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Exoplanet Has Showers of Pebbles 341

Posted by CmdrTaco
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mmmscience writes "The newly-discovered exoplanet COROT-7b has an unusual form of precipitation: rocks. Because it orbits so close to its sun, the temperature on its sun-facing side is around 4220 degrees Fahrenheit. That's hot enough for rocks to vaporize — not unlike water evaporating on Earth. And, like Earth, when the vapor cools in the upper atmosphere, it forms clouds and begins to rain. But instead of water, COROT-7b gets a shower of pebbles."
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Exoplanet Has Showers of Pebbles

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  • by slashmatteo (1606315) on Thursday October 01 2009, @11:44AM (#29606621)
    "the temperature on its sun-facing side is around 4220 degrees Fahrenheit." For anyone using the SI, this is about 2327 degrees Celsius
  • by strateego (598207) on Thursday October 01 2009, @12:12PM (#29607001)
    I believe that SI unit for temperature is kelvin. So 4220 degrees Fahrenheit is approximately 2600 degree Kelvin. Fixed it for you. No need to thank me.
  • by Thanshin (1188877) on Thursday October 01 2009, @12:21PM (#29607085)

    While this is really cool if correct, one needs to understand that this isn't by any means a slam dunk.

    Well, it does come quite close to being a "slam dunk".

  • Let's not exaggerate (Score:5, Informative)

    by slyborg (524607) on Thursday October 01 2009, @12:23PM (#29607105)

    Some hyperbole here.

    The Castle Bravo test shot (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_Bravo) was one of the largest thermonuclear detonations ever, with an estimated yield of 15-22 MT. The blast crater from Bravo was 2000m in diameter and 75m deep. Assuming it was square because I'm too lazy for math today, that's about 300,000 cubic meters. Assuming that this was blasted in solid granite (http://www.allmeasures.com/Formulae/static/materials/32/density.htm) you get about 780k metric tons.

    However, most of this material wasn't vaporized, it was pulverized by the shock wave and propelled as a solid into the mushroom cloud. The actual quantity of material melted I wouldn't hazard to estimate, but it was a small proportion of the overall material excavated.

    Much as in the "it's raining rocks!" planet, this precipitation would be much closer in form to dust, not "pebbles". One of the reason that water on earth comes in larger forms is that the water molecule has a charge, and will aggregate electrostatically. I don't think that would be true of this silicate cloud.

  • Re:Wow (Score:2, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 01 2009, @12:29PM (#29607203)

    RoboCop! What do I win?!

  • Re:Not unusual (Score:5, Informative)

    by Chris Burke (6130) on Thursday October 01 2009, @12:30PM (#29607225) Homepage

    The parent raises a good point. How do we know the rock comes back down to the surface as a solid? Why doesn't it rain lava?

    I'm going to make an educated guess, and say it's in the same way we "know" that it rains any kind of rock at all -- because that's what the simulations said. It says they even varied constraints based on not knowing exactly what the composition of the planet is, but they kept ending up with the same basic result.

    So it all comes down to how good the simulation model is. It's possible it's inaccurate in a way that it is right that there is rock-based precipitation, but that it's in liquid form, but I certainly have no idea.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 01 2009, @12:42PM (#29607387)
  • by FriendlyPrimate (461389) on Thursday October 01 2009, @01:18PM (#29607921)
    No, because it's still a closed system. The solid contents of the planet are continually moving towards the sun (the freshly-deposited rock is always pushing the older rock towards the hot side via gravity) But the overall center of gravity of the planet never changes position relative to the star since the momentum of the solid part of the planet is counteracted by the momentum of the atmosphere moving in the opposite direction. So the planet itself always stays the same distance away from the star.
  • Oops (Score:5, Informative)

    by justthinkit (954982) <floyd@just-think-it.com> on Thursday October 01 2009, @01:28PM (#29608043) Homepage Journal
    The planet is tidally locked. Just stay on the dark side of the planet. The equilibrium temperature there is 59F -- not bad at all.

    This star-facing side has a temperature of about 2600 degrees Kelvin (4220 degrees Fahrenheit). That's infernally hothot enough to vaporize rocks. The global average temperature of Earth's surface, in contrast, is only about 288 degrees Kelvin (59 degrees Fahrenheit).

  • by FriendlyPrimate (461389) on Thursday October 01 2009, @01:40PM (#29608245)
    BTW....this is related to the process that is thought to occur on most tidally-locked rocky planets. They likely do not have atmospheres, since it entirely sublimates on to the cold side of the planet. When the atmosphere freezes out on the cold side, it reduces the atmospheric pressure on the cold side, which causes the atmosphere on the hot side to flow to the cold side, repeating the process until the entire atmosphere is gone. But in this particular case, the 'atmosphere' is getting continuously replaced through evaporation of the planet itself. This process is also one of the reasons why planets around red dwarf stars may be unlikely, since the planet has to be close to the star to receive enough energy from it, but being that close to the star increases the likely-hood of it becoming tidally locked with the star.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 01 2009, @02:09PM (#29608663)

    There is actually some tendency for silicate dust to aggregate electrostatically, but its orders of magnitude lower than water's quirky nature.

  • Re:FYI, about Kelvin (Score:4, Informative)

    by DMUTPeregrine (612791) on Thursday October 01 2009, @02:10PM (#29608667) Journal
    Since Kelvin is indicated just by the K, no degree sign, there should be no need to post the degree sign. "Degrees Kelvin" is a misunderstanding of the system of units.
  • Re:Wow (Score:3, Informative)

    by Gerzel (240421) * <brollyferret&gmail,com> on Thursday October 01 2009, @02:45PM (#29609177) Journal

    With the rain of pebbles it might never form a hard crust but instead be a ball of semi-loose material with a liquid core. There would probably be a "hard" concrete like layer but nothing on the order of tectonic plates so it may be able to form into a sphere rather rapidly constantly shifting so that the shift isn't as noticeable. You might not even see earthquakes there, as the rain would cause more than enough vibration that the underlying shifting of the inner planet would be lost in the noise.

  • by bcmm (768152) on Thursday October 01 2009, @03:14PM (#29609547)
    The Tsar Bomba was an airburst, although the 5-mile-wide fireball did (just) make contact with the ground. Castle Bravo was a groundburst. There is rock on the ground, but not in the air.
  • Re:Wow (Score:3, Informative)

    by camperdave (969942) on Thursday October 01 2009, @04:03PM (#29610157) Journal
    I always took it as an expression of sarcasm.

    From Wikipedia [wikipedia.org]

    Verbal irony is a disparity of expression and intention: when a speaker says one thing but means another, or when a literal meaning is contrary to its intended effect. An example of this is sarcasm.

  • Re:Not unusual (Score:3, Informative)

    by dargaud (518470) <slashdot&gdargaud,net> on Friday October 02 2009, @09:06AM (#29615697) Homepage
    There are several planetary detection methods [wikipedia.org] and 'transit' is indeed one of them.

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