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New Antifreeze Molecule Isolated In Alaskan Beetle 108

Arvisp writes with the news of a recently discovered antifreeze molecule in an Alaskan beetle that departs from most commonly identified natural antifreeze. "'The most exciting part of this discovery is that this molecule is a whole new kind of antifreeze that may work in a different location of the cell and in a different way,' said zoophysiologist Brian Barnes, director of the University of Alaska Fairbanks Institute of Arctic Biology and one of five scientists who participated in the Alaska Upis ceramboides beetle project. Just as ice crystals form over ice cream left too long in a freezer, ice crystals in an insect or other organism can draw so much water out of the organism's cells that those cells die. Antifreeze molecules function to keep small ice crystals small or to prevent ice crystals from forming at all. They may help freeze-tolerant organisms survive by preventing freezing from penetrating into cells, a lethal condition. Other insects use these molecules to resist freezing by supercooling when they lower their body temperature below the freezing point without becoming solid."
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New Antifreeze Molecule Isolated In Alaskan Beetle

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  • Cryogenics? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by girlintraining ( 1395911 ) on Monday December 21, 2009 @06:50PM (#30517940)

    Could this discovery be developed to make cryogenically preserving people work? As it is right now, the cells rupture during the freezing process -- if the cells remained intact, reviving them would become possible.

  • Re:wait... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by wizardforce ( 1005805 ) on Monday December 21, 2009 @07:11PM (#30518136) Journal

    Unfortunately the summery took this bit drectly from TFA and it is as you'd suspect, technically incorrect. Ice breaks open the cells (lysing them) which causes the cell contents to spill out of the cell into whatever medium they are in. This quite predictably, kills the cells. However, ice that forms extremely rapidly forms a glass-like phase of ice that does less harm to the cells. The interesting things about this new antifreeze molecule are that 1) it's not a protein; it's a fairly simple molecule and 2) it's lipophillic (tends to hang around fatty things like cell membranes) which makes it a very useful discovery in terms of biological antifreeze molecules.

  • Re:YES! (Score:3, Interesting)

    by camperdave ( 969942 ) on Monday December 21, 2009 @07:56PM (#30518526) Journal
    The problem is, of course, how do you go and fetch the warm water when your tongue is frozen to the pole.
  • Re:Cryogenics? (Score:3, Interesting)

    by severoon ( 536737 ) on Monday December 21, 2009 @08:30PM (#30518714) Journal

    This is an interesting supposition, but there's no evidence that anything other than a quick revival would result in life being restored. We know that thermodynamically, the body is a veritable panic of high energy formations that are just dying to degrade (literally). We know that cryogenic freezing would suspend many of these processes...but all of the critical ones?

    We've not yet begun to imagine what those processes even are, much less say with any certainty that cold temperature will suffice to prevent them over a sufficiently long period of time.

    And then there's a whole segment of the population that will argue once the soul flies away, there's no getting it back. :-)

  • Re:Cryogenics? (Score:3, Interesting)

    by lena_10326 ( 1100441 ) on Monday December 21, 2009 @09:48PM (#30519284) Homepage
    Maybe communications could be sent through a small worm hole. Small because maintaining a large worm hole for passing ships through would require vast amounts of energy, but one small enough for a tiny communications pipe would become practical sooner. That would create a faster than light communications device (ansible [wikipedia.org]) so that exploratory machines sent through space could then be controlled real time or close to real time by future generations. The machines could be sent today in hopes that by the time of arrival the technology will have been invented to send communications through a worm hole.
  • Re:Cryogenics? (Score:4, Interesting)

    by zacronos ( 937891 ) on Tuesday December 22, 2009 @12:53AM (#30520540)

    This is an interesting supposition, but there's no evidence that anything other than a quick revival would result in life being restored. We know that thermodynamically, the body is a veritable panic of high energy formations that are just dying to degrade (literally). We know that cryogenic freezing would suspend many of these processes...but all of the critical ones?

    We've not yet begun to imagine what those processes even are, much less say with any certainty that cold temperature will suffice to prevent them over a sufficiently long period of time.

    Quite the opposite, actually. There is evidence [newsweek.com] that in cases of cardiac arrest (where the body is generally healthy aside from the fact that the heart has stopped), slow revival can allow for a higher success rate after longer periods without oxygen, because the cells themselves only die hours after cessation of blood flow. If you read to page 2 of that link, you see that induced hypothermia is sometimes used precisely because it does help slow the process of cell death which follows clinical death. Granted, as far as I'm aware, we don't know that cryogenic freezing would suspend all of such processes, but the state of research in this area is much farther along than you seem to think.

  • Re:Cryogenics? (Score:3, Interesting)

    by reverseengineer ( 580922 ) on Tuesday December 22, 2009 @02:17AM (#30520968)
    There could be serious immunological issues with a compound like this. While it comes from a beetle, structurally this antifreeze seems to have a lot of similarity with bacterial lipopolysaccharides (LPS), which happen to be the endotoxins in Gram-negative bacteria. We produce the aptly-named lipopolysaccharide-binding protein to seek out LPS and raise the alarm to initiate an inflammatory cascade. In the abstract [pnas.org] to the paper, it mentions that a thermal hysteresis effect of 3.7 degrees C was seen at a concentration of 5mg/mL. Making the very rough assumption that the same concentration would be necessary to adequately protect human cells against the deep freeze, the required dose might be hundreds of grams (not unreasonable, considering it would have to integrate into every cell). The toxic response to LPS varies, but bacterial septic shock usually requires about 1/1000th that concentration.

    Of course, nothing is known about the human immune response to this just-discovered compound (which hasn't even beeen fully characterized), so it's wild speculation on my part that your immune system might mistake it for a bacterial endotoxin. But if that did turn out to be the case, ironically it wouldn't be the cold that would kill you- it would be a fever.

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