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Comments: 101 +- Science: South Korea's First Rocket Fails To Reach Set Orbit on Tuesday August 25, @03:49PM
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Matt_dk writes "The first satellite launched by South Korea failed to reach its designated orbit pattern on Tuesday, the NY Times is reporting. The two-staged KSLV-1 rocket, built in cooperation with Russia, failed to deliver the 100-kilogram oceanic and atmospheric research satellite into its target orbit. The rocket was launched from the Naro Space Center, 300 miles south of the capital Seoul. 'The failure to push the satellite into its intended orbit was announced by Ahn Myong-man, the minister of education, science and technology, at a news conference. Mr. Ahn gave no further details. But South Korean news outlets, citing unidentified sources, said the satellite broke away from the rocket about 22 miles farther from the Earth than had been intended.'"
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Sometimes they just say that (Score:1, Interesting)
Ooops, maybe I wasn't supposed to say that.
N.K (Score:5, Interesting)
âoeNorth Korea will surely try to use the South Korean launch to justify its own,â said Jeung Young-tae, an analyst at the government-financed Korea Institute for National Unification. âoeBut in the end, its attempt will be dismissed as propaganda because there are clear differences between the two.â
Dismissed by who? The rest of world who already knows everything he says is loaded bull.
Or the "citizens" of North Korea who are brainwashed into believing (or supporting) every word he says.
The people of North Korea are so isolated he could say the Japanese were sending over Godzilla to justify an attack, and the outcome would be the same with regards to domestic support.
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Re:N.K (Score:5, Informative)
Or the "citizens" of North Korea who are brainwashed into believing (or supporting) every word he says.
Give the citizens of North Korea some credit, it isn't really being brainwashed if there's a very real chance of you being sentenced to a few decades hard labor for saying the slightest negative thing about the government.
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Give the citizens of North Korea some credit, it isn't really being brainwashed if there's a very real chance of you being sentenced to a few decades hard labor...
Or your family's food ration paperwork starts going missing a day here and there...far less expensive than maintaining prison camps.
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I don't think you understand just how bad the situation is in terms of the threat that hangs over their heads. I recently read one article about a woman who spent 15 years in a labor camp, essentially digging ditches and filling them back in. Not only that, but her children and her parents were also put into camps as well, several of them dying due to the horrible conditions in those camps. They saw people executed without trial for trying to escape, or for stealing for, or any number of other offenses t
Re:N.K (Score:5, Insightful)
Ah, the perfect solution to a difficult problem, just kill everyone you don't agree with (or in this case don't want to help). Just think, we could get rid of all the 'bad' people in the world; blacks, gays, Mexicans, redheads, poor people. The possibilities are endless!
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And there are times when I look at the state of the world, and wonder if that would be a BAD thing
pleasant dreams
dave mundt
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Re:Sometimes they just say th(but maybe it's true) (Score:2, Informative)
South Korea bumbled its way into the Asian space race Tuesday...It seems that the KSLV-1 first stage, developed by the experienced Russians, worked perfectly. However, the rocket's Korean-made second stage, which was supposed to carry and push the satellite into its place, apparently had some issues.
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/tech/2009/08/129_50676.html [koreatimes.co.kr]
In a video session disclosed only to a limited number of reporters Wednesday, the Korea Aerospace Research Institute (KARI), the country's space agency, revealed footage taken from two built-in cameras planted on the KSLV-1 second stage...The second-stage tumbled back to Earth, and the satellite soon followed, as the remaining fairing was heavy enough to prevent the rocket from achieving desired speed and pushing the satellite to a speed faster than 8 kilometers per second that was required for the spacecraft to remain in orbit,'' Park Jeong-joo, who heads KARI's KSLV systems unit, said.
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/tech/2009/08/129_50747.html [koreatimes.co.kr]
Russian officials cited by "Interfax" are claiming the vehicle failed during second stage flight.
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2009/08/south-korea-launch-of-kslv-1/ [nasaspaceflight.com]
Oh! Oh! (Score:3, Insightful)
In Soviet Russia... ahh... I don't have anything. I best leave it to the professionals.
Re:Oh! Oh! (Score:5, Funny)
In Soviet Russia... ahh... I don't have anything. I best leave it to the professionals.
... the professionals leave it to you?
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Re:Oh! Oh! (Score:4, Funny)
In Soviet Russia... ahh... I don't have anything. I best leave it to the professionals.
In Korea, Soviet Russia jokes are only for old people.
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In Soviet Russia... ahh... I don't have anything. I best leave it to the professionals.
In Korea, Soviet Russia jokes are only for old people.
That would sound so much cooler... IN JAPAN!
Re:Oh! Oh! (Score:5, Funny)
In South Korea, people launch rockets into space.
In Russia, rockets launch people into space.
But, I'm sure South Korea will eventually also develop man-rated space equipment. It'll just take time while they refine the launching capacity.
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However (Score:5, Interesting)
it went far enough to remind N.Korea that S.Korea has rockets.
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I think all they need to remember is that one of South Korea's strongest economic and military allies has a few 100 missiles pointed in their general direction :)
he the the? (Score:5, Funny)
I'm not a grammar nazi, but please. Misspelling the very first word in the summary? I could see if it was some complex word, but its THE, what next, is someone going to misspell A ?
the the New York Times? It shouldn't be too hard for the mods to do a basic proofread of the summary before posting. Not that correcting the mistakes changes the content, but because correcting the mistakes doesn't change the content.
Re:he the the? (Score:5, Funny)
Yeah, Slashdot editors are uh failure of our educational system.
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Looks more like a cut and paste error to me.
300mi South of Seoul? (Score:5, Interesting)
WTF? Naro and Seoul are damn near the two widest flung points in the R.o.K. This is a bit like describing NASA's Houston control facility as "1200 miles South West of Washington D.C." It's correct, but not particularly useful.
-Peter
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WTF? Naro and Seoul are damn near the two widest flung points in the R.o.K. This is a bit like describing NASA's Houston control facility as "1200 miles South West of Washington D.C." It's correct, but not particularly useful.
It was a typo. They meant
the Naro Space Center, located at http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Naro+Space+Center&ll=34.520136,127.644653&z=9 [google.com]
but it came out
the Naro Space Center, 300 miles south of the capital Seoul.
The /. editors were too lazy to catch it.
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"The /. editors were too lazy to catch it."
What editors?
Seriously. Leave the typos in place. The submitter should be held fully accountable for their own mistakes. The effort expended on the part of the writer is one of the ways I determine the amount of weight I give what they write. If the writer cannot be bothered to proofread, then maybe I shouldn't bother to read it to begin with.
As far as the first letter missing from the summary, if it was a cut/paste error on the part of the /. admins (as I suspect
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Re:300mi South of Seoul? (Score:4, Informative)
But someone who isn't familiar with Korean geography gains nothing from this description. They might have well said, "It's in the same country as Seoul." given the relative locations of the two points of interest. In fact that might have been less likely to lead someone to the wrong conclusions, given that calling out Seoul implies that it's the nearest point of interest.
I might have said, "On the South West coast of South Korea." instead.
In fact, I just realized that Nagasaki, Japan, which I think is reasonably well known in the US, is closer to the Naro Space Center than Seoul is!
-Peter
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True enough. Alas, most Americans don't know where Nagasaki is, other than "somewhere in Japan".
Seriously, Seoul is a good base position for anything in Korea (300 miles away? Hell, the State Capital is farther off for some of us)
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There speaks the "voice of reason" in opposition to the notion that people should be well-educated, as opposed to highly trained....
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Why choose? I'm highly trained at a few things, and have a working knowledge of many, many more.
-Peter
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Wait, where is this "South Korea" you keep on talking about?
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I think "island off the southern coast of Korea" would be more descriptive. I imagined Seoul to be more to the SW than it is. As an American born well before the Korean or Veitnam wars, the fact that I can place Seoul as being an asian country (really, it doesn't sound asian) other than the fact that they mention it in the TV show M*A*S*H a bunch of times is rather impressive. Most people just associate S. Korea as the place where DVD players and Kias are born before being shipped to their house.
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the fact that I can place Seoul as being an asian country ... is rather impressive.
I'm not impressed. Seoul is not an asian country. Or any country at all. It's a city in South Korea.
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being in
Re:300mi South of Seoul? (Score:5, Funny)
"Hey, honey, have you seen the remote control?"
"Yeah, it's about 20 feet north of the front door!"
Yep .... real useful.
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Success?? (Score:5, Informative)
Ostensibly a failure for the South Koreans, since some kind of failure of staging caused the satellite to be inserted into the incorrect orbit. And in all likelihood, the perigee ended up being too low, causing the payload to be inserted into the ocean...
The first stage is basically Russian hardware (Khrunichev), and is basically a flight test of the Angara common booster core with an advanced Russian LOX-kerosene RD-191 engine. Since the failure occurred *AFTER* staging, the failure most likely occurred in South Korean hardware.
So if I were the South Koreans, I'd be fairly pissed right now. Although this is only a first attempt; anything space-related is bloody hard, and you've got to expect failures on brand new, untested hardware.
On the other hand, if I were one of the Russian engineers responsible for the first stage, I'd be pretty pleased with the successful Angara flight test.
(Although I'm not sure if I was the only one who saw the launch video, and saw the first stage pitch suddenly before clearing the tower and then pitch in the opposite direction. Didn't look good...)
Re:Success?? (Score:4, Funny)
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"(Although I'm not sure if I was the only one who saw the launch video, and saw the first stage pitch suddenly before clearing the tower and then pitch in the opposite direction. Didn't look good...)"
I agree. I seem to recall a similar looking launch (Russian?) that ended up in fuel and debris raining back onto the launch facilities resulting in the deaths of many on the ground.
When I started watching the video my first thought was "Uh oh", but guidance managed to correct the pitch changes.
Forgive me if I'm
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I assume you're British, in which case you should know that over here pissed means a multitude of things, one of which means angry - clearly the intended meaning here.
I'm not British (though I love the word "bloody") though it's true I knew that, but it was funnier if it was "pissed as in drunk". :)
Just because he's British doesn't mean he has to exclusively use the British alternative, my good sirs!
Nonsense. Didn't the UN just pass a resolution about that? If not they should have.
The most typing-challenged man in the world (Score:5, Funny)
I don't always make a bunch of basic spelling mistakes in my submissions to Slashdot, but when I do, I drink Dos Equis.
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Difference between a rocket and missle test? (Score:2, Insightful)
What is the difference between a rocket and missile test?
Depends on whether it is done below or above the 38th Parallel.
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Outsourcing (Score:2)
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I think you'll actually be modded down to -5 (extreme failure in reading). I realize it did have "Naro space center" but the headline is "South Korea's first rocket," so either you were -trying- to see that or you have really bad reading skills.
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so either you were -trying- to see that or you have really bad reading skills.
Now, now, don't be too hard on him...there's no reason it can't be both.
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Does your payload blow shit up or does it take pictures? You don't think there's a difference between the two? Don't give me shit about military applications of spy satellites. There's a fundamental difference.