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Ray Gun Puts Voices Inside Your Head 517

Posted by CmdrTaco
from the i-told-you-the-voices-were-real dept.
Sportsqs writes "The Sierra Nevada Corporation claimed this week that it is ready to begin production on the MEDUSA, a damned scary ray gun that uses the 'microwave audio effect' to implant sounds and perhaps even specific messages inside people's heads."
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Ray Gun Puts Voices Inside Your Head

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  • by morgan_greywolf (835522) * on Monday July 07, 2008 @11:31AM (#24084297) Homepage Journal

    There you guys sit, all laughing at me at pointing and jeering at my Tinfoil Hat 3000(tm), but look who's sitting pretty now! Ha! Fsckers!

    • by ArcherB (796902) on Monday July 07, 2008 @11:35AM (#24084369) Journal

      There you guys sit, all laughing at me at pointing and jeering at my Tinfoil Hat 3000(tm), but look who's sitting pretty now! Ha! Fsckers!

      You won't be sitting pretty when you shiny new hat starts to spark and arc like a fork in the microwave!

      • by neokushan (932374) on Monday July 07, 2008 @11:44AM (#24084491)

        Of course, that's the REAL purpose of this weapon - something to use against all the tinfoil hats out there!

    • Equality (Score:5, Funny)

      by Joe the Lesser (533425) on Monday July 07, 2008 @11:37AM (#24084389) Homepage Journal

      It's like curing Schizophrenia the backwards way!

    • by MightyYar (622222) on Monday July 07, 2008 @11:37AM (#24084403)

      I was going to make fun of you, but then my new friend Roger told me not to.

    • by GameboyRMH (1153867) <gameboyrmh@NoSpAM.gmail.com> on Monday July 07, 2008 @11:40AM (#24084435) Journal

      http://people.csail.mit.edu/rahimi/helmet/ [mit.edu]

      Conclusion
      The helmets amplify frequency bands that coincide with those allocated to the US government between 1.2 Ghz and 1.4 Ghz. According to the FCC, These bands are supposedly reserved for ''radio location'' (ie, GPS), and other communications with satellites (see, for example, [3]). The 2.6 Ghz band coincides with mobile phone technology. Though not affiliated by government, these bands are at the hands of multinational corporations.

      It requires no stretch of the imagination to conclude that the current helmet craze is likely to have been propagated by the Government, possibly with the involvement of the FCC. We hope this report will encourage the paranoid community to develop improved helmet designs to avoid falling prey to these shortcomings.

      Ha Ha!

      /Nelson

      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        by hey! (33014)

        I've been saying this all along. Tinfoil hats,and Faraday cage like devices in general, can't be relied upon unless they're grounded.

        In many cases, you'll get significant attenuation without grounding, as in the case of foil shields for protecting passport RFIDs, but grounding, even imperfect grounding, would improve shielding tremendously.

        Obviously, you should run a wire from your tinfoil hat to a conductive grounding strip attached to the heel of your shoe. Then you replace your floors with carbon impr

        • by gnick (1211984) on Monday July 07, 2008 @12:37PM (#24085355) Homepage

          Obviously, you should run a wire from your tinfoil hat to a conductive grounding strip attached to the heel of your shoe.

          Actually, the devices I've used connect to the toe of your shoe, not the heel - Both heels are often lifted while walking. And you need to be sure that you run wires to both feet instead of just one. Also, unless you have a conductive floor (we did when we were using these, but for a very different purpose), spikes are more effective than strips. But you need to plan for the terrain. 1/4" spikes are fine for walking (and very effective for grounding) in damp vegetation or earth but may impede your progress on asphalt. In that case, you'll need very shallow spikes and will just have to accept limited grounding unless you're willing to run a very long cable to a copper rod.

    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by b4upoo (166390)

      Perhaps we can beam an entire education into the minds of young people. Think about it. Roughly half of America's young people reach the age of 18 at being virtually retarded these days. Beaming voices into peoples' heads might be a highly useful tool.
      It also might be used to teach people what Islam really is in places like Iraq where an entire religion has been subverted and perverted into a really nasty mess. Teaching real Islam to the public might cure thi

      • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

        by Majik Sheff (930627)

        Hmm, I thought of the Islamist tack as well, but I had a different approach. Let's use their zealotry against them.

        We'll see how motivated they are to blow themselves up when Allah himself tells them that suicide bombing is a deal breaker on the whole eternal paradise thing.

        • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

          by c6gunner (950153)

          We'll see how motivated they are to blow themselves up when Allah himself tells them that suicide bombing is a deal breaker on the whole eternal paradise thing.

          Brilliant! I hereby nominate you for the position of Head Messiah at the newly founded Ministry of Godly Voices.

    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by camperslo (704715)

      Actually you've got the right idea with a tin foil hat. But since the signals may not be coming from the sky, the foil should wrap around as much of your head as possible. Looking through a metal screen or metal full of tiny holes should be effective in blocking signals approaching your face. The holes just have to be small relative to the wavelength of the signal. That should sound familiar since that's what's done in the windows in doors of microwave ovens.

      Since the microwaves are in very short pulses

    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      by Goaway (82658)

      Actually, nobody's laughing at you. That's just me with my ray gun putting laughing voices in your head.

  • by Illbay (700081) on Monday July 07, 2008 @11:33AM (#24084321) Journal
    ...I've had the voice of Reagan inside my head.
    • by sm62704 (957197) on Monday July 07, 2008 @11:45AM (#24084507) Journal

      Reagan? Wasn't that the name of the possessed girl in The Exorcist?

      Thanks to these microwave guns, you no longer need to be schitzophrenic to hear voices. There have been a lot of tinfoil hat jokes (of course) in the comments, but it appears that if you're going to be part of a political demonstration from now on, a tinfoil hat may be necessary to keep the Secret Police out of your head.

  • by gabeman-o (325552) on Monday July 07, 2008 @11:35AM (#24084345)

    I wonder how many Pale Ales you have to drink to get the same effect.

  • That's Ironic (Score:5, Insightful)

    by ComputerGeek01 (1182793) on Monday July 07, 2008 @11:35AM (#24084349)
    that they should name it Medusa, a villain who was defeated by reflecting it's magic back at it...
  • by AlterRNow (1215236) on Monday July 07, 2008 @11:35AM (#24084359)
    .. the fact it wouldn't affect people who already hear voices.
  • by oodaloop (1229816) on Monday July 07, 2008 @11:36AM (#24084373)
    technology as the /. article a few months ago? I seem to remember a govt prototype or some such device that was trying to do the same thing. In any case, I hope this spurs the development of professionally made tin foil hats. The crude home-made variety aren't going to cut it anymore.
  • by rpillala (583965) on Monday July 07, 2008 @11:37AM (#24084393)

    Are they working out of Black Mesa?

  • Whatever (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Bwana Geek (1033040) on Monday July 07, 2008 @11:37AM (#24084405) Journal
    Pfft. Call me when they implement a 'microwave digital surround effect' on this thing. Then I'll be impressed.
  • by jayhawk88 (160512) <jayhawk88@gmail.com> on Monday July 07, 2008 @11:39AM (#24084431)

    In my day they only had ads on TV and radio. And in magazines and movies and ball games and on buses and milk cartons and written in the sky. But not in dreams, no-siree!

  • Is this one of DARPA's toys?
    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by rilister (316428)

      'Where did the development $ come from?' ... as usual, it came from you and me.

      (no, really - from http://www.sncorp.com/about/ataglance.shtml [sncorp.com]
      "SNC (The Sierra Nevada Corporation) is a Privately Held Corporation and is considered the Top Woman Owned Federal Contractor in the US based upon the capabilities and resources to deliver high-technology systems and integration programs at the $1 Billion level")

      -still, I like their beer...

  • by 140Mandak262Jamuna (970587) on Monday July 07, 2008 @11:42AM (#24084459) Journal
    Microwave audio effect? That explains why I keep hearing "90% power... white rice... sensor cook" over and over again.
    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      by mrslacker (1122161)

      Never mind the voice that's telling me to visit a house that's about to be filled with popcorn. Just think, they could have avoided the effort of the implant, and used microwaves for both.

    • Re:That explains it. (Score:5, Interesting)

      by hey! (33014) on Monday July 07, 2008 @12:22PM (#24085093) Homepage Journal

      I think there's a similar effect that explains the "whooshing" sound you hear when you watch shooting stars.

      For years, scientists have believed that the sound was a figment of human imagination, even though many people would swear to hearing it. The problem is that the meteors are miles and miles overhead, but the sound is heard simultaneously. Now I've personally heard the whoosh of a bolide during a the massive meteor shower, and I'd be prepared to swear it was simultaneous with the flash of the meteor trail, even though I know that sound could not travel that fast, even if it were a mere few thousand feet.

      It's even more psychologically convincing because the sound isn't really a "whoosh"; it's not what you'd expect. It's more like the sound of slurping the last bit of milkshake with a straw, listened to through a long PVC pipe.

      I read a few years ago that physicists found an accoustic effect created by the low frequency electrmagnetic energy working on water droplets of a certain size. This would make sense because when I did hear the "whoosh", I was lying on my back on the dewy grass. I've also read that wireframe glasses can account for the simultaneous sound.

  • by Pvt_Ryan (1102363) on Monday July 07, 2008 @11:42AM (#24084465)
    Toot with this i can now insert the message "Sleep with me" in the heads of attractive women everywhere!!!

    Denise Richards & the olsen twins here I come..
  • scary. (Score:5, Insightful)

    by apodyopsis (1048476) on Monday July 07, 2008 @11:42AM (#24084467)
    remote torture anybody?

    imagine playing Cliff Richard to you victim incessantly. unable to sleep. unable to get away from it. all you need is somebody to point this thing at his head.

    imagine doing it at just enough of a low level so he is not aware of it.

    imagine jururs being threatened at long range. imagine blackmail from a distance.

    what if an unverifiable, untraceable voice announces in your ear "rob the bank or I shoot your wife", what would you do?

    this is damn scary, where is my magneto helmet?
    • Re:scary. (Score:5, Interesting)

      by Eudial (590661) on Monday July 07, 2008 @11:48AM (#24084567)

      imagine playing Cliff Richard to you victim incessantly. unable to sleep. unable to get away from it. all you need is somebody to point this thing at his head.

      Imagine the rick rolling possibilities. We're in for a world of pain if these things become available on the internet.

      On a more serious note, engineering and scientific work ethics? Does that at all exist anymore? I can't imagine anyone willingly developing a technology with so many malevolent uses. Didn't we learn anything from the Manhattan project?

    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by kalirion (728907)

      Could a microwave gun really hit a single head out of a crowd?

      • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

        by Anonymous Coward

        Could a microwave gun really hit a single head out of a crowd?

        It wouldn't be a gun, but a parabolic dish. A quick Google search on such dishes shows the main beam spread is 40 arc seconds, so you could get most of your energy onto a 40 cm head from 1 km away, but heads near the path would catch much radiation as well.

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by pxc (938367)

      what if an unverifiable, untraceable voice announces in your ear "rob the bank or I shoot your wife", what would you do?

      Don't react. If they believe they can't contact you, then they'll try something else to get whatever they want out of you before killing your wife. It will at least give you some awareness of the situation and probably buy your wife some more time.

    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by apodyopsis (1048476)
      I just thought of a few more - a tinnitus emulator - playing a barking dog at a cat to freak it - play a common mobile phone noise at a crowd, see who reaches for their pocket - or more disturbing, play the sound of a woman screaming - play a dog barking at a horse race to fix the finals really I think we are scratching the surface here, this is one deeply unethical product. who can think of some more?
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by xiando (770382)
      I do not need to imagine. The Norwegian government did this to me 2005-2006. I had to flee to Sweden. Norway is part of the NATO alliance and they do not accept that citizens talk about NATOs false-flag operations. And do not expect "magneto helmet" to help you. This technology is only a small extremely horrible part of the torture program they target "bad" citizens with. If you are targeted with this then your only real choice is to get your passport, find a country which is not in a deep military allianc
  • by dkleinsc (563838) on Monday July 07, 2008 @11:44AM (#24084493) Homepage

    Buy Lightspeed Briefs!

  • by MillionthMonkey (240664) on Monday July 07, 2008 @11:48AM (#24084553)

    "...These are not the droids we're looking for."

    You weak minded fool! He's got a Jedi mind gun!"

  • by smooth wombat (796938) on Monday July 07, 2008 @11:54AM (#24084667) Homepage Journal

    Fry: So you're telling me they broadcast commercials into people's dreams?

    Leela: Of course.

    Fry: But how is that possible?

    Professor Farnsworth: It's very simple. The ad gets into your brain just like this liquid gets into this egg. [Holds up an egg and injects it with liquid from a syringe until the egg explodes.]

    Although, in reality, it's not liquid, but gamma radiation.

    Leela: Didn't you have ads in the 21st century?

    Fry: Well sure, but not in our dreams. Only on TV and radio, and in magazines, and movies, and at ball games... and on buses and milk cartons and t-shirts, and bananas and written on the sky. But not in dreams, no siree.

  • by grassy_knoll (412409) on Monday July 07, 2008 @11:59AM (#24084757) Homepage

    Heck, combine it with some prerecorded messages and parents will snap these up "for the children".

    Top sellers could be:

    • clean your room
    • take the trash out
    • study more

    All with constant repetition which only ends when the desired action is performed.

    ... yes it's a joke. I hope.

  • Just what we need (Score:4, Insightful)

    by damburger (981828) on Monday July 07, 2008 @12:00PM (#24084773)
    Another way for marketing wankstains to pollute our heads with their psychologically manipulate garbage. Hopefully the powers that be will see the strong public interest argument in not using this to beam 'important messages' into peoples heads.
  • by hyades1 (1149581) <hyades1@hotmail.com> on Monday July 07, 2008 @12:02PM (#24084799)

    OK, I can deal with the fact that the Tinfoil Hat people have been right all along. Fine. I apologize for some of the unkind things I've said about them.

    But dammit, I'm NOT going to start being nice to all the Moonbats, People Who Live In Their Parents' Basements, Loons, Head Cases, Half-wits, Technophobes, Technophiles, UFO Abductees, Conspiracy Nuts, Jerks, Berks and Wanna-be Captain Kirks just because, like a broken clock, they might manage to be right twice a day.

    I mean it!

  • Hypersonic Sound (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Jizzbug (101250) on Monday July 07, 2008 @12:08PM (#24084869)

    These sound like HSS speakers, which use ultrasonic carrier waves to demodulate sound when the frequencies come into contact with flesh and bone.

    http://www.atcsd.com/site/ [atcsd.com]

    And friend of mine has a couple of these speakers. We recently used them at an art opening to beam the music of the primes into people's heads (playing the digital root of each prime number through a hexatonic scale, rests in the music were created by the occurrence of the primes in the digital-roots matrix we used to develop our own unique prime number sieve).

  • by mandark1967 (630856) on Monday July 07, 2008 @12:29PM (#24085215) Homepage Journal

    Ken! This is Jesus. Stop touching yourself!

    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by BadMrMojo (767184)

      It was Kent but yeah. Exactly where my mind was going with it, too.

      "Look, it was hot and I was hungry..."

  • Bummer (Score:5, Interesting)

    by CODiNE (27417) on Monday July 07, 2008 @12:40PM (#24085411) Homepage

    As a deaf guy it saddens me when tech like this is used for military purposes and it's consumer uses are not considered.

    Remember the thing where you put the transmitter on your tongue and you can hear bypassing the ears? I'd like to try one of those. But rather than look like a drooling idiot I'd love to get my hands on one of these babies. Just strap it on a hearing aid and skip the ears entirely. Way better than a cochlear implant, non-invasive and perfect sound. Nice.

  • by fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) on Monday July 07, 2008 @12:53PM (#24085633) Journal
    There are all kinds of quips about tinfoil hats and paranoia to be made on this one. Trouble is, think about what that means. We are living a tinfoil hatter's paranoid fantasy, it just happens to all be true.

    Massive wiretapping? Check.
    Ubiquitous surveillance? Check.
    Substantial expansion of state power? Check.
    Secret prisons and disappearances? Check.
    Directed energy weapons (both pain and sound)? Check.
    Classified laws? Check.
    Mercenaries who answer to no law?? Check.

    Seriously. They still have some really wacky ones about reptoids and masons and things; but much of conspiracy lore is so common that it doesn't even make the front pages anymore. The joke is on us.
  • by swschrad (312009) on Monday July 07, 2008 @01:14PM (#24085975) Homepage Journal

    The Voices are strong, they drown out all other sounds.

  • by johnrpenner (40054) on Monday July 07, 2008 @02:36PM (#24087097) Homepage

    just what we need - advertising with no volume control,
    and no way to turn it off. :-P

  • by kent_eh (543303) on Monday July 07, 2008 @04:52PM (#24089261)
    wearable Faraday cages [lessemf.com] are the new fashion statement.

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