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Couch Potato Gene Identified In Fruit Flies 105

Pickens writes "University of Pennsylvania biologists have discovered a mutation in fruit flies aptly named the 'couch potato' gene that allows them to simply chill out — entering a mild state of quasi-hibernation known as diapause, when winter arrives. 'It's not like they're bears sleeping in a cave,' says Paul Schmidt. 'They just look like they're a little bit more sluggish.' The couch potato gene, first discovered in the early 1990s, got its nickname because flies with mutations in the gene became really sluggish and behaved abnormally. Little is known about the underlying evolutionary genetic architecture, but in diapause, the slacking off is far less severe. The flies' bodily functions slow down, and they are better able to tolerate stress. The fruit fly gene may have implications for human health, as it can help biologists study the function of the nervous system and diseases such as epilepsy, refuting a recent statement by a political candidate that fruit fly research has 'little or nothing to do with the public good.'"
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  • by unassimilatible ( 225662 ) on Saturday October 25, 2008 @03:27PM (#25511205) Journal
    refuting a recent statement by a political candidate that fruit fly research has 'little or nothing to do with the public good.'

    It might be fashionable to make fun of Palin on Slashdot, where people pretend to be constitutional purists and libertarians. But this type of thinking, "don't cut my program" is why America is $10T in debt, not counting the 79 million baby boomers about to retire and demand their Social Security and Medicare.

    The question isn't whether government programs are well intentioned or often lead to good results (although maybe more often lead to bad results [wikipedia.org]). The question is, can we afford every Utopian goal? Every time an executive, state or federal, tries to "cut" the budget (more likely, slightly reduce the increase in the budget), we invariably hear cries of "but the children," "the homeless will freeze to death!" or "but medical research funding!" Not one single recipient of government funding ever says, "yeah, we'll take on for the team." It's always a good idea to fund programs, and not one of them can ever be cut back or cut altogether, even though few if any of them are mentioned in the Constitution and our country got along fine without them for 150 years. Even the slightest paring back of government programs and living within our means would lead to an apocalyptic unraveling of the social fabric of the country.

    Just tell your grandkids, as you exhale yur last breaths on your deathbed, who paying all of this off with exorbitant tax rates, "I did it for you."
  • by Kligat ( 1244968 ) on Saturday October 25, 2008 @03:34PM (#25511263)
    I think it's more that they dumb down studies to a sentence that makes them sound like tax payers are paying for scientists to play with bug collections, for the benefit of riling up Joe Sixpack, and generally creating a feeling of anti-science instead of anti-wastefulness. When I hear "Joe Sixpack," I think of it as an insult and picture Cletus [wikipedia.org] from The Simpsons.
  • by Abcd1234 ( 188840 ) on Saturday October 25, 2008 @03:37PM (#25511285) Homepage

    But this type of thinking, "don't cut my program" is why America is $10T in debt

    Uhh... no. America is $10T in debt because:

    a) People demand their programs stay, while simultaneously refusing tax hikes to actually pay for them.
    b) Prosecuting a war the country can't afford, then *cutting taxes* in the meantime.
    c) Allowing the financial industry to run off a cliff, forcing the government to take action to prevent a complete economic meltdown.

    Is pork a problem? Yup. But as Obama has pointed out *many* times, earmarks, where much of this pork comes from, account for a truly *miniscule* sum compared to the broader budget, which is dominated by military expenditures and various entitlement programs. Unfortunately, Americans are, apparently, unwilling to actually *pay* for those military expenditures and entitlement programs, and so you get mind-bogglingly large debt.

    Incidentally, on a side note, here in my country, Canada, we have universal healthcare, universal education, university tuition that's actually affordable, old age security benefits, and a welfare system. And we're running a *surplus*. Just a little food for thought.

  • by guidryp ( 702488 ) on Saturday October 25, 2008 @04:00PM (#25511445)

    "It might be fashionable to make fun of Palin on Slashdot, where people pretend to be constitutional purists and libertarians. But this type of thinking, "don't cut my program" is why America is $10T in debt, not counting the 79 million baby boomers about to retire and demand their Social Security and Medicare."

    When Bush took over the debt was 5 Trillion and was shrinking under budget surpluses.

    Large unsustainable tax cuts with a trillion dollar war of choice are the main culprits in the current 10 Trillion Debt level. Your grand children will suffer mainly from the Bush legacy. Not fruit file research.

  • by fuzzyfuzzyfungus ( 1223518 ) on Saturday October 25, 2008 @04:01PM (#25511451) Journal
    My displeasure with Palin in this case(like my displeasure with McCain in the "3 million dollar overhead projector" case) is not about spending policy, it is about disingenuous rhetoric.

    I may or may not agree, depending on the instance; but I fully support people debating the merits of various projects, either in the broad sense of "what are the principles that guide what we do and do not pay for and how?" or in the narrow "is this particular project worth it or not?" sense. What I find objectionable, though, is people batting at strawmen rather than doing that.

    In this case, the "Fruit fly research in Paris, France", as best I can tell, appears to have been Rep. Mike Thompson, D-California's $742,764 for research on the olive fruit fly. As it happens, that fly is a rather pernicious invasive species [ucdavis.edu] in California, where it has been spreading through the olive crop for the last decade or so. Personally, I'm of the opinion that large scale pest management, like national defence or law enforcement, is something that is very imperfectly, at best, handled by the private sector(if you are trying to wipe out an invasive species, a single farmer who attempts to free ride can serve as a harbor, etc. The feds have also achieved some notable successes in the area, particularly the Screwworm eradication starting in the 50s) That said, I'm totally open to disagreement with that, or the assertion that it should be handled through the department of agriculture rather than an earmark, or whatever. What annoys me is that, rather than an actual position on spending, we just got a soundbite and a snicker.

    That is what annoys me. I agree that we spend too much, and we do a very poor job of examining our spending; but that is part of why exercises like this one annoy me. Soundbite sniping might be a good way to kill a particular program, especially if it has an amusing name, or involves something that you can get a knee jerk reaction to; but it is corrosive to any kind of national dialogue about spending. If we plan to reign in spending, we need leaders who will stand up and support reasons that underlie spending decisions, rather than working according to ad-hoc emotional appeals.
  • by MindlessAutomata ( 1282944 ) on Saturday October 25, 2008 @04:17PM (#25511559)

    I'm not sure why your complaints are directed at libertarians (or liberals/phony libertarians? Your signature is confusing me!) All the libertarians--ALL OF THEM--scoff at the excuses you gave. Some libertarians are unfortunately the Social Darwinist type, as well, and think the homeless should "just get jobs" and don't understand the roots of homelessness. Many libertarians I know are also a bit dogmatic on issues such as free will and don't want to admit that people are machines and simply put some people just don't function as well as others and may need psychological help to fix whatever is contributing to their homelessness.

    Not all libertarians are like that--libertarianism is, at its core, a political philosophy, like socialism or anarchism or similar, and generally it's rather consistent although I think many libertarians are rather dogmatic, almost utopian (although they are not true utopians and don't think of themselves as utopian) in nature towards how things will turn out. Quite strange, as they are often bent on economics and talk about (rightly, I feel) subjective value and things are often a system of tradeoffs.

    All ideology aside, fruit fly research, like most scientific research, is valuable no matter where the funding comes from. No, I'm not making any argument on where it should come from, or that the ends justify the means. But many people do not have a great understanding of science, particularly evolution and comparative biology, and want these programs cut because their intuition tells them search on cow farts or fruit flies is useless and provides little help to humans. Not that there isn't useless research, but you often have to understand the field on some level to understand why the research is important and its implications.

    This leads me back to Americans and science. Americans don't understand science. Just ask Joe Schmoe to explain evolution, you'll get a lot of stuttering and probably some mixed-up talk of fish growing legs or something. Which is quite sad, because all they really need is the basics of natural selection and individual variation to explain how evolution works. The fact that people don't understand evolution is exactly why things like fruit fly research is mocked, by the way--they don't understand that despite being vastly different creatures, there are often many things that can be extrapolated from vastly different species to humans or other creatures, despite hearing stories about fish being genetically engineered to glow in the dark from firefly genes, or such!

    The true libertarians, not the Bill Maher type or the "South Park" type, are against all government funding based on the belief that democracy is inherently immoral and unjustified and, from that, taxes are generally tantamount to stealing, because libertarianism is based NOT on "the greater good" but on the individual being the base unit of morality and that no amount of social consensus justifies infringing on the individual's right to autonomy; they generally reject the utilitarian arguments (although, in my experience, tend to employ them when they feel the arguments are in their favor and tend to deny the existence of any downsides of a libertarian system) in favor of "natural rights" either in its original sense or as a personal/ethical/political code. Libertarianism does not mean "generally Republican on economic issues, generally liberal on social issues" although the term is starting to evolve more into that direction and judging by Bob Barr's Libertarian nomination, it appears the Libertarian Party has gone that route as well.

  • by whereiswaldo ( 459052 ) on Saturday October 25, 2008 @05:21PM (#25511989) Journal

    Great... so the U.S. will soon become another Canada - universal free everything, and good at nothing.

    If you take your finger out of your ass and use it to pick up a book you might learn about all the things Canada is good at. Ignorance is curable, after all.

  • by atomic brainslide ( 87546 ) on Saturday October 25, 2008 @05:54PM (#25512249) Homepage
    pragmatically speaking, your government is going to tax your ass whether you like it or not (for the foreseeable future). this means they already have your hard earned cash to do with as they please. you can now look at the situation in one of two ways.

    1. the government spends about 60-70% of all that money paying for a "defense" budget, wallstreet bailouts, and interest on the debt it has accumulated.

    2. the government cuts "defense" funding to 30% and puts the same cash to work in programs that put better food on your table, give you better medicines, better roads, parks, clean air and water, more free time to enjoy your life, better and cheaper education, and a more beautiful city or town in which you live.

    the way i read your response is that you'd rather see the government spend money on "defense" (using the term very lightly), killing people in other nations, spying on you and your family, and creating illegal prison camps for "terrorists". whereas people like myself would rather see the government use the money that it "stole" from me in a way that actually improves my quality of life and doesn't infringe on my rights and freedoms.

    hell of a country, the USA.

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