How To See In Four Dimensions 227
An anonymous reader writes "Think it's impossible to see four-dimensional objects? These videos will show you otherwise. Some mathematicians work with four-dimensional objects all the time, and they've developed some clever tricks to get a feeling for what they're like. The techniques begin by imagining how two-dimensional creatures, like those in Edwin Abbot's 'Flatland,' could get a feeling for three-dimensional objects. When those techniques are transferred up a dimension, the results are gorgeous."
Re:Carl Sagan (Score:5, Informative)
Here you go. It was Cosmo's take on "flatland":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIadtFJYWhw [youtube.com]
Re:Carl Sagan (Score:3, Informative)
Indeed it was...
You can watch them (except part 5) on Guba [guba.com] (change query to find the rest)
I think it was part 8 specifically. I got the DVD but its been awhile since I wandered through it... But its fairly brief, everything on the difference between 2, 3 and 4 Dimensions is basically described as it was here, and just as brief.
However, its still a good way to spend 13 hours because of everything else he covered in that series.
Re:did this years ago... (Score:3, Informative)
Undoing the slasdhot effect (Score:4, Informative)
To download any of the videos directly, go here:
http://www.sciencenews.org/pictures/mathtrek/082208/ [sciencenews.org]
Alicia Boole Stott Got There First (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Easy to see in four dimensions (Score:5, Informative)
I find that the animations in the article are not at all four dimensional
Duh. That's because our screens are two dimensional, and you and I are three dimensional. Certainly you can't fault them for this? (Please tell me that I'm somehow misunderstanding this objection..)
In other words, the method that they have used does not actually visualize a fourth dimension in any mathematical or logical sense
That's nonsense. Their videos show the edges of the object (although distorted) as well as the interconnections of each of the vertices. What would qualify to you as a "real" mathematical or logical way of viewing these objects in a 3-D world?
As for your previous post:
So, the easiest way to visualize a four dimensional cube is to simply imagine multiple identical cubes, side by side, for as many as the range has been specified. Five dimensions is a flat square arrangement, six is a cube arranged array of cubes, and so on. This way, an infinite number of dimensions can be visualized. Perhaps the term "mental addressing" is more appropriate a name for this mental method.
Okay, when you get down to it, this is stuff that any programmer knows when working with arrays. (ie- int[][][][][], etc.) Now your task is to *draw* your example for us in 3-D space.
Why parent is not insightful (Score:5, Informative)
Your retinas are, even together, a 2 dimensional array. You never "saw" anything but what your brain constructed from 2 dimensional arrays. Turns out your brain is very, very good at visualizing a 3d object based on this input. Would you say you can't visualize an actor's physical body because the screen is 2 dimensional?
Torrents! (Score:3, Informative)
If you click through the sciencenews.org article, you can get to the actual website of the people who made these videos. From there you'll find that these videos are Creative Commons licensed, and available for download [dimensions-math.org] as high res MOVs. I tried the torrents, but they all stalled, so I just used wget to grab them from the US mirror [povray.org].
Re:Tagit (Score:5, Informative)
http://bittornado.com/torrents/Dimensions-English.torrent [bittornado.com]
BitTorrent download for all the (English) movie files on the source website.
Re:Try Salvia (Score:4, Informative)
YES THERE ARE ACCOUNTS OF PEOPLE NOT MAKING IT BACK. Some have died, but many others never make it back whole again. Part of their minds, their soul maybe, never reintegrate with our reality here.
Bullshit. Salivia Divinorum is so non-toxic it has no known LD50. All this woo-woo scary crap about souls "not making it back" is about as credible as a summer camp ghost story. As with any hallucinogen, care must be taken to use it in a controlled environment so as to minimize the unpleasantness and potential for accidents (i.e. don't drive, walk tightropes, or handle rattlesnakes while high) but there's no inherent danger to it.
Re:Tagit (Score:3, Informative)
Wrong name (Score:2, Informative)
Edwin Abbot Abbot wrote Flatland, not Edwin Abbot, who was Edwin Abbot Abbot's father.