Mayor Orders Mandatory Evacuation of New Orleans 712
Pickens writes "City officials ordered everyone to leave New Orleans beginning Sunday morning — the first mandatory evacuation since Hurricane Katrina flooded the city three years ago — as Hurricane Gustav grew into what the city's mayor called 'the storm of the century' and moved toward the Louisiana coast. 'This is the real deal. This is not a test. For everyone thinking they can ride this storm out, I have news for you: that will be one of the biggest mistakes you can make in your life,' said New Orleans mayor, C. Ray Nagin. Already, hundreds of thousands of residents had begun streaming north from New Orleans and other Gulf Coast areas stretching from the Florida Panhandle to Houston. Bush administration officials took pains not to be caught as flatfooted as they were in Hurricane Katrina, announcing that President Bush had called governors in the region to assure them of assistance and that top federal emergency officials were in the region to guide the response. 'We could see flooding that is worse than what we saw with Katrina,' said Louisiana Governor Jindal."
The US Geological Survey will be running a real-time "Map of Hydrologic Impacts" to monitor flood levels, and the National Weather Service has charted direction and wind-speed probabilities. Reader technix4beos points out the need for IRC transcription of FEMA and NOAA feeds.
Re:News for nerds huh? (Score:3, Informative)
The Shock Doctrine (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Is this allowed in the US? (Score:5, Informative)
It's a bit of a misnomer. They can't and don't force you to leave. They sweep the area and strongly suggest you leave, but they won't make you. In Florida at one time they (Charlie) had you list your next of kin so they knew who to contact.
It basically means that if you decide yo stay, you are on your own.
Real-time Transcriptions... (Score:4, Informative)
We do have a pressing need for personnel who can type fast, have a good ear for "American" dialect, and is willing to spend several hours transposing into IRC.
Please head to the linked wiki (either wiki.interdictr.com [interdictr.com] or gustavwiki.com [gustavwiki.com] ), or directly to the irc.freenode.net and join #interdictor
Cheers, see you there.
Re:Fuck it (Score:1, Informative)
Ah, you must be a Republican. How charming.
Right--because it's the republicans who are racist.
...and guess what. All democrats. Learn your history. Stop being a drone.
Hmm...who blocked the schoolhouse steps and had to be removed by the national guard....democrat.
Who opposed the 1964 Civil Rights act? Hmm--that would be Sam Ervin, Albert Gore Sr. and Robert Byrd. Senator Byrd was a former member of the KKK.
Re:mandatory evacuation (Score:3, Informative)
You can stay and they won't force you to leave.
They won't help you either. You're on your own.
Re:what the hell? (Score:5, Informative)
America isn't going to function without a port at New Orleans. Incredible amounts of produce from the breadbasket of the country flow through that port. You can't run that port without a city to support it. New Orleans is important to the economy of the entire country.
Re:what the hell? (Score:2, Informative)
There are many astonishing things about that statement. This is one of them:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/09/20020917-7.html [whitehouse.gov]
Re:Fuck it (Score:5, Informative)
...and guess what. All democrats. Learn your history. Stop being a drone.
Apparently you think history stopped in 1964. Maybe you should pay attention to what happened since then: pretty much all the Democrats who opposed integration and civil rights legislation had become Republicans by the end of the 1960s. One of the very few exceptions was, yes, Robert Byrd, who has over and over recanted his racist views, apologized for the evil he did, and worked hard for racial equality. For decades now, the KKK crowd has been the property of the Republican Party.
Re:Where is "safe"? (Score:5, Informative)
Where in the world *isn't* there a natural disaster waiting to happen
Some parts of northern Europe, at least. It's actually a bit boring.
(Every now and then there's a storm that brings down a few trees. We do call those "disasters")
Re:what the hell? (Score:4, Informative)
North Shore (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Sigh (Score:3, Informative)
However, in the Netherlands they suffered their Katrina moment in the 1953 when a series of storms killed 1,800-plus people, forcing the Dutch government to go on an enormously expensive program (Deltaworks) building numerous water barriers to prevent that type of flooding--a program that took 30 years to complete.
People in New Orleans (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Sigh (Score:4, Informative)
Because the last time a hurricane hit the Netherladns was... uhh... never?
The Netherlands doesn't get hurricanes, but it has a long history of disastrous storms [wikipedia.org], the last one being the 1953 flood [wikipedia.org] (over 1800 casualties, about the same as Katrina).
The solution for New Orleans is not to give up on living there but to fix the damn levies. Surely it can't be that hard for the richest country on Earth.
Re:underwater vs. earthquakes (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Fuck it (Score:3, Informative)
And immediately right after LBJ (Democrat) worked with Martin Luther King, Jr. in 1963 he told his advisors that he signed the South to Republicans. Ever since, the South has been voting Republican. So yes, they are still racist.
You have a few facts messed up:
You're telling me that the South suddenly switched from voting Democrat to Republican. It appears (at least to me) that you are trying to link the switch to racism--i.e. that the Republicans were all for slavery, oppressing blacks, etc... and that's why the south started voting for them.
The problem with that is that when it came to a vote, 40% of the House Democrats voted against the Civil Rights Act, compared with the 80% of Republicans that supported it. Support from Republicans in the Senate was even higher.Republican support in the Senate was even higher.
So you're telling me that after that vote, the south switched to voting republican?
Or maybe you are talking about the Voting Rights Act of 1965. Oops--probably not. Republican support was 82% in the house and 94% in the senate.
Let's not forget a quote from LBJ (democrat): "These Negroes, they're getting pretty uppity these days and that's a problem for us since they've got something now they never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness. Now we've got to do something about this, we've got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference. For if we don't move at all, then their allies will line up against us and there'll be no way of stopping them, we'll lose the filibuster and there'll be no way of putting a brake on all sorts of wild legislation. It'll be Reconstruction all over again."
Sounds like another racist Democrat.
Digging around my research notes, I came across this gem--which I'm sorry I failed to write down the attribution: "Little known by many today is the fact that it was Republican Senator Everett Dirksen from Illinois, not Democrat President Lyndon Johnson, who pushed through the civil rights laws of the 1960â(TM)s. In fact, Dirksen was key to the passage of civil rights legislation in 1957, 1960, 1964, 1965 and 1968. Dirksen wrote the language for the 1965 Voting Rights Act. Dirksen also crafted the language for the Civil Rights Act of 1968 which prohibited discrimination in housing."
So once again, which party is the 'racist' party? Even your own examples don't stand up to research and history...
Re:Fuck it (Score:1, Informative)
Re:Fuck it (Score:5, Informative)
Care to cite the links between the KKK and the Republican party. Apparently I'm uneducated since I failed to find any.
Don't try to pretend I said something I didn't. I said "the KKK crowd" rather than just "the KKK" quite deliberately; there aren't really any links between any political party and the KKK itself any more, because except for a few die-hards the KKK as an organization has been pretty much defunct for decades -- thanks in large part to the efforts of Democratic Presidents Kennedy and Johnson, and Democratic Attorneys General Kennedy, Katzenbach, and Clark. By "the KKK crowd" I mean, of course, the sorts of people who would be Klansmen if it were still socially acceptable ... including, again, almost all the ex-Dixiecrats except Byrd, who nearly alone among his contemporaries had the guts not only to admit that he was wrong, but also work to do something about it. Meanwhile, Thurmond's and Helms' spiritual heirs go Republican in overwhelming numbers.
Re:what the hell? (Score:5, Informative)
When Rainer goes, and when it likely blows apart Redmond and Tacoma, it'll be like a nuclear device went off, look at Mount St Helens to see the effects. A Hurricane, even Cat 5s, don't cause that kind of damage.
24 megatons thermal energy (7 by blast, rest through release of heat) in seconds, a Cyclone releases 10 megatons of thermal energy every 20 minutes, on average. 300 mph blasts...
Pyroclastic Flows - At least 1,300 ÂF, what does a hurricane have to compare to that?
When Rainer goes off, the damage it could do will be more than all of the hurricanes that hit a major metropolitan area like NO.
Re:what the hell? (Score:1, Informative)
The ground is 50 feet above sea level only about 45 minutes from the center of NO.
That's not much worse than the average commute to NYC.
Re:what the hell? (Score:4, Informative)
"Reading her bio, I wonder if she's ever met a black person."
Well since she is in Alaska and Alaska is over 15% American Indian/Alaska Native, and her husband is half Eskimo-Aleut, I'm sure she knows "people of color" since that is what you are alluding to in your comment. As for "blacks" she's meet Sec State Rice, over 12% of Fairbanks ethnicity is "black" and the Anchorage boasts more languages spoken in the school system than New York City, so I am really confident she knows about other races.
Re:Fuck it (Score:2, Informative)
It's odd how 2 minutes research reveals the truth.
"He ran a gas station down in St. Louis No, Mahatma Gandhi was a great leader of the 20th century."
-Senator Hillary Clinton
Re:what the hell? (Score:3, Informative)
WTF? Everything in the Lower 9th Ward is brand new anyway, whether there's money or not, because everything there was destroyed by Katrina! It would have to be, or there'd be nothing there at all.