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Antimatter In Lightning 169

AMESN writes "The Fermi Gamma-ray Space Telescope, launched last year, detects gamma rays from light years away, but recently it detected gamma rays from lightning on Earth. And the energy of the gamma rays is specific to the decay of positrons, which are the antimatter flavor of electrons. Finding antimatter in lightning surprised researchers and suggests the electric field of the lightning somehow got reversed."
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Antimatter In Lightning

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  • reversal schmersal (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07, 2009 @09:57AM (#30014052)

    Antimatter in lightning does not suggest that the electric field got reversed; that's nonsense. The electric field is a vector, and it can point in any direction.

    What it does suggest is either that the few positrons created or brought by cosmic rays are somehow concentrated by lightning, or that the strong electric fields in lightning are actually pulling a few positron-electron pairs out of the quantum electrodynamic vacuum. The first explanation is probably ruled out unless positron decay gamma rays are also seen all over in the atmosphere, just not as densely concentrated as in lightning.

    The second explanation is perfectly possible, if the electric fields in lightning are simply strong enough over large enough volumes of space. Any potential difference greater than 2 m c^2/e will in theory produce positrons and electrons from nothing; this is called 'the Schwinger Effect'. But the rate is ridiculously low unless the field is enormous, and it has not yet been observed. Relatively straightforward calculations would allow one to estimate what sort of electric fields lightning would need to involve, for the observations to be due to the Schwinger Effect.

  • by John Hasler ( 414242 ) on Saturday November 07, 2009 @10:01AM (#30014072) Homepage

    > The article isn't clear about what they say they've detected.

    Nuclear fusion reactions in the lightning produce positrons which then react with electrons to produce the observed gamma rays.

  • by jeffb (2.718) ( 1189693 ) on Saturday November 07, 2009 @10:01AM (#30014074)

    If they're detecting 511KeV gammas generated by "the direct conversion of electrons to energy" not involving positrons, then, yeah, it would be a hell of a discovery, seeing as how it would blow away all those stodgy conservation laws and symmetries and whatnot.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07, 2009 @10:41AM (#30014222)

    If an electron collided with a proton, you'd see hydrogen.

  • How many PHDs (Score:2, Insightful)

    by croux ( 1290734 ) on Saturday November 07, 2009 @06:01PM (#30017104)
    "How many PHDs does it take to change a light bulb?"

    Nearby zero if you trust quantum physics and have a lot of time.

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