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Kimchi in Space 270

rtknox00 writes "For astronauts spending months in space, the smallest touch of home can make a big difference. So when South Korea's first astronaut Ko San boards the International Space Station this April he'll be bringing along a hefty supply of kimchi, the national dish of his native country. While bringing a cherished food on a long journey might seem like a simple act, taking kimchi into space required millions of dollars in research and years of work." Science may never get Thorramatur in orbit.
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Kimchi in Space

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  • Ehe Future (Score:4, Interesting)

    by pizzach ( 1011925 ) <pizzachNO@SPAMgmail.com> on Monday February 25, 2008 @12:11PM (#22546418) Homepage
    I can't wait until we see kimchi commercialized in this new form. Maybe it will be something like instant ramen noodle is to us now?
  • Re:Fresh Kimchi? (Score:4, Interesting)

    by wodgy7 ( 850851 ) on Monday February 25, 2008 @12:26PM (#22546634)
    Believe it or not, those kind of high-tech kimchi refrigerators are *huge* in Korea now. They're pretty much the #1 "must have" home appliance in Korea. There's a good Wikipedia article: Kimchi fridge [wikipedia.org]
  • Re:kimchi (Score:3, Interesting)

    by gnick ( 1211984 ) on Monday February 25, 2008 @12:30PM (#22546680) Homepage

    The Japanese have long called the Koreans garlic eaters as a derogatory name. (There's no love lost between the Koreans and the Japanese. Their mutual animosity goes back at least a thousand years.)
    That's true. But, from what I've seen, the Japanese call most people who are not Japanese derogatory names [wikipedia.org]...
  • by smooth wombat ( 796938 ) on Monday February 25, 2008 @12:44PM (#22546898) Journal
    where the ever diligent Frank Burns saw some Koreans burying mines or bombs in a field near their base. He went out with metal detectors and a few helpers to find and remove these nefarious devices. Hawkeye and B.J. tagged along to see how things went.

    Needless to say, Frank finds one of these bombs and uncovers it. As he's standing there practically gloating to Hawkeye about being right, Hawkeye promptly opens the top, to Frank's evident distress, at which point a pungent odor wafts into the air. Hawkeye then lets Frank in on what's been happening and explains these are kim-chi pots the villagers are burying.

    Funny what one can learn from watching t.v.
  • Re:Awesome! (Score:5, Interesting)

    by stuntpope ( 19736 ) on Monday February 25, 2008 @01:00PM (#22547156)
    I recently read an article about a famous western chef who spends a lot of time in Korea, who tries to popularize Korean cuisine and use its influences in his cooking.

    He was blunt about kimchi, stating that Koreans need to stop touting kimchi as their finest example of cuisine and westerners' first introduction to Korean food. Instead, they should focus on other Korean delicacies that are more likely to be agreeable to western palettes. If kimchi is the first Korean thing westerners eat, many will stop there and won't bother trying Korean food again. I know Koreans really love their kimchi, but it really is a very different taste for Americans. Nothing like a bowl of garlic and onion kimchi for breakfast, yum... Not!
  • Re:kimchi (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 25, 2008 @01:05PM (#22547234)
    Ahh, that's the problem. You're getting the canned stuff. Avoid canned kraut and get the stuff in bags. Much much higher quality.
  • by tompaulco ( 629533 ) on Monday February 25, 2008 @01:22PM (#22547490) Homepage Journal
    My wife is Korean, and she can't stand to be away from Korean food. We live in the U.S., but have a couple of Korean marts around and so she generally eats Korean food about 80% of the time at home. When we go camping, she takes Korean food. When we go on vacation, she can maybe go 4 days without, but by the 5th day, we have to find a Korean restaurant. Paris wasn't so bad, as there were a few Korean restaurants to choose from. There was only one on Kauai, though.
    I used to like most kinds of Korean food, but after having so much of it for so many years, I've gotten burned out on it, and now the only things I like are the pul-go-gi and the gal-bi. Imagine the l as sounding more like a single syllable lr, and the g sounding both like a g and a k, and that should give you an idea how it sounds.
  • by vorlich ( 972710 ) on Monday February 25, 2008 @01:39PM (#22547746) Homepage Journal
    Add Jack Daniels, that way you render two drinks of questionable palate into a passable embrocation. It's off topic, I know, but hey this is slashdot and they are brands on par with Microsoft.
  • by Valdrax ( 32670 ) on Monday February 25, 2008 @01:57PM (#22548048)
    Err... Read the title of his post. He's not talking about Kimchi. I'm guessing that he's talking about Thorramtur [wikipedia.org] since the word he used shared a lot of the same letters, only the first character didn't show up because it's a thorn and not a "th".

    And if you'll read the Wikipedia article about it, you'll see what he's talking about. I think I just about lost my appetite for lunch after reading that. Good Lord, what people used to eat when they were poor and had to make use of the whole animal! I mean, it's like reading something out of a Jack Vance book -- and not the gourmet scenes, but the ones where Cudgel has to "make do" with what he can get.
  • by davidsyes ( 765062 ) on Monday February 25, 2008 @02:00PM (#22548096) Homepage Journal
    and Jafiwam for injecting some sense into the thread.

    I eat gimchi, and I like it, a LOT. I used to like the sweetened version, but after being unable to find it in restaurants in SF/Bay Area (outside of Ran Du, in Stockton, CA, run by a Chinese woman who grew up in Korea), I had to accept the more sour/pungent variety. Now, when I eat my Shin Ramyun, I sometimes put in several spoonsful of gimchi and the spicy tofu or spicy soybean and an egg.

    I don't often burp or fart from eating gimchi. If the astronauts eat enough of it prior to blastoff (no pun intended) their systems might acclimate to mitigate expulsion of gas. Probably some antacid, or Mountain Tea (Greek OR Chinese varieties) might soothe the acidic effects and affects.

    I suspect many of the "funny" comments here come from those who hardly eat or never tried gimchi. In a pinch, or on a regular diet, gimchi is a massive helluva lot better and more nutritious than most of the chemically treated garbage in our US diet. I'll stake my health on that.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kimchi [wikipedia.org]

    I wonder if natto has been to space yet, but:

    http://www.japanfile.com/modules/smartsection/item.php?itemid=462 [japanfile.com]

    "The natto bean is a nutritional dynamo. For every 100 grams consumed, you are filling your body with 16.5 g of protein, 10.0 g of fats, 9.8 g of sugar, 2.3 g of fiber, and 1.9 g of ash for a total of 2,000 kilocalories. To say nothing of the host of vitamins and minerals you are getting: 0.07 milligrams of B1, 0.56 mg of B2, 1.1 mg of niacin, 90 mg of calcium, 190 mg of phosphorous, 3.3 mg of iron, 2 mg of sodium, 660 mg of potassium, and absolutely no cholesterol. There is more. Natto contains all eight of the necessary amino acids not produced by the human body as well as essential fatty acids like linoleic acid and enzymes that aid digestion. All of this has earned natto the respectful moniker of hatake no niku (field meat)."

    More at:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natto [wikipedia.org]

    http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/natto [wiktionary.org]

    A Japanese friend introduced me to natto, and he sorta smugly (or I mistook his voice or facial expression) suggested that I won't be able to eat it. I asked if it were meat or some vegetable. He again stated he thought I would not be able to eat it. So, he nuked it, and I ate it with the mustard and soy sauce, and he went "Hmmph", smiled, and was pleased.

    However, I would not recommend fry-heating natto on a domed/covered skillet -- unless you don't mind the "aroma" nearly-instantly permeating EVERY garment or cloth in your home or apartment. Well, if you want to offend or seek revenge, then steam/fry or steam-nuke a few small servings. You'll wake up your neighbors in the building...

    Gimchi AND natto should should be fast-tracked not only for spacefarer consumption, but also for consumption in more restaurants.
  • Re:Great idea (Score:1, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 25, 2008 @02:55PM (#22548888)
    it obviously has a smell but I've never heard anyone complain about it. I can't imagine what kind of white-bread Twinkie-eating motherfucker you must be, to have only tried it once, and thought it was so revolting.

    I eat Kimchee and like it.. Korean food is one of my top favorites.

    BUT... once upon a time I worked at Ford and there was this Korean guy one aisle over in cubicle land. When he uncorked his kimchee at lunch it made my eyes water from 20 feet away! It actually made some of us nauseous. We'd go stand at the end of our aisle for a breath and people would walk by and give us dirty looks (I'm sure we had that "I didn't fart!" look).

    I guess he had the real deal from home and that it was much stronger than the stuff commonly served at Korean restaurants. So I can understand the confusion when some folks are saying it just doesn't smell that bad. A few of us finally had to complain to facilities because it really was disruptive. They asked me if I'd spoken with him about it and I had to reply "No. Can you imagine his breath?"

    Of course now that my palette has matured I'd probably ask him for some...
  • Re:Awesome! (Score:4, Interesting)

    by G-funk ( 22712 ) <josh@gfunk007.com> on Monday February 25, 2008 @06:55PM (#22551926) Homepage Journal
    Huh? I'm white as, and I love Kimchi. If Kimchi is the essence of Korean food, then it should be part of anybody's introduction to Korean food. Maybe Americans could just branch the fuck out, instead of trying to "westernise" their experience of other peoples' cultures. If you don't actually want to eat foreign food because it might be "icky" then don't. What's the point of having some dumbed down version?

    Now, have a slice of vegemite on toast ya girls ;-)

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