Study Suggests Crabs Can Feel Pain

tritonman writes "A new scientific study suggests that crabs can feel and remember pain. From the article: '"More research is needed in this area where a potentially very large problem is being ignored," said Elwood. Legislation to protect crustaceans has been proposed but it is likely to cover only scientific research. Millions of crustacean are caught or reared in aquaculture for the food industry. There is no protection for these animals (with the possible exception of certain states in Australia) as the presumption is that they cannot experience pain.' Perhaps soon there will be a study to determine that vegetables feel pain as well, then all of the vegans will only be allowed to eat rocks."

Actually, vegetables do scream when picked

[WillAffleckUW]

But you'd have to ask a vegetable if it feels pain.

Re:Actually, vegetables do scream when picked

[eln]

But you'd have to ask a vegetable if it feels pain.

I've tried. I ask them over and over again, and they never answer me. Eventually, I get kicked out of the hospital.

Oh, great.

[CelticWhisper]

The Crab People are not going to be happy about their weakness being discovered.

I don't believe

[AnonymousNinja]

I don't believe its selfish, to eat defenseless shellfish.

Scream like a girl"??

[Anonymous Coward]

What is this "girl" creature you speak of?

Much more importantly

[OSUJoe]

What about the pain I would experience not being allowed to eat sweet, delicious crab?

My bad...

[PolishPimpin]

I guess ill have to be careful when I pick them off my bush...

Re:Actually, vegetables do scream when picked

[WillAffleckUW]

You need to learn to whisper to them.

I find a mix of radish and arugula works. Most carrots can understand that.

Re:Required reading

[EveryNickIsTaken]

The lobster might behave as we would, but I can guarantee you that the lobster is much, much tastier. Speaking of which, I think I need to go for some Lobsterfest tonite!

Re:Required reading

[HTH NE1]

There happen to be two main criteria that most ethicists agree on for determining whether a living creature has the capacity to suffer and so has genuine interests that it may or may not be our moral duty to consider. One is how much of the neurological hardware required for pain-experience the animal comes equipped with--nociceptors, prostaglandins, neuronal opioid receptors, etc. The other criterion is whether the animal demonstrates behavior associated with pain. And it takes a lot of intellectual gymnastics and behaviorist hairsplitting not to see struggling, thrashing, and lid-clattering as just such pain-behavior.

Except there's a third criteria: is the animal tasty enough to disregard the other two criteria.

Of course vegetables feel pain.

[Your.Master]

Of course vegetables feel pain [youtube.com].

Re:Actually, vegetables do scream when picked

[arekusu_ou]

Try Mandrakes, their screams will kill you

Re:Actually, vegetables do scream when picked

[ArsonSmith]

Why does Mandrake use ReiserFS?

Re:Required reading

[Anonymous Coward]

I have heard from those that eat bush meat that it is unlike anything else.

You're doing it wrong

Carrot Juice Is Murder

[JJRRutgers]

Listen up, brothers and sisters Come hear my desperate tale I speak of our friends of nature Trapped in the dirt like a jail Vegetables live in oppression Served on our tables each night This killing of veggies is madness I say we take up the fight Salads are only for murderers Cole slaw's a fascist regime Don't think that they don't have feelings Just 'cause a radish can't scream {Refrain} I've heard the screams of the vegetables, scream scream scream Watching their skins being peeled, having their insides revealed Grated and steamed with no mercy, burning off calories How do you think that feels, bet it hurts really bad Carrot juice constitutes murder, and that's a real crime Greenhouses prisons for slaves, let my vegetables grow It's time to stop all this gardening, it's dirty as hell Let's call a spade a spade, it's a spade it's a spade it's a spade I saw a man eating celery So I beat him black and blue If he ever touches a sprout again I'll bite him clean in two I'm a political prisoner Trapped in a windowless cage 'Cause I stopped the slaughter of turnips By killing five men in a rage I told the judge when he sentenced me "This is my finest hour I'll kill those farmers again Just to save one more cauliflower" How low as people do we dare to stoop Making young broccolis bleed in the soup Untie your beans, uncage your tomatoes Set potted plants free, don't mash that potato, ah I've heard the screams of the vegetables scream scream scream Watching their skins being peeled fates in the stir fry are sealed Grated and steamed with no mercy you fat gourmet scum How do you think that feels leave them out in the fields Carrot juice constitutes murder V8's genocide Greenhouses prisons for slaves yes your compost's a grave It's time to stop all this gardening take up macramé Let's call a spade a spade it's a spade it's a spade it's a spade All we are saying is give peas a chance.

Re:Weak point

[Cornflake917]

If the scientists played any Final Fantasy games, they would know that casting "Lightning" on crabs hurts them, and hurts them much more than fire spells. ...Damn, you can tell when it's late afternoon on Friday when I start making retarded posts like these.

Re:Required reading

[Chris Burke]

Except there's a third criteria: is the animal tasty enough to disregard the other two criteria.

Well thank goodness humanity isn't tasty enough to meet that criteria.

And seriously if anyone wants to disagree, don't kid yourself. You are not very delicious.

Re:Actually, vegetables do scream when picked

[cwrinn]

I've heard the screams of the vegetables, watching their skins being peeled. Grated and steamed with no mercy... how do YOU think that feels?

Re:Actually, vegetables do scream when picked

[Soylent Beige]

What's the worst thing about eating vegetables?

The wheelchairs.

Re:Who cares?

[mevets]

MOD(+1): PYSCHO - we really need more colourful categories

Re:Required reading

[davester666]

Typed like someone who has never tried baby meat. Mmmm....

Very tender, but oh so hard to get.

Re:Required reading

[fuzzyfuzzyfungus]

I have a modest proposal that might interest you...

Re:The difference between...

[Capt.DrumkenBum]

Some of my favourite meals are Vegetarians.

Re:So what?

[Anonymous Coward]

That's funny... I didn't know PETA's camps in the middle of the forest had internet.

Re:Does it matter...

[DragonWriter]

if they feel pain? Cattle defiantly do, we still eat them.

Yeah, but that's just because of the defiance.

Re:Required reading

[HTH NE1]

Mmm... Popplers.

Re:Required reading

[Capt.DrumkenBum]

You can guarantee that the lobster is much, much tastier.

How many humans have you eaten? How did you cook them?
Perhaps you are using the wrong spices.

Re:Required reading

[pluther]

But...but...he heard the lid rattling!

What else could possibly cause the lid on the pot of boiling water with a lobster inside to rattle like that?

Re:Simple solution

[mmontour]

Did you know if you dump some instant grits on a fire ant mound the workers will take them in and feed them to the queen, and that she will then die as they slowly expand in her body,

I've been reading Slashdot for many years and I've seen a lot of comments about grits, but that one's new to me.

Re:Required reading

[harrkev]

Democrats too. The only difference is the babies that Republican politicians eat have been born first.

Re:Required reading

[Chosen Reject]

Obviously the water was in pain as it was thrashing about trying to get away from the heat source. That's not steam, those are the precious souls of billions of water molecules you just tortured and burned alive!!!

Re:Required reading

[The Grim Reefer2]

Except there's a third criteria: is the animal tasty enough to disregard the other two criteria.

That reminds me of something my daughter told me while driving past a cow field when she was 4 years old.

"Cows sure are cute daddy... It's too bad they taste so good. Can we have steak when we get home?"

Re:seagulls

[bluefoxlucid]

Bigger, and shorter tails. Americans are often fatter.

Re:Carrot Juice Is Murder

[Hognoxious]

Was the original divided into lines?

Re:Required reading

[Mente]

Pubes

Re:Required reading

[_Sprocket_]

*holds up a glass of water*

BEHOLD! The Resurrection!

Re:Does it matter...

[EkriirkE]

I can't speak for women, but I know it definitely feels good to me to be milked.

Re:Required reading

[FatdogHaiku]

Neither crabs nor lobster if you chase them will take into consideration what you might do next. they just scoot "away" even to the point of bouncing off random objects as they flee. It's clear when you see them that they are not "fleeing" so much s just moving their tail quickly.

I understand your point of view, however, here is video proof of a crustacean performing risk/reward analysis and as a result taking assertive action in order to prolong it's life!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPVJAAhoYrw [youtube.com]

Re:Required reading

[AGMW]

One dumb human trick when they see a tiger is trying run away. Of course they don't know that we tigers can run way faster than them and we always manage to catch them. The funny thing is that when you finally claw them they still try to fight! I, as a tiger, I am not entirely sure humans know they are alive, let alone feel pain. I think I'll have human steak for dinner tonight.

I've heard that you can get the tiger to leave you alone if you grab some shit from behind you and throw it at the tiger. I am also reliably informed that there will be shit available as required.