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NASA May Hire Japanese Spacecraft For ISS Service Mission 87

Posted by timothy
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schliz writes "NASA is talking to Japan's space agency about using one of its spacecraft for servicing missions to the International Space Station, according to Japanese media reports. NASA has been considering various options to maintain its commitment to the Space Station after the Space Shuttle is retired from service in 2010. According to Japanese newspaper Yomiuri Shimbun, 'unofficial negotiations' between NASA and the Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency (Jaxa) began in February."
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NASA May Hire Japanese Spacecraft For ISS Service Mission

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  • Re:In return? (Score:3, Informative)

    by afidel (530433) on Tuesday July 22, 2008 @11:57AM (#24290231)
    Nope, the Air Force and Congress are pretty adamant about not selling the F-22 to anyone. They are willing to sell the F-35 JSF however which in many ways is a detuned F-22.
  • Denied by NASA (Score:3, Informative)

    by photonic (584757) on Tuesday July 22, 2008 @11:59AM (#24290251)
    Apparently, NASA has already issued a statement [google.com] denying this rumor. I couldn't find a press release on NASA's own website, though.
  • NASA Statement (Score:3, Informative)

    by everphilski (877346) on Tuesday July 22, 2008 @12:01PM (#24290281) Journal
  • by crymeph0 (682581) on Tuesday July 22, 2008 @12:02PM (#24290299)
    It is on NASA's site, though. Searching Google for some text from the press release yielded this link. [nasa.gov]
  • Re:That's odd. (Score:4, Informative)

    by meringuoid (568297) on Tuesday July 22, 2008 @12:20PM (#24290541)
    And what happened to Russia? I thought they were a huge part of the ISS, and just recently the RSA received a lot more interest from their government if I recall correctly, so why aren't we poking sticks at them?

    Russia's Progress supply ships have been keeping the ISS running for years. When the Shuttle was grounded after Columbia, it was the Russians who kept the project alive.

    It was a close-run thing, though; the Shuttle's cargo capacity dwarfs Progress, and it was a major loss. Hence the development of independent cargo ships by ESA and Japan. These are much bigger than Soyuz, and also divide the labour three ways instead of relying on Russia alone to produce enough rockets.

  • Uhm...think again... (Score:5, Informative)

    by mastallama (1330695) on Tuesday July 22, 2008 @12:34PM (#24290763)
    Actually, NASA has said they're not going to use Japan. http://www.livescience.com/blogs/author/tariqmalik/ [livescience.com]
  • by meringuoid (568297) on Tuesday July 22, 2008 @01:00PM (#24291217)

    From my email yesterday:

    From: NASA News (hqnews@mediaservices.nasa.gov)
    Sent: Mon 7/21/08 4:00 PM
    To: NASA News (hqnews@mediaservices.nasa.gov)

    July 21, 2008

    John Yembrick
    Headquarters, Washington
    202-358-0602
    John.yembrick-1@nasa.gov

    RELEASE: 08-181

    STATEMENT ON INACCURATE REPORTS ABOUT JAPANESE CARGO SERVICES

    WASHINGTON -- Contrary to news reports, NASA has not officially or
    unofficially been discussing the purchase of H-II Transfer Vehicles
    (HTV) -- uninhabited resupply cargo ships for the space station --
    from the Japanese Space Agency, or JAXA.

    NASA is committed to domestic commercial cargo resupply to the space
    station and does not plan to procure cargo delivery services from
    Japan. As part of our original agreements as compensation for common
    system operating costs NASA has limited cargo capability on the
    Japanese and European cargo vehicles. NASA has recently issued a
    request for proposal for the cargo needs of International Space
    Station beyond those supplied by our current international
    agreements. NASA has chosen to depend on commercial resupply of cargo
    delivery to the station.

    -end-

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  • Re:That's odd. (Score:3, Informative)

    by DerekLyons (302214) <fairwater@nosPam.gmail.com> on Tuesday July 22, 2008 @01:44PM (#24291991) Homepage

    Probably the more interesting thing to note here is that JAXA even *has* a spacecraft for something of that sort.

    Well, only sorta. The HTV [wikipedia.org] is untested and so is the H-IIB [wikipedia.org] booster that will be used to place it in orbit.
     

    The spacecraft in question, H-II, was only announced recently in 2008

    The spacecraft in question (the HTV) has been on the drawing boards for well over a decade - originally scheduled to enter service in 2001, it has been much delayed by lack of funding by JAXA and ongoing problems with the H-II [wikipedia.org] booster.
     

    And what happened to Russia? I thought they were a huge part of the ISS, and just recently the RSA received a lot more interest from their government if I recall correctly, so why aren't we poking sticks at them?

    Japan is one of the major partners as well... That being said, we are poking sticks at the Russians but they can barely meet their own commitments for the foreseeable future. (The Soyuz and Progress capsules are built JIT and the components thereof in small intermittent lots - which makes it very difficult to increase the production rate.)

  • Re:In return? (Score:2, Informative)

    by GrayNimic (1051532) on Wednesday July 23, 2008 @02:35AM (#24299901)

    it's called money. JAXA would get cold, hard cash in return for HTV (which still hasn't flown)

    Most NASA ISS deals are "No Exchange of Funds". It's all barters - you build it, I'll fly it; I'll maintain it, you give me some cargo room; I'll let you use it, you'll give me a crew member slot; etc. Some deals are using money (most notably some of the deals with Russia, and I think Italy (not ESA)), but the majority of them are barters.

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