The Role of Retroviruses in Human Evolution 133
mhackarbie writes "The current edition of the New Yorker magazine has up a story about endogenous retroviruses in the genomes of humans and other species. Although researchers have known about such non-functional retroviral 'fossils' in the human genome for some time, the large amount of recent genomic data underscores just how pervasive they are, in a compelling tale that involves humans, their primate cousins, and a variety of viral invaders. Some researchers are even bringing back non-functional viral remnants from the dead by fixing their broken genes."
Bringing back the dead? (Score:3, Interesting)
So what you're saying is we will now have zombie viruses?
Re:Oh no! (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Bringing back the dead? (Score:1, Interesting)
Hmm (Score:5, Interesting)
How do we know the the retrovirus genome didn't originate with the hosts themselves? Did these viruses evolve truly independently, or might they have started out as fragments of genetic code from some larger organism which somehow escaped and became self-sufficient?
In other words, when we look at the human genome and say, "This is riddled with retroviruses!" is it not possible that the retroviruses were actually there all along, and only later became able to leave the parent cell and operate independently?
Are retroviruses actually just chunks of "rebel DNA" from our own genome, or possibly from some other species?
Aaargh, learn to use the preview button (Score:4, Interesting)
Is what I meant to say.
Re:Hmm (Score:5, Interesting)
A 'rebel DNA leaving home' must have happened at least once, in some species, otherwise how could viruses exist? They seem way too complex to have happened by chance, and they can't evolve until they are complex enough to infect.
Re:Bringing back the dead? (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:Hmm (Score:5, Interesting)
Cambrian explosion? (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Hmm (Score:3, Interesting)
My impression is that bacteria are in the habit of absorbing random fragments of DNA from their environment. I can see where some accident would cause such a fragment to carry the instruction 'replicate me' and little else, thus making things interesting. So not so much leaving home as taking it over destructively. Throw in billions of years and trillions of organisms and it starts to get a little ridiculous trying to make any guesses at all.
Re:Bringing back the dead? (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Oh no! (Score:3, Interesting)
If we "fix that part where they're drug resistant", it would make no difference, unless we could eliminate those viruses in the first place. It's like trying to populate the world with only mice that were more likely to get caught in traps. It would only be possible if we could eliminate all the mice in the world, and then introduce these 'dumb' mice into the wild. What's the point of repopulating the world with dumb mice if we didn't want mice in the first place?
Second of all, if you read the article, you would know how the researchers 'fixed' the 'broken' viruses:
Lastly, and not that it will necessarily assuage your fears, but a species that carries an endogenous retrovirus in its genome is far less likely to be infected by that virus. Some developmental biologists employ a well-characterized and naturally occurring chicken retrovirus, engineering it to misexpress a normal chicken gene of their choice. This way, they can see what happens if they express that gene everywhere within a developing organ, as opposed to the normal expression of the gene only within a small population of cells within that organ. (As an example, they are studying gene X, which plays a role in bone development, and is only expressed in cells that will become bone cells. They make a chicken retrovirus that also expresses gene X, and infect the wing of a developing chicken. Now all the cells in the wing express gene X, and not just those that were going to become bone cells.) In order to do this, these researchers must use eggs from chickens that do not carry endogenous copies of this virus in their genome. Eggs from chickens that carry endogenous copies of this naturally-occurring retrovirus in their genome are far less susceptible to infection by the engineered virus, and therefore are not experimentally useful. Such endogenous retrovirus-free chickens were specially bred.
Sure, there are always potential risks from any type of science. But it is important to know how risky something is, and weigh that versus the potential benefits.
Re:Cambrian explosion? (Score:3, Interesting)
I don't see those as a significant trigger mechanism. Early Cambrian fish hardly had any bones, I would note. And there's now plenty of soft-body precambrian fossils such that we know soft bodies existed in relative abundance at that time. They just lacked many features we take for granted, such as eyes, mouths, digestive tracks, and limbs; and don't seem to match up well with Cambrian-and-forward life.
Re:Cambrian explosion? (Score:2, Interesting)
For one, early life was simpler such that foreign genes may have been easier to integrate. Second, I've read that it appears that the mammilian placentia may have "learned" how to share life-giving fluids between baby and mother without the immune system complaining via a virus that knew how to disable the immune system for its own needs. I'll see if I can find the article. It was fascinating.
This sounds like some wishful thinking do you have any references?
No, its just speculation, as is all C.E. theories at this point.
Re:Cambrian explosion? (Score:2, Interesting)
Most authors seem to disagree, at least for bilatera. The best candidate is Kimberella, a possible mollusk matched largely because of the "teeth" scrape marks found near fossils. The others have very uncertain relationships. Spriggina, for example, could be an arthropod, annelid (of earth-worm fame), or even a chordate ancestor, among other candidates.
RNA world? Or are seeing the history backwards? (Score:2, Interesting)
But I'm probably misunderstanding everything I read today.
My personal opinion?
I remember playing with a 6802 prototyping board with a flaky power-on reset circuit. (I used cheap switches from Radio Shack.) It had a monitor ROM, of course, then later it had BASIC in ROM. If power came up too fast, the ROM would not be ready to put the reset vector on the bus, and the CPU would jump somewhere else. Sometimes, if the reset button worked, I could look at RAM, and I would find bits and pieces of the ROM sitting out there. Until the thing stabilized, sometimes it was not particular interesting, but sometimes it would dump almost intelligible strings, or even clots of error messages or the symbol tables into video RAM.
I had read, at the time, about how computers with disk drives had to have good power-on reset circuits, or had to be booted up with no media in the drives, and media loaded after the operator stabilized the CPU. Otherwise, the disk drives would tend to get told to write random data on the disks, which, of course, kind of ruins the whole purpose of having disks.
I had also read that (some of?) the first computer viruses were inspired by some of the junk that was left in memory by such episodes of uncontrolled execution.
So I have tended to wonder whether it might not be the case that viruses are not some independent remnants of proto-life, but are rather the results of genetic accidents.
I'm not sure we could tell the difference from looking at the archeological record.
But it's interesting that one of the biologists the friendly article quotes made a comment that almost equated viruses with God.