol than your buddies.

      • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

        by Pojut (1027544)

        With our Civilization 4 drinking game (drink every time you hear Leonard Nimoy's voice from ANYONE's Civ 4 game in the LAN), there is no such thing as consuming less, lol :-)

  • by Maniacal (12626) on Tuesday March 02, @03:01PM (#31333530)

    No hangover - Good
    Faster sober - Bad

    You're not done mister, get back to the lab.

  • Tag is misspelled. (Score:3, Informative)

    by dgatwood (11270) on Tuesday March 02, @03:01PM (#31333532) Journal

    It's synthehol [memory-alpha.org], not synthahol.

  • Profit for Bars! (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Some guy named Chris (9720) on Tuesday March 02, @03:02PM (#31333542) Journal
    This should also increase profits for bars, since people will have to drink more while they're there to stay good and plastered.
  • Plus it makes red wine taste great!
  • time to soberness (Score:4, Insightful)

    by godrik (1287354) on Tuesday March 02, @03:06PM (#31333600)

    When you are drunk, you are for hours. I don't think removing 20/30 minutes is that relevant.

  • Side effects... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Antony T Curtis (89990) on Tuesday March 02, @03:06PM (#31333610) Homepage Journal

    I am not sure of the benefits of a alcoholic drink which "sobers up faster" other than "sells more booze, kaching!".

    Since it has dissolved oxygen, would it whiten teeth too?

    What would be revolutionary would be a drink which kept the imbibers drunk for a lengthy but known amount of time but after that time, the imbiber would sober up quickly without hangover...

  • mix it with some RED bull! party! aiiiieee! (cue allegro mariachi music)

  • Do NOT Want (Score:5, Funny)

    by Conchobair (1648793) on Tuesday March 02, @03:09PM (#31333650)
    If I want to be sober, I just won't drink. However, when I do drink, (I won't drive) I want to be drunk and stay drunk. I want to be drunk all night and when I wake upside down in a sleeping bag trying to get it open with my toes, I want to wonder how I got there and not be able to remember. This just takes all the fun out of drinking.
  • Bah... (Score:4, Funny)

    by mdm-adph (1030332) <mdmadph&gmail,com> on Tuesday March 02, @03:12PM (#31333698) Homepage

    You can get the same thing with an alcohol enema.

    And we've all been there, right?!?

    Right...?

  • Hydration (Score:3, Informative)

    by Itninja (937614) on Tuesday March 02, @03:13PM (#31333720) Homepage
    Booze never "gives" you a hangover. A hangover comes from the lack of water in your system; dehydration. Just make every second of third drink a glass of water, *poof* no hangovers.
  • by fear025 (763732) on Tuesday March 02, @03:18PM (#31333790)
    As a homebrewer, I know that oxidation of beer can give it "cardboardy" flavors, so this technology is probably useless for beer.

    I'm not sure how long oxidation needs to occur before the off flavors manifest though, so perhaps you could force-oxygenate at pour time.

    Sounds like some experiments need to be done...
  • cold and devoid of oxygen
  • by Ihlosi (895663) on Tuesday March 02, @03:36PM (#31334176)
    ... that putting oxygen in alcohol is a good idea? It sounds like a recipe for rocket fuel to me.
  • by PerfectionLost (1004287) on Tuesday March 02, @04:00PM (#31334512)

    Recently I became a licensed Scuba diver. One thing you learn in scuba diving classes is that you are more likely to get nitrogen poisoning if you are dehydrated, or had been drinking substantially the night before. Typically the way you do a first response treatment of nitrogen poisoning is by supplying pure oxygen.

    I'm sure there's a Q.E.D. in there but I'm pretty sure I'm missing some steps.

  • by advocate_one (662832) on Tuesday March 02, @04:14PM (#31334718)
    many a time I've had a hit of the oxygen the morning after while doing the pre-flight servicing on Phantoms... just plug the PEC in and take a good hit while doing the check of the audio and oxygen systems... anyone questions you, just state you thought you smelt something odd in the breathing air mix and was taking a long sniff to check...

    ps, I was doing this over thirty years ago... and it was well known as a hangover cure back then...

  • Oxygen Tank (Score:3, Informative)

    by BlueBoxSW.com (745855) on Tuesday March 02, @04:25PM (#31334896) Homepage

    It's more effective if you just take a hit from an Oxygen tank.

    Why try to jam the O2 into your drink?

  • by Fujisawa Sensei (207127) on Tuesday March 02, @05:35PM (#31336076)

    Who cares what the researchers say.

    I'm going to have to do my own research. In cases like this, first hand knowledge is the only way to go.

    • Re:Soju with oxygen? (Score:5, Informative)

      by maeka (518272) on Tuesday March 02, @03:08PM (#31333636) Journal

      I'm sold! I'll go check the local Uwajimaya (Asian superstore) for some of this. I don't even remember Soju being in liquor stores. Beer or sparkling wine have carbon dioxide, which it looks like doesn't count.

      One goes to great lengths (for good reason) when bottling beverages to remove existing oxygen, and prevent introduction of new oxygen.
      If this technique for reducing hangovers becomes popular it will need to be done shortly before consumption. (Value-added service at the bar?)

        • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

          Guinness had to solve this exact problem, except with nitrogen instead of oxygen. I think they have a patent on the little plastic capsule filled with gas that only releases when the can/bottle is opened, but other than that I don't see why the same method couldn't be used to release oxygen.

          • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

            by Shagg (99693)

            The Guinness "widget" works because it doesn't require a trigger to release the nitrogen, the pressure change of opening the bottle/can does it. It's based off the fact that nitrogen won't dissolve into beer very easily. I don't think the same device would work with O2.

    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by Matimus (598096)
      This was my first reaction too. It would also require that the beer be pasteurized. Oxygenating (live) beer just gives the yeast more food. which it will then convert to CO2. It is a little more complicated than that, since the yeast needs sugar too. In any case you are seriously messing with the beer's chemistry. Perhaps a system where flat beer gets oxygenated just before serving would work. It might not make good beer, but is worth trying. Of course, I don't tend to drink enough beer to get hang-over dru
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