The Phoenix Has Landed 369
Iddo Genuth writes "Precisely at 7:53PM EST, the "Phoenix Mars Lander" touched-down on the desert-like surface of Mars. Since its launch on August 4th, 2007, the spacecraft has covered more than 680,752,512 kilometers, traveling at average speeds of around 120,000 km/hr. Upon arriving at its destination, the Phoenix will begin its exploration of our intriguing neighbor planet, in a mission to help astronomers resolve at least some of the many questions regarding Mars. The key question remains: can the Red Planet support some form of life?" Hella grats to our nerd brethren — you looked great on the Science channel. Yes I'm watching this live. Can't wait to see what happens next.
Update: 05/26 03:0 GMT by KD : zof sends a link to the first pictures from Phoenix.
Update: 05/26 03:0 GMT by KD : zof sends a link to the first pictures from Phoenix.
Re:Doesn't even have to be live life... (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:live (Score:5, Insightful)
All in all, it does my heart well to see such mainstream coverage of the event. My parents, who are sort of aloof to anything scientific, are even paying attention to it on the 24 hour news. It's these sort of things turning into moments that reach across all of society that inspire new generations of kids to become scientists.
Re:Doesn't even have to be live life... (Score:5, Insightful)
Congratulations... (Score:4, Insightful)
It's going to be an eventful summer here on Earth, that's for sure.
What gets me is... (Score:5, Insightful)
Great job, JPL & Arizona!
Junkyboy55 (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:"Precisely?" (Score:1, Insightful)
Re:Enormous congratulations to them all (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Amazing how short sighted ppl are (Score:2, Insightful)
No we weren't [youtube.com].
Re:live (Score:5, Insightful)
So they can shit bricks for 7 minutes as their billion-dollar experiment and paycheck hang in the balance? It's one thing to watch on CNN from the comfort of your big fluffy chair, but remember these people had their asses on the line. People lost their jobs when the Polar Lander crashed in the 90's.
Re:Doesn't even have to be live life... (Score:3, Insightful)
Or science, if there is an agreement that Mars could had never sustained complex/big lifeforms.
Or, as someone else suggested, math, because we beat badly the odds of finding something life related doing a relatively very short trip in something that looks more like a desert than a jungle (well, in this case we will go back to religion very soon).
Re:Enormous congratulations to them all (Score:5, Insightful)
"Oh, other than the feeling of putting people on another country, what's the point?"
It's attitudes like this, that are so very narrow and shallow minded that cause people to become insular and think only of their own back yard in all affairs.
Other than the scientific achievements in doing this, there is the overall good it does to the human spirit to see ourselves as a race be able to conquer the distances, to think of a huge problem like this and surmount it with science.
If it encourages kids to do more in the way of science rather than religious persecution etc., I'm all for it.
Re:NASA web site (Score:4, Insightful)
I'm pretty sure it's not champagne parties for 2 hours before someone says "Hey, lets update the website guys!"
Re:Pictures (Score:2, Insightful)
Hmmm. It does have the polygons predicted [slashdot.org] from orbiter photos, but they are kind of dome-like rather than flat cracked plates like a dry lake bed. Thus, it's "domey" polygons.
But they obviously succeeded in landing in a mostly boulder-free area. If it landed on a big boulder, it could easily end the mission. During the Viking days, they didn't have the resolution to check for large boulders, and about 30 feet from the Viking 1 lander was an SUV-sized boulder. Pathfinder didn't have that knowledge either; but because it used airbags, it was more likely to come to rest between boulders (although landing on a "spike" edge could have burst the bags).
Re:Enormous congratulations to them all (Score:3, Insightful)
Once technology matures to a similar point, then I'm all for sending people to Mars.
The problem is the way such things are handled, with a political motive, we're more likely to have point solutions than real sustainable one. So then in the long run we end up having to reinvent the wheel (albeit with some previous learnings), because the original solution is not applicable for widespread use.
I doubt a Mars mission will have nearly the same cultural effect as the moon landing. Instead of showing kids a great achievement, spend only a fraction of the $80B it will cost to go to Mars and make them part of one. Sponsor student projects that actually would get launched into space, fund scholarships for space tourism trips.
My point is why spend so many resources to hurry up and wait (40 years later we still haven't returned to the moon), when those resources could more efficiently be used with a steady path of advancement. We'd get a lot more mileage enabling private sector space travel, and travel to the moon a regular basis, than a single sexy mission to Mars.
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Re:Doesn't even have to be live life... (Score:3, Insightful)
It is much easier, and you get better science, to use a monochrome camera and throw different filters in front of it. Besides, you can get color by adding the right filters together.
Re:lander, not rover (Score:3, Insightful)
Decades? Centuries? Even assuming they'd survive that long, those little rovers aren't very fast. Less than walking speed even when operational, and they have to hibernate every winter. And their point of view is low enough they'd be doubling back a lot, I'd imagine.
Re:EXACTLY. (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:How about telling us how many miles? (Score:3, Insightful)
I can't tell if this satire or if the local Honkey Tonk kicked out all the philosophical regulars early. Just in case it's the latter, metrics are standard in science. Yes, even for Americans.
Better check your griddle, I think your Freedom Fries are burning.
Re:How about telling us how many miles? (Score:2, Insightful)
DISCLAIMER: I lived in a metricated country, so the measurements don't bother me at all.