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Dubai Is Building a Refrigerated Beach 249

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dataxtream writes "The world's first refrigerated beach is to be built at a luxury hotel in Dubai, located along the southern coast of the Persian Gulf. The beach will include heat-absorbing pipes under the sand along with large wind blowers, which will keep tourists cool and guard their feet against the hot sand. Half of me says these guys need a reality check, the other half wants to go there." I believe I've just thought of a way we could solve this whole global warming thing I've been hearing about.

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Dubai Is Building a Refrigerated Beach

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  • by RajivSLK (398494) on Friday December 19, 2008 @07:08PM (#26178989)

    Well, I'd guess that this is a man made beach with strict engineering and erosion control.

    Also, I've lived in Victoria BC Canada for most of my life and our beaches barely change at all. So all beaches are not like Daytona.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 19, 2008 @07:16PM (#26179067)

    Well, yes and no. I grew on an island off of the coast of North Carolina which was basically one giant beach that has to deal with erosion of not only it's beaches but the entire island. Their response to it was to replace the beach.

    I am not an environmental engineer, but I do recall that they would dredge for sand that had naturally eroded off and pump it back onto the beach. They could just put the pipes down and pump the eroded sand back onto the beach every so often.

    Now I'm sure it's not cheap, but Dubai is the kind of place that would have the cash for something like this. Of course if they're designing a beach, I'm sure they could include wave breakers or a way to keep the tide from causing to much erosion. Like moving the moon or building a giant water gate.

  • Re:Why bother going? (Score:5, Informative)

    by istartedi (132515) on Friday December 19, 2008 @07:34PM (#26179203) Journal

    shhhh. You'll pop their bubble. Ooops. Too late [bloomberg.com].

  • by a_ghostwheel (699776) on Friday December 19, 2008 @07:46PM (#26179317)
    Dubai is not a country. It's either an emirate or a city (and judging from context it is a city here). Country is United Arab Emirates which does not really qualify for being called "small country".
  • by Neanderthal Ninny (1153369) on Friday December 19, 2008 @07:48PM (#26179367)

    Your correct. Remember that palm shaped islands call Palms Island, shouldn't all things be that way, and they just spray sand dredged from the bottom of the Persian gulf and lay the palm pattern.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_Islands [wikipedia.org]
    I assume they will use breakwaters like this for the hotel but further away to make it more "aesthetic".
    I don't know about how they will handle the extremist but I know how they handle the tourist already:
    http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/10/16/dubai.sex.couple.prison/index.html [cnn.com]
    http://drinkingfromhome.blogspot.com/2006/04/dubai-rape-victim-faces-prosecution.html [blogspot.com]
    http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/10/31/africa/dubai.php [iht.com]
    I don't know who is worst, the government or the extremist.

  • Re:Patent Pending (Score:3, Informative)

    by causality (777677) on Friday December 19, 2008 @07:53PM (#26179427)

    The world is in a global economic depression and they are rigging up their beach with AC. Give me a break.

    The world is in a global economic depression because everyone's too worried about the global economic depression to spend enough money to pick the economy back up. If you've got the money to spend on something that takes an enormous amount of labour it will be a great thing for the economy as the extra cash circulating will boost everyone's confidence to spend their own. Plus, if you ever wanted to have something like this built, now is the time.

    The world is in a global economic depression because the wealthiest nations have all adopted a centralized banking system like the USA's Federal Reserve. This system, inherently and by design, has more debt than currency in circulation to pay that debt because interest (the "prime rate") is attached to money the moment it is created.

    Let's say that the Federal Reserve has just been set up. There is currently no money in circulation so the first money is created. The prime rate (to make up a nice workable number) is 5%. Let's say the Fed creates ten billion dollars. The Fed gives the USA Government ten billion dollars. In exchange, the USA Government gives the Fed government bonds (a promise to pay back) worth $10,500,000,000 (the original ten billion plus the 5% interest). Now you have money in circulation. Except now you have a problem because there is only ten billion dollars in your entire economy and there is ten billion five-hundred million dollars in debt. The only thing you can do is keep borrowing more money (also at interest) to pay down the interest, and to borrow yet more to pay down the interest from that, ad nauseum. What you have is a downwardly-spiraling cycle of debt. Debt, the only form of slavery that's still legal. What's funny about this is that even if you could pay off all debt (and under this system, you can't), the result would be no more money in circulation!

    To say that inflation is built into this system does not even begin to scratch the surface. You have more debt than you have dollars in circulation, and the dollars effectively represent debt and not wealth. That excess debt doesn't just go away. Someone ends up holding that debt. These are your bankruptcies and foreclosures and your bailouts. Bad decision-making causes many of these, but with this system they must exist no matter what and furthermore, they must get worse because it's a debt cycle. So, decision-making merely decides who winds up with this debt. And what is the result of debt and bankruptcy? The result is that the banks foreclose and become the owners of actual wealth (as opposed to fiat currency) like real estate.

    That's why the debates about whether to bail out The Big Three are phony. The debate about whether efforts to give credit to people with poor credit histories caused the mortgage crisis (during which less than 5% of buyers defaulted) is also immaterial even if every point raised is valid. The system is inherently broken, no amount of tinkering will fix it, and it's not like the media is going to point this out even though this fact can be known by anyone who cares to study the Federal Reserve and fractional reserve banking.

    I hope people understand why the Founding Fathers considered centralized banks to be more dangerous than standing armies or why Nathan Rothschild said "Let me issue and control a nationâ(TM)s currency and I care not who makes its laws.â Maybe you also see how the media is not your friend; they will maintain the illusion of lively debate but always in a way that can't possibly change anything because it's completely irrelevant and doesn't address the actual problem. How many examples of that do you need to see before you start thinking that maybe it isn't an accident?

  • by Architect_sasyr (938685) on Friday December 19, 2008 @07:57PM (#26179473)
    Apart from the data-charges (which are *lethal*), the office that I have in Dubai is more highly paid for the 8 people there than the 16 (including a CEO) in the Australian office.

    Just a note, didn't really have anything to say but thought the "slave wages" was a bit of a stretch. At least for my set of foreign workers.
  • Re:Idle this shit (Score:2, Informative)

    by FugitiveMind (1423373) on Friday December 19, 2008 @07:58PM (#26179485)

    http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details/slashdot.org [alexa.com]

    I don't think their plans are working that well...

  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 19, 2008 @08:39PM (#26179847)

    He's not talking about white collar professionals...he's talking about people from the Indian subcontinent and other poor regions that are used for manual labor (e.g. construction). I lived in the region for almost a decade, and it was shameful to see the way those people were treated, as if they were subhuman. Granted they make more than they would in their home country, but their quality of life is so low, especially in contrast with the insane amount of wealth and waste there. Even worse than their standard of living was the way they were treated by the indigenous Arab people. To give you a better context, if you've seen the movie "Syriana", the way migrant workers are treated is extremely realistic.

  • by Grishnakh (216268) on Friday December 19, 2008 @09:01PM (#26180017)

    Don't be retarded. He didn't say they didn't have motivations; he said we may never know them.

    I don't really agree; I think their motivations are probably pretty simple: mainly to screw up India's economy. India and Pakistan used to be the same country, but after they gained independence, the followers of the "religion of peace" and the Hindus (who weren't too peaceful either) couldn't get along, so they split up into Islamic Pakistan, and mostly-Hindu India (a corruption of "Hindustan"). Since then, they've mainly hated each other, as seen in their frequent conflicts over Kashmir, and their nuclear arms race. But what difference have we seen between them in the last 10-20 years? India has recently had a booming economy, thanks to lots of foreign investment (such as outsourcing, as there's tons of engineers and computer professionals in India, plus lots of English(sorta)-speaking people who can man phones for call centers for much lower wages than Americans. While India's economy has been booming, what's been going on in Pakistan? Not much. While the West outsources engineering and other professional jobs to India, the only thing Pakistan gets to do is make textiles (and much of that work has probably gone to China recently).

    So, of course, the followers of the "religion of peace" aren't too happy about their rival's success, so they want to put a stop to it. Notice that they took out this attack in Mumbai (formerly Bombay), a big center of foreign investment, and many of their targets were places where rich foreigners were. If this happens again, I'd be surprised if it wasn't in Bangalore, another big center of foreign investment, where lots of engineering firms do work for western companies.

    Personally, I think I'll avoid any travel to India for a long while, and I'll be refusing to go there for any company business (we have a big department there we work with a lot). While it certainly isn't the Indians' fault they're subject to these terrorist acts, they have the misfortune of living right next to a prime state sponsor of terror. While the "religion of peace" followers certainly hate us in the USA too, it's simply a lot harder for them to get here to do anything. Plus, if they do (and they don't do it in one of the disarmed places like NYC or Chicago or DC), they're very likely to get shot by armed citizens, if not the cops. In India, the people aren't armed, and the cops are almost disarmed and have no training, as seen in these attacks where the police simply ran away.

  • Re:Easier solution (Score:2, Informative)

    by tripmine (1160123) on Friday December 19, 2008 @09:44PM (#26180347)
    But that's why these guys keep building cool stuff like this all the time. If it isn't the location, they'll MAKE IT be the location. Remember, before Disney World, south Orlando was literally a swamp.
  • by flyonthewall (584734) on Friday December 19, 2008 @09:54PM (#26180431)

    Lots of bad guys in the UAE and more specifically in Dubai. Lots of good guys too. However the area (both Dubai and Abu Dabi) is a financial centre for the bad guys. They will not do anything to jeopardize that as they know the instant they raise trouble they will lose that privilege.

    So, in the end everyone is looking at each other in the white of the eyes, restraining themselves (and just collecting Int).

    Actually quite safe for a middle eastern country as long as you do not try to stick out like a sore thumb.

  • by Grishnakh (216268) on Friday December 19, 2008 @09:56PM (#26180449)

    The terrorists in Mumbai arrived in an identified boat. They hijacked a fishing vessel, killed the crew, and kept the captain alive long enough to come into port safely without arousing suspicion. Unless UAE intends to station troops on all fishing boats that leave its ports, it would also be vulnerable to such an attack. Of course, they really don't have to worry, since the "religion of peace" followers wouldn't dare attack an Islamic country, as that would be bad PR.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 19, 2008 @10:07PM (#26180517)

    Depends on how you classify "small country". If it's by land mass, hell yes it's a small friggen country. If it's by population, again, small country. If it's by GDP per capita, then it's a big country.

  • Re:Patent Pending (Score:2, Informative)

    by majid_aldo (812530) on Friday December 19, 2008 @10:24PM (#26180619)
    Dubai has pretty much run out of oil, for your information. also, the US imports less than 15% of its oil from ALL the middle east. i hate correcting simple facts.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 19, 2008 @11:44PM (#26181147)

    I was in the Dubai Mall earlier this year months before it was finished. Slave labor and slave pay is about the best way i would explain the workers there. it was pretty bad to say the least. hundreds of workers in terrible conditions working LONG hours and getting next to nothing in pay. i felt bad for most of them.

  • by evol262 (721773) on Saturday December 20, 2008 @12:29AM (#26181397) Homepage
    Ahem [wikipedia.org]. Care to rescind that statement?
  • Honestly.... (Score:2, Informative)

    by ryzvonusef (1151717) on Saturday December 20, 2008 @12:31PM (#26184199) Journal
    WHAT THE ****? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_pakistan [wikipedia.org] Get your head out of your *** and realise this stinking fact, terrorist care for NOTHING and I mean nothing for silly things like PR. They have killed thousands in my country, heck in my own city Rawalpindi even, and they care ZILCH who their victim is, infact they are dead-sure the persons will most likely will be an innocent muslim.
  • by Grishnakh (216268) on Saturday December 20, 2008 @10:10PM (#26188063)

    You demonstrate exactly how the extremists think. They cherry pick and then they come back and say things like "how much clearer could it get?" But they and you ignore contradictions and chose the worst possible interpretation as it suits you.

    Don't be ridiculous. Contradictions? I thought this book is supposed to be the infallible word of God, without error. If it has no error, then how can there be contradictions? If there's contradictions, then obviously the religion is false.

    If it's so easy to misinterpret God's word, then God obviously screwed up. Or maybe, applying Occam's Razor, God didn't write that book to begin with.

  • by The Cydonian (603441) on Saturday December 20, 2008 @11:16PM (#26188497) Homepage Journal

    Dubai doesn't have a long history of using its secret agencies to overthrow democratically elected governments and replace them with dictators more favorable to its interests, so I strongly doubt they're going to have problems with "terrorists" like Western nations have had.

    Which is why, say, Muslim-ruled Saudi Arabia hasn't had any terrorist attacks [wikipedia.org]. There have been no attacks on foreign workers [wikipedia.org], nor on resident families [wikipedia.org].

    I doubt we'll ever know the true motivations of the scumbags who committed mass murder in India recently

    You can accuse the perperators of many things, but a lack of clarity in their message isn't one of them [indianexpress.com]:

    LeT head Hafiz Saeed said at a rally in Karachi in 2000: "There canâ(TM)t be any peace while India remains intact. Cut them, cut them â" cut them so much that they kneel before you and ask for mercy."

    That "they" (and I mean the greater "non-state" nexus using Islam as an excuse) hate _India_ and want to "liberate" previously Muslim-ruled states isn't conjecture anymore; it was amply clear, and indeed, was the stated goal of the so-called Deccan Mujahideen, who purportedly carried out the attacks. That Muslim mohallas across South Asia have become drastically radicalized is also not a matter of conjecture anymore; there are Islamicist "sleeper cells" even in otherwise idyllic, Muslim-majority Maldives. One of the most peaceful places in the world, the mostly uninhabited Lakshadweep archipalego which until recently had a mere 100 police constables, now needs augmented anti-terrorism monitoring stations. It's all very scary for all peace-loving, broad-minded citizens; I think the sheer fact is that governments across the region, both in Muslim-majority nations and otherwise, simply don't know what to do with it all. All our armies are trained to fight each other, not this.

    I'll also say this:- I'm very very cynical about all this, but I do think we're past a certain tipping-point now, and the world in general, is on course for a collision of sorts. I don't see _any way_ in which things are tapering down at all; if anything, in this hyper-connected world where local crime-beat news makes international headlines, things tend to have a bigger impact than before. All news is global, all causes inter-linked; governments and societies simply don't know how to deal with all this.

    see the recent article about how cartography can get you terrorism charges in India

    Heightened times, people _are_ scared especially in the western border regions, but they were fully cleared [thaindian.com] by the Ministry of Defence beforehand. The local police has already given them a clean chit, although the state's Anti-Terrorism Squad is proceeding cautiously.

    I'm actually more bothered about the Public interest litigation in Bombay High Court against Google maps. Citizens not connected with the executive have decided for themselves that Google maps needs to be censored. That is a worrying development; while the state can and will always try to increase regulation, in a democratic society, informed citizenry can and will fight back. It'll be a scary day when citizenry themselves start falling for the crap.

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