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An anonymous reader writes "Former NASA astronaut and moon-walker Dr Edgar Mitchell — a veteran of the Apollo 14 mission — has stunningly claimed aliens exist. And he says extra-terrestrials have visited Earth on several occasions — but the alien contact has been repeatedly covered up by governments for six decades. Dr Mitchell, 77, said during a radio interview that sources at the space agency who had had contact with aliens described the beings as 'little people who look strange to us.'"
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Apollo 14 Moonwalker Claims Aliens Exist

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  • by FatSean (18753) on Thursday July 24, 2008 @12:49PM (#24320659) Homepage Journal

    I think he just had a case of the space madness.

    • by spun (1352) <(moc.oohay) (ta) (yranoituloverevol)> on Thursday July 24, 2008 @12:58PM (#24320855) Journal

      You can't take it from me now! I've had this ice-cream bar since I was a CHILD! People...always trying to take it from me! Why won't they LEAVE ME ALOOOOOONNNNE?

    • by MillionthMonkey (240664) on Thursday July 24, 2008 @01:04PM (#24320963)

      And how many times have YOU been in space? This guy has BEEN there. He knows the facts on the ground.

      • Re:Space Madness! (Score:5, Insightful)

        by FlyingSquidStudios (1031284) on Thursday July 24, 2008 @01:10PM (#24321077) Homepage
        That's ridiculous. That's like saying an airline pilot knows about the latest top secret fighter plane designs. Personally, I find it a bit hard to believe that a civilization is smart enough to travel interstellar distances but too stupid to use basic camouflage.
        • Re:Space Madness! (Score:5, Insightful)

          by Opportunist (166417) on Thursday July 24, 2008 @01:25PM (#24321431)

          Or land their crates safely after traveling for billions of miles, or at least crash somewhere else but in the middle of nowhere, midwest USA.

          One could imagine that they're either more subtle when they try to remain under cover than leaving mutilated cattle and anally probed people lying around after their departure, or that they'd be more choosy when trying to reveal themselves than to show themselves only to some moonshine-swigging hicks. Why not land in the middle of the Superbowl finals, now THAT's revealing!

          Seriously, for such an advanced species, they make very little sense.

          • by KillerBob (217953) on Thursday July 24, 2008 @01:49PM (#24321941)

            Maybe they're just fetishists... we have some pretty messed up fetishes among the human population, so why is it so hard to believe that aliens might get off by sticking things in your bum?

            • by whopub (1100981) on Thursday July 24, 2008 @03:07PM (#24323485)
              You're absolutely right. It works the other way around too. If I saw a really hot female alien I'd want to probe her every hole too. And sci-fi is full of really hot alien chicks! If we get something like Spielberg's ET though, that's a different story. There's no hole there worth probing. But hey, his flat head and small height would probably make him perfect to hold the TV remote. No probing required.
              • by hairyfeet (841228) <bassbeast1968&gmail,com> on Thursday July 24, 2008 @04:18PM (#24324845) Journal

                Nah,I think if they are out there that in all likelihood they are tourists. Which would also explain the not bothering to hide bit,as you want the animals to get closer to the vehicle for your paying customers so they can get a good look. And I imagine some little green pitchman is sitting in the front going "LOOK,look at the crazy monkeys! Look as they fight and kill each other for fluids that come out of the ground! Look as they poison themselves with their primitive machines and factories! For those that pay an extra 40 flurb we will actually catch a male and female monkey and you can poke at them! Get a close look at the strange creatures! Tell all your friends you got to poke a monkey!"

                And why would they bother hiding anyway? Would WE hide from a race that was stone knives and bearskins while we have F18s and nuclear powered aircraft carriers? While I'm sure some of our scientists would scream about contaminating the environment of a primitive peoples,most would be "Look at them! They are so silly looking! Can we get a souvenir?" Because when compared to any race that could travel across the universe at FTL speeds we would be the stone knives and bearskins. But as always this is my 02c,YMMV

            • by Opportunist (166417) on Thursday July 24, 2008 @04:24PM (#24324949)

              Hmm... possible.

              Imagine we found some extrasolar planet where the females all look like little girls in school uniforms and the males like tentacle monsters... I bet Japan would be developing the FTL drive within a decade.

              Maybe it's similar for aliens.

          • Re:Space Madness! (Score:5, Insightful)

            by Forcepath (851955) on Thursday July 24, 2008 @01:58PM (#24322131)
            Just because they're advanced doesn't mean the have the same notions of importance as we as human being do. Add in language, cultural, and technological barriers, and it isn't so strange at all that aliens could do some really dumb things by human logic. Perhaps aliens use biotechnology we haven't dreamed of, or have never heard of radio waves, etc etc.
          • Re:Space Madness! (Score:5, Interesting)

            by morgan_greywolf (835522) * on Thursday July 24, 2008 @01:58PM (#24322137) Homepage Journal

            Or land their crates safely after traveling for billions of miles, or at least crash somewhere else but in the middle of nowhere, midwest USA.

            If you were an alien, where would you land your craft? In the middle of nowhere, where there is no one around to mess with you or your stuff, or in the right in the middle of Central Park, where the Bloods or the Crips might gank you and jack your ride?

            One could imagine that they're either more subtle when they try to remain under cover than leaving mutilated cattle and anally probed people lying around after their departure

            Mutilated cattle may be an entirely different phenomenon than aliens (see el chupacabra, for instance, for a weirder, but alternate explanation), but as far as anally-probed people -- well, again, if you were going to anally probe people, would you anally probe the President or some celebrity or would you pick some poor schmuck whom no one is ever going to believe?

            Why not land in the middle of the Superbowl finals

            I assume they also wouldn't want to get involved in local conflicts.

            C'mon, try to see it from the alien's perspective.

          • Re:Space Madness! (Score:5, Insightful)

            by eonlabs (921625) on Thursday July 24, 2008 @01:59PM (#24322157) Journal

            I'd love to play with this a bit:

            1. There's a lot less to crash into during space travel than when you're at or near a planet. We did a lot more crashing of probes into Mars than in the space between here and Mars.

            2. The mutilated cattle and anal probes are probably being done by people and being blamed on aliens. That never had to be UFOs, and it can still be someone covering up for their sick relatives.

            3. Why not land in the middle of the superbowl? What if they deemed our civilization was not secure enough for open contact. What are the odds that enough scared people with the means of launching a missle would be interested in doing so out of fear. Pre-emptive strike ring any bells? From that perspective, landing in desolate areas makes logical sense. Although it would probably make more sense for a water landing if possible. Easier to hide.

            4. We need more gratuitous references to our typical /. memes

            I for one welcome our alien brethren/overlords

            1. mutilate cows
            2. anal probe astronauts
            3. flashy thing people
            4. ???
            5. profit!

            • Re:Space Madness! (Score:5, Insightful)

              by Al Al Cool J (234559) on Thursday July 24, 2008 @04:10PM (#24324695)

              1. There's also the possibility that they are messing with us. I can see benefits to a first contact scenario in which you fake a crash and come off looking all helpless, and a lot less scary. If I can see the benefits, then so too might alien-thinking aliens. It amazes me how many intelligent rational people will implicitly assert that aliens don't exist unless they behave like humans would expect them too. ("aliens can't be real because if they were then they would surely be doing _____")

              2. There was a documentary done a while back that made a very good case for cattle mutiliation being a government black op to monitor radiation absorption levels in areas near where secret nuclear testing and uranium mining has been done. Apparently the tissue (lips, anus) which are most frequently removed from mutilated cattle are the ones that also provide good indication of radiation absorption.

              3. See my rant in point 1. Aliens look alien. Aliens think alien. You can't assess their likelihood of existing based on a priori assumptions about what you expect their behavior should be.

              4. That's a given

          • Re:Space Madness! (Score:5, Interesting)

            by Reapy (688651) on Thursday July 24, 2008 @02:00PM (#24322165)

            I think people think too much with their 5 senses when thinking about alien life forms. What's to say there isn't a whole world existing in the same space as us, and we just cant perceive it.

            But step back from that philosophical stuff, and imagine that why would there be another species similar humans? I think people think aliens, they think human with different features with similar concepts of life, death, morals, social "revealing" ( would they even understand what that is? ) rather then something so foreign, we couldn't even begin to understand it, nor its motivations, if it has those?

            Sci fi is fun because we graft human behavior on something different, and its fun for us to say ooh look they are just like us. But in the end it is just the human ego projection our emotions on something else.

            I watched wall-e the other day. I was amazed at how well pixar could make a box with eyes utterly human. Our minds see patterns, shapes, and behavior in the right spot, and we fill in the blanks with the emotions. This is the same thing people do with the idea of "aliens". I think it is limiting, egotistical, and utterly human. We just need to remember to keep open minds about what we see, or "alien" life, because in reality it just seems like we are looking for life "similar" enough to what we know, to call it life.

            For any geeks out there, orson-scott card's ender books (the later ones) deal with this a bit, as they try to discover whether a virus is actually a species, and wiping out a really smart virus is in fact genocide.

            Just interesting stuff, but we have to remember to stop grafting our humanism on top of alien things we do not understand.

            • by FlyingSquidStudios (1031284) on Thursday July 24, 2008 @02:13PM (#24322431) Homepage

              What's to say there isn't a whole world existing in the same space as us, and we just cant perceive it.

              On a wild guess, I'd say physics.

          • by pla (258480) on Thursday July 24, 2008 @02:18PM (#24322531) Journal
            Or land their crates safely after traveling for billions of miles, or at least crash somewhere else but in the middle of nowhere, midwest USA.

            I know, right? Why, just imagine, if you can, a civilization that has the ability to launch things out into space, sending a craft all the way to another planet, only to have it crash due to some absurd oversight such as, oh, say, a Metric-to-Imperial measurement conversion or the like!

            Sheer absurdity, I tell you!


            Seriously - Aliens, if they do exist, do not count as infallible techno-gods come to save us from ourselves. They most likely have similar flaws to our own, and have simply made it a few centuries further along than we have.
          • Re:Space Madness! (Score:5, Insightful)

            by isomeme (177414) <cdberry@gmail.com> on Thursday July 24, 2008 @02:43PM (#24323033) Homepage Journal

            Seriously, for such an advanced species, they make very little sense.

            Yep. It's almost like they're, you know, alien or something.

          • Re:Space Madness! (Score:5, Interesting)

            by herriojr (792305) on Thursday July 24, 2008 @02:46PM (#24323085)
            Why would they feel the need to "reveal" themselves to us? When biologists study wildlife, they try to stay as hidden as possible. Who's to say that we're not wildlife to them? And seriously, just like rogue biologists, there could be rogue aliens that try to get closer than they are supposed to.
        • Re:Space Madness! (Score:5, Insightful)

          by Beardo the Bearded (321478) on Thursday July 24, 2008 @01:49PM (#24321935)

          I hope that we're not alone. The idea that this is the only planet with sentient life anywhere in the Universe isn't just a waste of space. It chills me to the core to think that there's no Others out there. I hope they're waiting for us. "Hey, humans, you made it! We thought you'd never get out of that singularity."

          Let's also assume that they have different physics and that FTL travel is possible and routine.

          If there were aliens that were aware of our existence, it's likely that they would watch us to see what we would want them to do.

          "Hmm. There's genocide here and here, 40 000 of their offspring starve to death each day. They do not interfere. We should not interfere with their development.

          "They are afraid of things which are different. We are different. We should not show ourselves."

          • by parabyte (61793) on Thursday July 24, 2008 @02:45PM (#24323081) Homepage

            Although improbable, there has to be a first civilization in our galaxy, and maybe we are the most advanced life form in our galaxy so far. Regarding the age of the universe, it is possible, because the matter of the solar system had to go through 2 or 3 supernovae before having enough high period elements, and it took the universe about 5 billion years alone to create us since our planet was created, which is more than a third of the age of the universe.

            This leaves us with a number of possibilities:

            - we are the first
            - intelligent life is very rare or very fragile and volatile in our universe
            - the guy is right and they are already here and among us (maybe they are criminals hiding on a primitive planet)
            - interstellar distances are simply to big to be overcome, or no one wants to pay for the energy
            - evil alien predators are already on their way to blow us out of the sky before we become serious competitors
            - we live in a zoo and are just being watched
            - everything is just a big illusion, and our reality is only virtual

            p.

        • Re:Space Madness! (Score:5, Insightful)

          by BobMcD (601576) on Thursday July 24, 2008 @01:52PM (#24322025)

          That's ridiculous.

          Really? Picture this scenario: Aliens are real. You know it, and you're about to send an Astronaut to the moon, where you feel it is likely they may encounter aliens. Would you NOT brief said Astronauts beforehand? No procedures, no protocol, not even a heads-up? Really?

          I think that THIS would be the ridiculous position.

          Personally, I find it a bit hard to believe that a civilization is smart enough to travel interstellar distances but too stupid to use basic camouflage.

          What stupidity would be required? Again, imagine you're an alien. You know these inferior beings represent no threat to you at all. Likewise, you know their civilization will deny your existence. Why, then, would you waste any spare cycles on camo?

          Your assumptions seem to be based on excluding the possibility that aliens do, in fact, exist. There's nothing wrong with that, as an opinion, except that it limits the opposite conclusion unnecessarily.

      • Re:Space Madness! (Score:5, Interesting)

        by Opportunist (166417) on Thursday July 24, 2008 @01:19PM (#24321309)

        Says who? Hey, we're already arguing on conspiracy grounds, why not argue for fake moon landings while we're at it?

        I'm a programmer, but that doesn't make me more credible than someone who has no clue about programming when I claim that Cthuluh is controlling the internet.

        • Re:Space Madness! (Score:5, Informative)

          by SpleenVenter (976034) on Thursday July 24, 2008 @01:32PM (#24321597)
          > when I claim that Cthuluh is controlling the internet.

          That was not supposed to be revealed. A nasty tentacle is on its way to claim your mortal husk.
        • Re:Space Madness! (Score:5, Interesting)

          by blahplusplus (757119) on Thursday July 24, 2008 @01:46PM (#24321845)

          "Says who? Hey, we're already arguing on conspiracy grounds, why not argue for fake moon landings while we're at it?

          I'm a programmer, but that doesn't make me more credible than someone who has no clue about programming when I claim that Cthuluh is controlling the internet."

          While I agree with you somewhat, I've it's a hobby of mine to scour the "crazy's", because frequently because of their over-active paranoia they'll pick up things that most people normally wouldn't that are in fact TRUE, the problem with these people is that - they mix truth with imagined relationships or patterns that aren't there, thereby most people disqualify all of what they say by association, instead of just 'ignoring' what is false, and finding what is true.

          The truth of a statement is not determined by:

          -The status of the person
          -Their education
          -Whether or not that society considers them crazy/kooky, etc
          -and on and on.

          A statement is true whether or not someone is crazy, educated or not, has a job or not, or is rich or not. This 'false by association' stuff is programmed into us from birth, and while it can be a nice heuristic. I'd really like a study done on the amount of true statements vs false statements, done scientifically and with an eye towards taking what is said statement by statement to analyze the truth value's. I imagine the kind of patterns that you'd find would be interesting to say the least.

          I imagine paranoid/crazy people would pick up a lot of true stuff that we deem false because we've been programmed by education/the media/entertainment, etc, and vice versa.

    • by MrMacman2u (831102) on Thursday July 24, 2008 @01:13PM (#24321161) Journal
      I think you meant "He has Space Dementia!"
    • by unlametheweak (1102159) on Thursday July 24, 2008 @01:25PM (#24321441)

      Nope,

      He said supposedly real-life ET's were similar to the traditional image of a small frame, large eyes and head.

      Sounds more than likely he bumped into Ross Perot on a dark night.

      Ref:
      http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Ross_Perot [uncyclopedia.org]

    • by tritonman (998572) on Thursday July 24, 2008 @01:31PM (#24321573)
      Unfortunately, all the UFO buffs who would be delighted to hear this information are also the same people who believe that the moonwalks were a sham, so they won't believe a word he says.
  • Huh. (Score:5, Funny)

    by AltGrendel (175092) <`su.0tixe' `ta' `todhsals-ga'> on Thursday July 24, 2008 @12:49PM (#24320667) Homepage

    "little people who look strange to us."

    Well, maybe we look strange to them, too. Ever think of that?

    • Re:Huh. (Score:5, Funny)

      by ByOhTek (1181381) on Thursday July 24, 2008 @12:56PM (#24320823) Journal

      Look strange?

      Alien 1: They reproduce HOW?
      Alien 2: *repeats explanation*
      Alien 1: That's... Revolting!

    • Re:Huh. (Score:5, Funny)

      by Ngarrang (1023425) on Thursday July 24, 2008 @01:00PM (#24320885) Journal

      "little people who look strange to us."

      Well, maybe we look strange to them, too. Ever think of that?

      Hush, you ugly bag of mostly water.

    • Re:Huh. (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Svippy (876087) on Thursday July 24, 2008 @01:11PM (#24321113) Homepage

      You know what is confusing me about these aliens? Why do they always contact governments when they come to Earth so they can cover it up?

      I can only applaud our governments, they are doing an excellent job. If they are capable of covering up moon hoaxes, 9/11 plans and aliens crash landing, I'd just wish they were able to do their job just as fine with, say, the war in Iraq?

      This is what always gets me about these people, they talk as if the government is a body of competent people. Last time I checked, they aren't! Private corporations could run most countries better.

      A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned.

      • Re:Huh. (Score:5, Informative)

        by Intron (870560) on Thursday July 24, 2008 @01:20PM (#24321331)
        They were doing that, too [wikipedia.org].
      • Re:Huh. (Score:5, Funny)

        by Admiral Ag (829695) on Thursday July 24, 2008 @01:22PM (#24321373)

        Of course they do. Aliens have a sense of humour. That is why they only ever contact/abduct drug abusers, lunatics or drunks staggering home at night from the pub.

        The common thread here is that they will only reveal themselves to people who the general population will never believe. That's why they have no problem revealing themselves to our governments.

      • Re:Huh. (Score:5, Insightful)

        by geekoid (135745) <dadinportland.yahoo@com> on Thursday July 24, 2008 @02:01PM (#24322181) Homepage Journal

        No, they can't.
        If you actually research it, you would find that Government agencies are almost always on target.

        There are three things to remember.
        1)I corporation can fail at 99 project, and succeed at one. No one will talk about the failures, and they will hype the success. Where as with a government agency they can do 99 projects right, and miss one and that one gets hyped all through the media.

        2) Go to the library and look at the fiscal records, almost all projects are done on time and within budget.

        3) Government agencies have for more accountability then corporation.

    • Re:Huh. (Score:5, Funny)

      by Abreu (173023) on Thursday July 24, 2008 @01:17PM (#24321253)

      With apologies to Terry Bisson:

      -"They are made out of meat??"

      -"That's what I've been trying to tell you!"

      -"Yuck... Thats just disgusting"

      -"I am glad you finally believe me"

      -"So, what do you advise?"

      -"Officially, or unofficially?"

      -"Both"

      -"Officially, we are required to contact, welcome and log in any and all sentient races or multibeings in this quadrant of the Universe, without prejudice, fear or favor. Unofficially, I advise that we erase the records and forget the whole thing"

      -"I was hoping you would say that"

      -"It seems harsh, but there is a limit. Do we really want to make contact with meat?"

      -

    • Re:Huh. (Score:5, Interesting)

      by sm62704 (957197) on Thursday July 24, 2008 @01:19PM (#24321295) Journal

      I don't buy the "space alien" story for the simple reason that the "Area 51" aliens look too much like us. Bipedal, five fingers, five toes, two eyes, one two holed nose, one mouth. Look at the diversity of life on earth, with hooved animals, pipedaal animals with feathers, squids, six legged insects and eight legged spiders, no legged snakes. And all of these creatures presumably evolved from the first earthly protolife, as we've never seen life sponaneously appear since, nor have we been able to cause it to spontaneously appear.

      Plus, how would they have found us? Our radio waves are incredibly weak. Even nuclear blasts are weak on a cosmic scale, and nobody farther than fifty light years away could have detected them yet.

      If in fact they are aliens, they must be time aliens, not space aliens; a species that evolved from humans and travelled through time to do a bit of archaeology. Considering that humans have only been here a hundred thousand years (and look at how we have progressed since), imagine what our descendants ten million years in the future will be like? We will be less than chimpanses by comparison.

      I can believe time travel before I believe faster than light travel.

  • by Homer's Donuts (838704) on Thursday July 24, 2008 @12:49PM (#24320671)

    Will he be on Coast to Coast AM soon?

  • old news (Score:5, Informative)

    by sohp (22984) <(snewton) (at) (io.com)> on Thursday July 24, 2008 @12:50PM (#24320679) Homepage

    Dr. Mitchell has been saying this about aliens for many years now. He's always had a bit of a pseudo-scientific bent. During his Apollo 14 flight to the moon, he secretly conducted ESP experiments with friends back on Earth.

    • by Bananatree3 (872975) on Thursday July 24, 2008 @12:57PM (#24320837)
      radio interview [kerrangradio.co.uk]
  • Moonwalker (Score:5, Funny)

    by hansamurai (907719) <hansamurai@gmail.com> on Thursday July 24, 2008 @12:50PM (#24320703) Homepage Journal

    I've seen Moonwalker [imdb.com] and I would definitely agree with this notion.

  • by k_187 (61692) on Thursday July 24, 2008 @12:51PM (#24320715) Journal
    If its as well covered up as he says it is, why did they let him talk? They're obviously allowing him to go public so he'll appear as a crackpot and give credibility to the opposing view.
  • by InvisblePinkUnicorn (1126837) on Thursday July 24, 2008 @12:53PM (#24320749)
    He's just mad that only Buzz [csicop.org] gets any attention these days.
  • by BPPG (1181851) <bppg1986@gmail.com> on Thursday July 24, 2008 @12:53PM (#24320757)
    What was his source? He doesn't claim to have seen them himself, or anything according to TFA.
  • by TypoNAM (695420) on Thursday July 24, 2008 @12:53PM (#24320759)

    'little people who look strange to us.'
    Tom Cruise and the scientologists?

  • by cosmocain (1060326) on Thursday July 24, 2008 @12:53PM (#24320761)
    back to Earth aboard Apollo 14, Mitchell had an epiphany while looking down on the earth from space. "The presence of divinity became almost palpable, and I knew that life in the universe was not just an accident based on random processes ... The knowledge came to me directly," here [wikipedia.org]

    Who would have thought that he'd go totally nuts one day.
  • cover-up (Score:4, Funny)

    by Lord Ender (156273) on Thursday July 24, 2008 @12:55PM (#24320797) Homepage

    To cover-up this conspiracy, the government will soon inject him with a secret drug to give him dementia. Those diabolical bastards... who stole my teeth??

  • by Deathdonut (604275) on Thursday July 24, 2008 @12:55PM (#24320801)

    little people who look strange to us.

    I for one welcome our new Danny DeVito overlords.

  • by rfernand79 (643913) on Thursday July 24, 2008 @12:56PM (#24320811)
    Seriously, I do.
  • Documentary (Score:5, Funny)

    by wile_e_wonka (934864) on Thursday July 24, 2008 @12:56PM (#24320831)

    In that case, I'll tell my wife that the new X-Files movie is a documentary.

  • by Bullfish (858648) on Thursday July 24, 2008 @12:59PM (#24320877)

    And they are out there right now...

    Mowing my lawn and trimming my hedge

  • by snarfies (115214) on Thursday July 24, 2008 @01:00PM (#24320893) Homepage

    Tom Cruise worships L. Ron Hubbard.
    Jim Carey think vaccinations give you autism.

    Just because you're famous doesn't mean you can't be a total crackpot. Its too bad this time its somebody more science-related.

  • Why senile? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Narpak (961733) on Thursday July 24, 2008 @01:06PM (#24321001)
    Why does it seem so many assume that this is something he have started believing now at this late age; and that is it connected to dementia?

    Edgar Mitchell have been involved with fringe science for a long time, and have made statements proclamation his belief in UFOs for a long time. It is his belief; if he seen something to make him believe this I do not know. But to say that this is simply old age and senility is unkind and inaccurate.
  • by aaronfaby (741318) on Thursday July 24, 2008 @01:06PM (#24321003)
    I find it impossible to believe that the government is capable of keeping conspiracies secret. They couldn't keep 5 guys breaking into the DNC office a secret (Watergate), but somehow they can orchestrate an elaborate conspiracy involving thousands of people over the course of 6 decades and not a single shred of credible evidence has been leaked. I'm sorry but deathbed confessions don't count.
    • by debrain (29228) on Thursday July 24, 2008 @02:07PM (#24322335) Journal

      I find it impossible to believe that the government is capable of keeping conspiracies secret. They couldn't keep 5 guys breaking into the DNC office a secret (Watergate), but somehow they can orchestrate an elaborate conspiracy involving thousands of people over the course of 6 decades and not a single shred of credible evidence has been leaked. I'm sorry but deathbed confessions don't count.

      The voice of evil itself speaks of its means to such ends:

      "The size of the lie is a definite factor in causing it to be believed, for the vast masses of a nation are in the depths of their hearts more easily deceived than they are consciously and intentionally bad. The primitive simplicity of their minds renders them a more easy prey to a big lie than a small one, for they themselves often tell little lies, but would be ashamed to tell big lies."
          - Hitler

      To wit, your argument - the lack of evidence - mirrors what was said about the Nazi death camps prior to the end of World War 2. People denied it, vehemently and utterly, until not just evidence but overwhelming evidence contradicted them. Even today, people deny that millions were killed in the holocaust.

      People believe what they want to believe, and people don't want to believe things that threaten their assumptions about the world.

      I recognize your argument, and it's a valid one, but I, for one, believe alien visitors could be concealed by governments.

  • Pffffft (Score:4, Funny)

    by Born2bwire (977760) on Thursday July 24, 2008 @01:09PM (#24321063)

    How can anyone seriously believe this guy? First he claims that we've walked on the moon and now he's saying that aliens exist.

  • by farbles (672915) on Thursday July 24, 2008 @01:10PM (#24321075)

    Back in the good old days people who leaked a big conspiracy disappeared. Ever since the first Kennedy assassination, the Powers That Be have discovered that the best way to deal with leaks is to just have more and more leaks and bury the truth in a million similar sounding lies.

    Suppose Mitchell's right and there really is a big alien contact conspiracy that's being covered up? We've all seen so many photos of streetlights coming from crazy/misguided people that the best policy from the conspiracy's point of view would be to let him yammer on and throw out a lot of phony alien contact crap. They don't have to discredit him, we'd all do that for them.

    All they need to do is keep him from getting at any legit relics storage so he can't go public with an alien tricorder or something that people can verify as ET in origin and the world will just think he's a loon.

    That's the trouble with real earth-shaking truth, it sounds almost indistinguishable from lunacy. You gotta wonder if there is a percentage of our locked-away crazies who are telling us the truth and we're just too thick to see it.

    • by RabidMoose (746680) on Thursday July 24, 2008 @01:31PM (#24321569) Homepage

      That's the trouble with real earth-shaking truth, it sounds almost indistinguishable from lunacy. You gotta wonder if there is a percentage of our locked-away crazies who are telling us the truth and we're just too thick to see it.

      Please listen to this man! I'm not crazy! The robots are going to take over and kill us all! Skynet! SKYNET!!!

    • by Dragoness Eclectic (244826) on Thursday July 24, 2008 @02:21PM (#24322571)

      The crazies are the ones whose judgment is enough impaired that they make the mistake of talking about it.

      Sane people see a lot of weird stuff over a lifetime, but we keep our mouths shut because (a) we want to be able to keep a job and pay the bills, and (b) no one wants to hear you talk about the weird stuff except the crazies. See, other sane people either (a) never saw the weird stuff, so they think you are crazy, or (b) they have, and they know better than to talk about it in public, so they think you're one of the crazies for talking about it. Either way, they back away quickly and you find that no one sane wants to talk to you.

      The first rule about the Weird Stuff is we don't talk about the Weird Stuff.

  • by mmell (832646) <mike.mell@gmail.com> on Thursday July 24, 2008 @01:11PM (#24321101)
    Unless they had the interstellar equivalent of a flat tire, why would they stop here? Certainly not to learn anything from us - about us, perhaps; but any race capable of overcoming the obstacle that is interstellar space would hardly be interested in our coal/oil/uranium fired technologies. Not to learn from our social development (unless it's from morbid curiosity, to see why we haven't wiped ourselves out yet). No, if E.T. ever shows up, it'll be like when the US fleet showed up at all those little islands in the Pacific - and we'll do little better than the Polynesians did in that encounter. I therefore consider it our patriotic duty if any extraterrestials are found here on earth to kill them and eat them. This will not only serve to discourage them from messing with us but could alleviate starvation in certain third-world countries, and might very well prove to be tasty!

    Count on something less like Star Drek, Nth Contact and more like ID4, except for the part at the end where we survived (I doubt they would be running Windows on the mothership). I just don't see their presence staying secret for long.

    As for Doctor Mitchell, I recommend adjusting the dosage on his meds.

  • what to do? (Score:5, Funny)

    by mattwarden (699984) on Thursday July 24, 2008 @01:13PM (#24321153) Homepage

    I am so conflicted. In order to believe this support for one of my favorite conspiracy theories, I have to accept that this guy is credible. In order to accept he is credible, I have to ignore one of my other favorite conspiracy theories about the moon landing. Maybe this situation is presented to me as a test to see whether my brain is harvestable.

  • by bberens (965711) on Thursday July 24, 2008 @01:21PM (#24321351)
    This story comes up just as the new X-Files movie comes out. Coincidence? I think not.
  • by jcr (53032) <.jcr. .at. .mac.com.> on Thursday July 24, 2008 @01:23PM (#24321391) Journal

    require extraordinary proof. Regrettably, there is none.

    -jcr

  • by pembo13 (770295) on Thursday July 24, 2008 @01:26PM (#24321449) Homepage

    It seems far more likely to me that the government is covering up things they themselves do than the actions of aliens. Furthermore, why would an intelligent species meet with what I consider to be generally the most violent portion of supposedly civilized society, find reason to return, but not take stuff from us.

    Unless all they want are our bees and ozone.

  • Not the only one (Score:5, Interesting)

    by 4D6963 (933028) on Thursday July 24, 2008 @01:36PM (#24321683)

    Gordon Cooper (Mercury 9 & Gemini 5) has also made similar claims [wikipedia.org]. I seem to recall hearing such claims also made by other astronauts, as well as engineers etc..

  • by xPsi (851544) * on Thursday July 24, 2008 @01:37PM (#24321709)
    As Michael Shermer has observed, "smart people believe weird things because they are skilled at defending beliefs they arrived at for non-smart reasons." A humble reminder that you can have a degree in aeronautical engineering, a doctorate in aeronautics and astronautics, and also walk on the fucking moon, and still have totally pseudoscientific, non-evidence-based views about the world just because you personally want them to be true.
  • by wikinerd (809585) on Thursday July 24, 2008 @04:18PM (#24324841) Journal

    A coverup? A massive worldwide coverup? C'mon. Is there anyone really believing that governments are capable of it? Do you remember stories about Word documents with metadata that revealed more than intented? Governments aren't capable of covering much simpler things, let alone UFOs.

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