Brains Hard-Wired for Math 246
mcgrew writes "New Scientist is reporting that "non-human primates really can understand the meaning of numerals." The small study of two rhesus monkeys reveals that cells in their brains respond selectively to specific number values — regardless of whether the amount is represented by dots on a screen or an Arabic numeral. For example, a given brain cell in the monkey will respond to the number three, but not the number one. The results suggest that individual cells in human brains might also have a fine-tuned preference for specific numerical values." The report itself is online at PLoS Biology, Semantic Associations between Signs and Numerical Categories in the Prefrontal Cortex."
Numbers or numerals? (Score:5, Insightful)
To say that nonhuman primates respond to numerals makes it sound like they evolved to benefit from written language, which would be kinda weird, ya know.
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Re:Numbers or numerals? (Score:3, Insightful)
Oh, come on.
Unless they're proposing that Arab numerals are directly, non-symbolically related to the numerical concepts they represent, the only thing they've proved is that yay, primates are capable of learning some symbols.
If the same neurons react to quantity(3) and to symbol(3) with no previous training, then this discovery will revolutionize our schooling systems, not to mention cognitive science, semiotics and linguistics.
If, on the other hand, this included some training beforehand, then I fail to see what's the big deal.
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True, but that's not the impressive thing. The article points out: The "numeral" aspect is significant. It's one thing to recognize the one-to-one correspondence between five dots and five apples, but quite another to identify the written digit "5" as representing five of anything.
Abstracting numbers into digits, or phonetic sounds into letters, is a complicated leap that isn't necessarily built-in to the brain. Humans do it all the time, but many cultures in the past and present do just fine without developing written language or numbers, suggesting it's not innate to the brain.
I take exception to this, though: Counting to nine is one thing, since each number has a unique digit. Grasping the concepts behind multi-digit base-ten numbers is one of the first steps toward real mathematics, and I imagine monkeys would need a lot more training to handle that.