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Massive Martian Glaciers Found 314

Kozar_The_Malignant writes "Scientific American is reporting that 'data from the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter point to vast glaciers buried beneath thin layers of crustal debris.' Data from the surface-penetrating radar on MRO revealed that two well-known mid-latitude features are composed of solid water ice. One is about three times the size of the City of Los Angeles. This certainly makes the idea of establishing a station on Mars far more plausible."
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Massive Martian Glaciers Found

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  • by MichaelSmith ( 789609 ) on Thursday November 20, 2008 @11:02PM (#25841331) Homepage Journal

    And it's about time. Now we just need to get some "volunteers" to get on a spaceship...

    Me first!

  • Recall... (Score:2, Funny)

    by zazenation ( 1060442 ) on Thursday November 20, 2008 @11:02PM (#25841333)

    Get your ass to Mars...
    Get your ass to Mars...
    Get your ass to Mars...

  • by symbolset ( 646467 ) on Thursday November 20, 2008 @11:08PM (#25841379) Journal

    Valentine Michael Smith?

    Weren't you born there?

  • by sjs132 ( 631745 ) on Thursday November 20, 2008 @11:12PM (#25841395) Homepage Journal

    All Right! Lets land a colony and start a casino! Hopefully we don't find anyone living under the Ice already! Of Course if we do, we'll invite them in on an all you can eat Sunday Buffet... As long as it isn't all the HUMANS YOU CAN EAT! :)

  • by MightyYar ( 622222 ) on Thursday November 20, 2008 @11:22PM (#25841479)

    LoCs are data size. CoLAs are a measure of land area.

    Everyone knows that - it's taught to kids before they are even 30 shark nipples high.

  • by jd ( 1658 ) <(imipak) (at) (yahoo.com)> on Thursday November 20, 2008 @11:28PM (#25841511) Homepage Journal
    I've a better idea. Let's swap one of the glaciers for LA, and then open the casino on top of the Martian ice. It'll be closer, there's less risk of being considered edible delicacies and it'll solve most of the environmental problems in one go.
  • by Dystopian Rebel ( 714995 ) * on Thursday November 20, 2008 @11:33PM (#25841543) Journal

    Meanwhile, sometime in the future:

    "Owners of the Martian Pirate Bay today mocked a letter from Earth lawyers. 'Ooh, you scare us like the quidlap-iko after sunfall. We have news for you, your laws don't apply here. So stuff it up your ozone hole!'"

  • Oh... (Score:4, Funny)

    by baKanale ( 830108 ) on Thursday November 20, 2008 @11:41PM (#25841589)

    ...so that's where they [wikipedia.org] went? To mars?

  • hey (Score:5, Funny)

    by circletimessquare ( 444983 ) <circletimessquar ... .com minus berry> on Thursday November 20, 2008 @11:43PM (#25841591) Homepage Journal

    we can put mammoths there

  • by gaderael ( 1081429 ) <gaderael AT gmail DOT com> on Thursday November 20, 2008 @11:51PM (#25841631)
    We'll finally have conclusive proof that Spiders [wikipedia.org] originated from Mars.
  • by bbroerman ( 715822 ) on Thursday November 20, 2008 @11:57PM (#25841677) Homepage
    All we need now is an ancient reactor to melt the ice and produce a dense atmosphere...

    Seriously, though, that movie did suck...
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 20, 2008 @11:57PM (#25841683)

    Seriously, the first people to go to Mars would almost have to have a deathwish to do so.

    So maybe we can send enough materials for 6 months of life for 4 people. Then send 8 criminals and make a reality show out of it. See who survives and how and use that data for future missions. Or send equipment for 4 people to be able to sustain themselves indefinitely and send 8 people.

  • by bill_mcgonigle ( 4333 ) * on Friday November 21, 2008 @12:00AM (#25841709) Homepage Journal

    Since we're on the subject of Total Recall, and I the only one who noticed that Indiana Jones IV completely ripped their ending off Total Recall?

    The better question is why haven't you had a memory block installed for IJ4 like the rest of us?

  • by usul294 ( 1163169 ) on Friday November 21, 2008 @12:18AM (#25841855)
    Send the most useless third of the population first, but make sure to keep at least one telephone sanitizer back here at home.
  • by sjs132 ( 631745 ) on Friday November 21, 2008 @12:23AM (#25841875) Homepage Journal
    I used to read Slashdot and try to post seriously. For some reason, readership intelligence has dropped, so I'm forced to pander with comments like the above. I may have over reached for the funny, but I was stretching it for the people that didn't understand. Someday I may have all my comments archived into one volume and the collective works could be a best seller. But in the mean time, I'll just keep working for "Big Al" breaking kneecaps for a living. Oh, I'm sorry, I digressed... What was your complaint about?
  • Go figure. (Score:2, Funny)

    by Ranzear ( 1082021 ) on Friday November 21, 2008 @12:30AM (#25841915)
    Gee, who would figure a massive surface object on Mars would be hidden under and obscured from study by... dust?

    Now let's find that giant face, maybe the Raelians were right after all...
  • by TapeCutter ( 624760 ) on Friday November 21, 2008 @12:50AM (#25842011) Journal
    "Send the most useless third of the population first"

    And shut down slashdot? - Never!!!
  • by Star Particle ( 1409451 ) on Friday November 21, 2008 @01:02AM (#25842069)
    It's a God awful small affair
    But it's needed to breathe the air
    The scientists all wanted to go
    But the big wigs kept yelling "No!"
    And while the journey did last a year
    The cosmic rays could be quite severe
    And while the trip was a sadd'ning bore
    Going to Mars is no easy chore

    Spaaaaaaace men
    Fighting in their rocket
    Oh man!
    Look at those Martians go
    It's the freakiest show
    Is there life on Maaaaaaaaaaaaaars?
  • by egr ( 932620 ) on Friday November 21, 2008 @01:25AM (#25842181) Journal
    if you make spaceship look like a basement some wouldn't even notice that they were going to Mars
  • bad news (Score:2, Funny)

    by Random Destruction ( 866027 ) on Friday November 21, 2008 @02:07AM (#25842403)
    $ ping www.google.ca
    PING www.l.google.com (209.85.171.103) 56(84) bytes of data.
    64 bytes from cg-in-f103.google.com (209.85.171.103): icmp_seq=1 ttl=242 time=1282654 ms
    64 bytes from cg-in-f103.google.com (209.85.171.103): icmp_seq=6 ttl=242 time=1589264 ms
  • by tzjanii ( 1170411 ) on Friday November 21, 2008 @02:25AM (#25842501)
    Well that shouldn't be a problem, just create some sort of low-cost clone to do the grunt work on the off-world colonies... something that we can just pump out thousands of, replicate them somehow?
  • by serutan ( 259622 ) <snoopdoug AT geekazon DOT com> on Friday November 21, 2008 @02:25AM (#25842503) Homepage

    Getting to that ice will require a team of hard-drinking, undisciplined misfits and renegades who know a lot about drilling and can learn all the space travel crap on the side.

  • by dakameleon ( 1126377 ) on Friday November 21, 2008 @02:28AM (#25842511)

    Pluses for no hostile natives, though.

    ... that we know of.

  • by MichaelSmith ( 789609 ) on Friday November 21, 2008 @03:02AM (#25842647) Homepage Journal
    Having been here since 1965 I now want to go back.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 21, 2008 @03:02AM (#25842655)

    > Everyone knows that - it's taught to kids before they are even 30 shark nipples high.

    Bah, why aren't you using metric!? Those kids are only 23.8 laser shark nipples high.

  • by Tubal-Cain ( 1289912 ) * on Friday November 21, 2008 @03:55AM (#25842843) Journal
    Sure they would. Latency would go through the roof.
  • by aliquis ( 678370 ) on Friday November 21, 2008 @06:12AM (#25843375)

    What are these things you call friends and human society? Once family usually die away from you unless you reproduce so no issues there either.

    Give me someone to play games with and a collection of fleshlights and lube and I'm all set.

  • by RustinHWright ( 1304191 ) on Friday November 21, 2008 @06:43AM (#25843487) Homepage Journal

    Sounds about right considering that the "volunteers" will most likely be prisoners that will be drugged into submissive conformity.

    Citation needed.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 21, 2008 @06:53AM (#25843531)

    I hear Mammoths [slashdot.org] are pretty cheap, though the space ship might need to be a bit big. And kept cold. And you might have to clone cave men as a food source.

  • by taff^2 ( 188189 ) on Friday November 21, 2008 @08:11AM (#25843873)

    I can't forget. Try as I might I can't get the image of Indy being raped by Stephen Speilberg and George Lucas out of my mind.

  • Re:Nitrogen (Score:2, Funny)

    by Turnpike Lad ( 1006707 ) on Friday November 21, 2008 @08:15AM (#25843889)
    Mars's atmosphere is about 1/1000 the density of earth's. I think we should just dig a big hole about 1/1000 the area of Mars's surface (about the size of Iowa), many miles deep, and let the atmosphere collect there. Then we'd have a region with the pressure of Earth, and due to its much smaller area it would be easier to bring in the right amount of various gases to create a breathable atmosphere.
  • by Alarindris ( 1253418 ) on Friday November 21, 2008 @08:17AM (#25843905)

    In Kim Stanley Robinson's novel of Mars colonization Red Mars , the author suggests that any colonists would have to be somewhat eccentric.

    Check. I break up quotes and respond to separate parts of a post.

    That's not because of the dangers they will face, but because they are leaving behind friends, family and the general wider human society for the rest of their lives.

    Check. Give me a connection to play WoW and were rolling.

    Where do I sign?

  • by freedom_india ( 780002 ) on Friday November 21, 2008 @08:33AM (#25843981) Homepage Journal

    No you dumbass. That's how scientists think. Here's how we will *actually* there:
    Let's go over it one more time shall we?
    1) Chinese space probe to mars discovers enormous deposits of Gold/Pure Gasoline/or some valuable shit
    2) Chinese probe hacked by NSA, findings sent to Obama/Palin who decide to act on it.
    3) NASA budget quadrupled, Congress told there would be riots in cities if Godless Chinese were to conquer the Final Frontier.
    3.a Father jonathan, O'reilly and Rove talk about "bringing the rich to the People of the Free World and Defending Mars against enemies of Freedom."
    4) Congress passes a law authorising use of necessary means to "Bring the Riches of Free Planet Mars to democratic nations of the World."
    5) Senate vetoes the proposal stating that it lacks medical insurance for mine workers and their children.
    6) Congress appropriates $152 billion to pay for Miners Medical Guarantee Plan.
    7) Senate passes the law with 3:1 vote majority. McCain abstains stating it doesn't contain enough protection for PoWs. Ron Paul votes against it, stating "Until the Fed is abolished, real Gold Standard cannot be established even with HUGE martian reserves."
    8) President signs the law.

    9) NASA hires 31,000 new contractors on open bidding. KBR cries foul.
    10) KBR is guaranteed an exclusive-yet-non-binding contract to supply food and refreshments to all passengers to Mars.
    11) NASA completes a massive extension to the Space Station at a cost of $1.2 Billion. Station now contains $800 toilet seats and $450 Hamburgers supplied by KBR.
    12) NASA shortlists 12 astronauts: 9 Men with EVA hours of 500 min. 3 Women with EVA hours of 400 min.
    13) The Gay & lesbian Association Against Defamation files a suit in SCOTUS against NASA alleging discrimination against Gays To Mars
    14) Citizens of NYC and SF hold candle-light vigils in Support of GaysToMars. O'reilly darkly hints against subversion of Space.
    15) A riot breaks out in NYC between Cops, Gays and Neocons resulting in 20 dead (all gays), 13 injured (cops) and 56 arrested (neocons).
    16) NYC mayor bans further such demonstrations for 90 days, is promptly sued by ACLU & EFF. Ban upheld by NY Supreme Court. ACLU appeals and the appeal is upheld. Ban revoked. NYC police commissioner resigns.
    17) NASA trains 12 astronauts: 3 Men, 6 women(!), and 3 Gay/lesbian combo. ACLU sues citing discrimination against men(!). Case dismissed with costs.
    18) Russia launches 5 HUGE rockets from Baikonaur. The rockets discharge their payload on moon. One destructs.
    19) Russia launches 6 HUGE rockets again to moon. The rockets cargo is Von Neumann machines that assemble a self-sustaining life station to be launched with Ion engines to Mars.
    20) Russian president resigns after it was found he was secretly aiding China(!) China vehemently denies. Russia vehemently denies. NSA defector states NSA engineered it.
    21) Space station launches a triple stage rocket built by Northrop Grumman, GD and GE. The launch is a success. Unfortunately the 10 of 15 electronic toilets fail due to the shock. Apparently some unknown indian software company had written the software for the same. The president issues a Presidential order excluding non-US companies from building spaceships for US.
    22) Mid journey to Mars, a sex tape involving the 3 lesbians and 3 straight men is leaked. The Gay community is dismayed and outcasts the lesbians. Congress hauls NASA commissioner over coals. GAO inquiry finds KBR had overbilled NASA by $350 billion. the GAO report is re-classified and GAO denied funds for subsequent investigation.
    23) Spaceship arrives at Mars. Protest Rallies and Victory Rallies clash in SF and NYC killing atleast 300 people in riots. Fox covers it truthfully.
    24) First American on Mars lands to find the martian soil green with moss.
    25) A Huge Terminator rolls into camera, greets the man in Russian and waits for response.
    26) The american responds in English, whereupon he is vaporized instantly by the Terminator which

  • by Ren Hoak ( 1217024 ) on Friday November 21, 2008 @08:42AM (#25844027)
    If "IJ" means Indiana Jones, as I think it does, this whole argument is flawed as there have only been three Indiana Jones movies. The original Raiders of the Lost Ark, Temple of Doom, and Last Crusade.

    IJ4? Sheesh. Like that'll ever happen.
  • by pla ( 258480 ) on Friday November 21, 2008 @09:20AM (#25844351) Journal
    LoCs are data size. CoLAs are a measure of land area.

    Sorry, I just can't take and study seriously if it doesn't measure land in "size of Rhode Island"s.
  • by DaFallus ( 805248 ) on Friday November 21, 2008 @10:45AM (#25845349)

    Pluses for no hostile natives, though.

    ... that we know of.

    Nah, they left after they traded the entire planet to us for one lousy bead.

  • by Bloke down the pub ( 861787 ) on Friday November 21, 2008 @11:23AM (#25845895)
    He's probably been reading the history of Australia.

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