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Super Pathway Discovered In Southern Ocean 167

WaltonNews writes in to let us know that a major underwater current called the Tasman Outflow has been discovered by Australian scientists. It helps to regulate the Earth's climate by providing water flow between three oceans in the southern hemisphere. Relatedly, a senior climate scientist has called for the establishment of a Southern Hemisphere network of deep ocean moorings, to complement the network already established in the North Atlantic. The intent is to detect any change in ocean circulation that may adversely influence global climate.
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Super Pathway Discovered In Southern Ocean

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  • by WindBourne ( 631190 ) on Friday August 17, 2007 @04:11PM (#20266993) Journal
    Nearly all of the major news reporters are simply trying to make big headlines (save for several which have their own agenda's). All will spin in to suite their purpose. A good example was back in the 70's, a scientist say that climate change WAS happening and suggested that it COULD lead to global cooling. From that, a number of the articles came out that pushed that. So, quite paying attention there.

    Pay attention to what the real scientist are saying directly. Get past what fox news and oil companies have to say. Listen to the top ones (such as Dr. Hansen who is one of thousands ) and even ones like Dr Grey ( from Colo State, who is one of the very few accredited skeptics). It is a good thing to pay attention to both sides, just skip the garbage.
  • Re:Adverse changes? (Score:5, Informative)

    by Elemenope ( 905108 ) on Friday August 17, 2007 @04:13PM (#20267013)

    Hey guys, it is mid-August in what was supposed to be a record hurricane season. No storms yet.

    Apparently you do not live in Texas, where Hurricane Dean (the fourth named storm of the season) is about to hit. But hey, don't let facts get in the way of a good story.

  • by yintercept ( 517362 ) on Friday August 17, 2007 @04:36PM (#20267383) Homepage Journal

    desalinzation on a massive scale, we could pump billions of gallons of water inland into the continents of Africa and Asia.

    The efforts you suggest would change the climate. The climate change debate says that we need to stop change. It does not say that we need to work on technologies to make our lives better. If a place was covered with a glacier in 1976, then it needs to be covered with a glacier in 2076. If a place was covered with a barren desert in 1976, it needs to be covered with a desert in 2176.

    Everything needs to stay the same. And it will stay the same, if we just moved real slow.

  • by DragonWriter ( 970822 ) on Friday August 17, 2007 @06:46PM (#20268899)

    Obviously anyone talking about any so-called "ocean currents" affecting the Earth's climate is in the pocket of Chimpy McBushitler and his cronies in Big Oil. We all know that only SUVs, incandescent light bulbs, and not listening to Al Gore cause changes in climate.


    You know, lots of people are posting variations on this as if it were some kind of clever skewering of the Al Gore and others advocating policy change to address global warming, but all it really does is demonstrate that the people posting this and variations on it aren't paying attention; Al Gore and others taking similar positions point to climate engines like this (though not this particular one in the past, since it wasn't known, but the North Atlantic Current has always been pointed to) as areas of sensitivity because human-produced effects can change the conditions which make these systems operate the way they do, thus causing them to change how they operate, thus producing greater climate change than the human actions do more directly.

    The whole idea that there is some kind of binary dichotomy between human activity and natural processes influencing the environment, and that anyone pointing to the former is stating that the latter is not a factor is just bizarre. Its sort of like arguing, of a typical interactive software program, that the output must be produced by either the input or the executable code, but not the two working together.
  • Three words ... (Score:3, Informative)

    by Ex-MislTech ( 557759 ) on Friday August 17, 2007 @07:44PM (#20269577)
    Global Warming Swindle ....search for it on google video, watch it,
    learn a lot from "former" members of the IPCC.

  • Re:I call bullshit! (Score:3, Informative)

    by More Trouble ( 211162 ) on Saturday August 18, 2007 @12:24AM (#20272623)

    What about the "I'm an idiot who bought a car with a nickel metal-hydride battery which when refined produces shitloads of sulfer dioxide. But that's okay since carbon isn't present which makes everything fucking hunky-dory." crowd?
    You must be referring to the (totally spurious) article comparing the Prius with the Hummer, where the Hummer comes out as more environmentally friendly. Perhaps some further research [thecarconnection.com] is warranted?

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