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Large Hadron Collider Goes Live September 10th 409

Naznarreb writes "CERN announced today that the first attempt to circulate a beam through the Large Hadron Collider will be on September 10th, 2008. You can read the press release here. They also announced the event will be webcast live. According to the release, they're just planning to run a few tests laps, not smash any particles, so the world won't be ending quite yet." And despite that September 10th date, according to the BBC, "On 9 August, protons will be piped through LHC magnets for the first time."
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Large Hadron Collider Goes Live September 10th

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  • by suso (153703) * on Thursday August 07, 2008 @02:26PM (#24514587) Homepage Journal

    And will take 1 day to warm up right?

  • by wattrlz (1162603) on Thursday August 07, 2008 @02:27PM (#24514601)
    Did we ever reach an agreement about those micro-black-holes?
  • by unity100 (970058) on Thursday August 07, 2008 @02:29PM (#24514627) Homepage Journal
    It is a good day to die !!!!!
  • Obligatory LHC (Score:5, Informative)

    by psyclone (187154) on Thursday August 07, 2008 @02:30PM (#24514647)

    The other LHC [largehardoncollider.com]

  • Well the day after my birthday actually. So my pressie from the scientists at CERN is going to be the end of the world. A day late. Ain't life grand!

  • by Zordak (123132) on Thursday August 07, 2008 @02:35PM (#24514747) Homepage Journal
    They actually start smashing particles the next day. Which is Sept. 11. Oh, wait...
    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      by tjstork (137384)

      Yep... Bin Laden is about to be upstaged by a supercollider. The whole war on terror to avenge the destruction of the a few buildings in NYC will seem moot after a couple of european scientists accidentally suck the entire state into a black hole.

      • by flyingsquid (813711) on Thursday August 07, 2008 @03:48PM (#24516195)
        Yep... Bin Laden is about to be upstaged by a supercollider. The whole war on terror to avenge the destruction of the a few buildings in NYC will seem moot after a couple of european scientists accidentally suck the entire state into a black hole.

        Maybe we've finally figured out why we haven't had any luck with SETI yet? Perhaps any civilization advanced enough to begin broadcasting in the radio spectrum will, within 100 years, start running scientific experiments that are sufficiently dangerous to cause the extinction of the species? Is that possible?

        On second thought... that's a silly theory, never mind! I'm going to go back to my very important medical experiments. It's pretty cool stuff, actually. I'm using virus-borne DNA to reanimate dead cells to help critically ill people. I think I'm on the verge of a breakthrough but they're going to cut off my funding if I don't get any results soon! Maybe I'll have to take a few shortcuts... use highly unstable, mutation-prone RNA instead of DNA... maybe skip straight to the human testing phase using this cadaver I have lying around my lab...

        Anyhow, have a good day everybody!

  • Oops (Score:4, Funny)

    by Mr.Fork (633378) <edward...j...reddy@@@gmail...com> on Thursday August 07, 2008 @02:35PM (#24514751) Journal
    I can see it now...
    Dr. Dieter Kriegstien: "Acceleratz protonz to maximumn speedz. Dr. Smitz, please pushz zat big ved button."
    Dr. Keron Smith: "Pushing big button... you meant the blue one didn't you Dr. Kriegstien?"
    Dr. Dieter: "Insolenze...vait... vat iz dat veading on zee scopz? Hmm.. it lookz like a microsopikz vack ol..."

    And at this point, the entire mass of the Earth is sucked into a minature black hole the size of a pinhead over a period of 2 microseconds. :)

    Of course, in reality, this is as likely as me winning a superball jackpot lottery, 10'000 timse in a row. But I just CAN'T HELP MYSELF!
  • Ok. Sept 10 plus one day to warm up. Sheeze couldn't they have picked another date for the end of the world?

    Ok, in the Naked Science episode which featured the Large Hadron gizmo they said that some people are concerned that "the micro black holes they create could consume an *entire* city..." then they paused for a short while and added "... and the entire earth!". Love that pause.

    Other than that I got nothing.

  • Cern - (Score:4, Funny)

    by isotope23 (210590) on Thursday August 07, 2008 @02:36PM (#24514769) Homepage Journal

    All yer antimatter is belong to us - Cern

  • OB Futurama (Score:5, Funny)

    by notnAP (846325) on Thursday August 07, 2008 @02:44PM (#24514959)

    FARNSWORTH: So what are you doing to protect my constitutional right to bear doomsday devices?

    N.R.A. MAN: Well, first off, we're gonna get rid of that three-day waiting period for mad scientists.

    FARNSWORTH: Damn straight! Today, the mad scientist can't get a doomsday device, tomorrow it's the mad grad student. Where will it end?

    • by pha7boy (1242512)
      OB Simpsons: But I'm mad now!!! (Homer when he finds out there is a 5 day waiting period to buy a gun)
    • by Gat0r30y (957941)
      I never go anywhere without my LHC to produce microscopic black holes.... for duck hunting
  • by wreave (1282730) on Thursday August 07, 2008 @02:51PM (#24515085)
    Looks like 9 September will be a good day to charge up my HEV suit and sharpen my crowbar...
    • I'll actually be at some company called Aperture Science that week doing some volunteer tests, so I should be nice and safe there. They supposedly even have cake.

  • Dr Ray Stantz: You know, it just occurred to me that we really haven't had a successful test of this equipment. Dr. Egon Spengler: I blame myself. Dr. Peter Venkman: So do I. Dr Ray Stantz: Well, no sense in worrying about it now. Dr. Peter Venkman: Why worry? Each one of us is carrying an unlicensed nuclear accelerator on his back.
  • by ChangeOnInstall (589099) on Thursday August 07, 2008 @02:53PM (#24515149)

    HTTP 599
    Service Permanently Unavailable

    The server you are trying to contact has crossed the event horizon of a black hole.

  • Large Hadron Collider Goes Live September 10th

    Sorry, I keep seeing:

    Large Hard-on Collider Goes Live September

    It's really sad that my sense of humor has not progressed since junior high school. *sigh*

  • There is no conflict between the two dates. Aug 9 is an injector test and Sep 10 is when they test the main ring.
  • by Xian97 (714198) on Thursday August 07, 2008 @02:59PM (#24515305)
    A red crowbar has been sent to CERN in anticipation of the LHC particle accelerator going online.

    http://www.destructoid.com/reddit-sends-crowbar-to-scientists-to-protect-against-headcrabs-98281.phtml [destructoid.com]
  • Advice to the scientists: When you first get back up after the explosion, make sure to stay away from the lip of the pit one screen to your left.

  • by itsybitsy (149808) on Thursday August 07, 2008 @03:01PM (#24515341)
    Darn the LHC is only number eight on the list. http://www.livescience.com/technology/destroy_earth_mp-1.html [livescience.com]

    Sucked into a microscopic black hole

    You will need: a microscopic black hole. Note that black holes are not eternal, they evaporate due to Hawking radiation. For your average black hole this takes an unimaginable amount of time, but for really small ones it could happen almost instantaneously, as evaporation time is dependent on mass. Therefore you microscopic black hole must have greater than a certain threshold mass, roughly equal to the mass of Mount Everest. Creating a microscopic black hole is tricky, since one needs a reasonable amount of neutronium, but may possibly be achievable by jamming large numbers of atomic nuclei together until they stick. This is left as an exercise to the reader. [I love that part].

    Method: simply place your black hole on the surface of the Earth and wait. Black holes are of such high density that they pass through ordinary matter like a stone through the air. [Yeah, so then how will I place it *on* the Earth. Lousy instructions.] The black hole will plummet through the ground, eating its way to the center of the Earth and all the way through to the other side: then, it'll oscillate back, over and over like a matter-absorbing pendulum. Eventually it will come to rest at the core, having absorbed enough matter to slow it down. Then you just need to wait, while it sits and consumes matter until the whole Earth is gone.

    Highly, highly unlikely. But not impossible.

    Earth's final resting place: a singularity of almost zero size, which will then proceed to happily orbit the Sun as normal.

    Source: "The Dark Side Of The Sun," by Terry Pratchett. It is true that the microscopic black hole idea is an age-old science fiction mainstay which predates Pratchett by a long time, he was my original source for the idea, so that's what I'm putting.
  • My 2 cents (Score:5, Funny)

    by electricbern (1222632) on Thursday August 07, 2008 @03:02PM (#24515351)
    If nothing comes from this demonstration but a black hole it will definitely suck.
  • Yes, I'll probably get modded troll or something for this, but it needs saying.

    There's many comments in here about "oh, what about Sept. 11... couldn't they pick a better day?" and the like.

    NEWS FLASH: The rest of the world does NOT come to a screeching halt every Sept. 11th. All points of business are NOT put on hold on that one day of the year. The rest of the world has moved on, if they even stopped to begin with. GET OVER IT!

    LHC isn't even located in the USA for christ sakes.

    Yes, the Sept. 11 events were sad, but seriously... stop criticizing all events taking place somewhere on earth on or around that date.

  • Seeing it on the ISS (Score:5, Interesting)

    by misterjava66 (1265146) on Thursday August 07, 2008 @03:49PM (#24516235)

    Could you imagine what it would be like to be on the ISS when the earth is destroyed by a LHC mbh.

    The earth would fold up, only a 1% consumption would be needed to make it impossible to land on the earth and survive, but if the earth all went in a few hours or less. wow. And with the angular momemtum of the earth, the mbh would have to rotate on the earth's axis and the mbh would send its radiation beams away from the iss so the iss could be survivable from that prospective. Also, the aero drag would be gone and so orbital reboost would not be needed. I wonder how long they could survive? Also, since the mass of the earth/mbh doesn't change, all those nasty time-drag effects won't happen at the orbital distance of the iss.

    It would make a nice sci-fi short story noir if a multi-year survival could be speculated.


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