Nicotine Is the New Wonder Drug 439
Fantastic Lad sends us to Wired for a story on the upside of nicotine. Researchers are developing drugs based on nicotine that may prove beneficial for brains, bowels, blood vessels and immune systems. "Nicotine acts on the acetylcholine receptors in the brain, stimulating and regulating the release of a slew of brain chemicals, including seratonin, dopamine and norepinephrine. Now drugs derived from nicotine and the research on nicotine receptors are in clinical trials for everything from helping to heal wounds, to depression, schizophrenia, Alzheimer's, Tourette Syndrome, ADHD, anger management and anxiety." A separate story talks about nicotine warding off Parkinson's disease.
Suspicious at best. (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:sweet! (Score:2, Interesting)
Whether or not it is politically correct to tout this information.. well, that's a different story.
Re:Suspicious at best. (Score:1, Interesting)
If the tobacco companies ignore research, marijuana might end up being the medicinal drug. And that's going to be a hard cash cow for a currently legal business to milk.
The real problem (Score:5, Interesting)
better than SSRI? (Score:5, Interesting)
I stopped seeing him. I was looking into 'legal' highs for depression, such as St. John's Wort and
Since I also had problems concentrating, I tried smoking for the nicotine. I found that it really helped with my anxiety. I took a smoke after work, I relaxed, and then moved my bowels. I felt calm and focused rather than frenzied and harried. Things were right on course instead of all over the place. I've since given it up, however, since I started coughing.
I know smoking destroys your lungs gives you cancer after decades. My maternal grandparents died of cancers in their 60s, probably from smoking. All the people I try to turn on to smoking tell me that. But what are the long-term effects of taking anti-depression or anti-anxiety medication for decades.
It seems to me that cigarettes are a relatively cheap and simple anti-depressant. Although there are long term health consequences, we don't really know what the damage is from decades of wellbutrin. Of course, Big Pharma would rather have us rely on them for anti-depressants than use a simple plant that we could grow ourselves... Hey, that sounds familiar.
Oh ya... (Score:3, Interesting)
Extract the same stuff, put it in pills and tablets, and sell it for a bajillion more, it's medicine.
Re:Nicotine and bowels (Score:1, Interesting)
Re:Oh great (Score:5, Interesting)
But, you are right, the real danger with smoking is, well, smoking all the other shit that's in cigarettes - the nicotine is a secondary concern. The danger of the nicotine in cigarettes is the fact that it keeps you addicted.
Re:Suspicious at best. (Score:1, Interesting)
I worked in one of the small biotechs that do research in the field, an I can say you that, yes, nicotine could be a good "weapon" for some targets.
But when you smoke, it's like to take a bullet's box and put it on fire, while using nicotine it's to take one single bullet, charge your sniper rifle... press your right mouse button and.. you know
Very naif, maybe, but I suggest to my father (an ol'penitent smoker since almost 30 years) to use once or two in a weak the nicotine patches, as a kind of prevention. At least, there are no serious side-effects with such a low dosage.
Anyway, nicotine is one of the many natural compounds that are active in our organism... Again, there are a kind of "receptors" (proteins) that have been characterized by nicotine itself (nicotinic receptors, see in the links).
Finally, as well as water, the "dose" is essential.
eNjoy
Re:better than SSRI? (Score:3, Interesting)
Not that that's as much fun as smoking. I gave it up for my health, but I loved every butt I ever smoked. If I'm ever diagnosed with a terminal disease, I'm gonna start right up again. (Probably drink more, too.)
Re:Suspicious at best. (Score:3, Interesting)
Not exclusively nicotine. They sell an image. Nicotine is just a nice side effect that keeps people physically addicted to their stuff.
Re:Suspicious at best. (Score:2, Interesting)
We're not sure why he did this but this morning I saw a large bill board advert which claims that there's more chemicals in a cigarette than in car exhaust fumes. I think my friend might have been led to believe that this meant car exhaust fumes were better for you than cigarettes, with, obviously, tragic consequences.
If this is the case I think his memorial foundation may well be suing the government soon for playing a major part in his death.
Tourettes (Score:3, Interesting)
Then on some forum advice I tried a nicotine patch. Within an hour it had a noticeable affect, and within 3 hours there was an almost complete reduction in symptoms. I also found it had a similar affect with OCD and ADD (Although I'm not formally diagnosed with the latter, I found I could concentrate far better with a nicotine patch)
Looks like the old studies have been refuted. (Score:3, Interesting)
Looks like some advice I got from my grandmother's doctor years ago was wrong. Even though chewing tobacco doubles the risk of heart disease, apparently nicotine patches and gum have not been shown to significantly raise the risk of heart disease. I always assumed that was the fault of stimulant abuse, but it seems that patch-delivered nicotine does not raise the risk in spite of causing blood vessel constriction.
Her doctor may have not been grossly misinformed -- studies in the early 90s pointed to a link, but follow-up studies has disproved it. However, all "direct from the tobacco" methods of delivery still do raise the risk, so my main point about the development of nicotine-derived drugs not making smoking safe still holds.
Re:Oh great (Score:3, Interesting)
That's right. News flash to Slashdot, nicotine != cigarettes. Every time nicotine comes up, people think it causes lung cancer or heart disease or other ridiculous things. No, smoking causes those. Nicotine doesn't. In fact, some benefits of nicotine have been known for a long time. Of course it's an effective stimulant and makes people feel good. It can make people work more productively. But more importantly, it's strongly protective [scienceagogo.com] against some terrible, high incidence neurodegenerative diseases, like Parkinson's Diseases and Alzheimer's. All that's already fairly well established.
So don't smoke, because inhaling smoke every day will kill you. The downside of nicotine is that it's addictive, but otherwise, it might be quite healthy.
Many smokers try to quit with the patch or the gum. They successfully get off cigarettes with their nicotine supplement, but then when they try to quit the supplement, they relapse into smoking. The clear solution here for protecting their health is this: don't try to quit the supplement. If you relapse when you quit the supplement, give up on ditching nicotine, it's not bad for you anyway, and may be pretty good for you. Ditch the cigarettes, stay on the nicotine supplement for the rest of your life.
Re:'medicine' (Score:2, Interesting)
When opium was found to be harmul, 'refined' opium (aka morphine) was developed, and found to have positive uses (cure for opium and alcohol addition.)
When morphine was found to be harmful, 'refined' morphine (aka heroin) was developed, and found to have positive uses (childrens' cough syrup!)
Recently, when nicotine was found to be harmful, 'refined' nicotine was developed, and found to be effective on people suffering from ADHD, Alzheimers', anxiety, schizophrenia, and anger management.
Exams (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Nicotene may have it's uses... (Score:2, Interesting)
Since when was nicotine bad for you? (Score:3, Interesting)
Nicotine is one of the least dangerous ingredients of tobacco smoke. People think nicotine is this horrible thing. Granted, it is somewhat addictive, but not terribly addictive. I say that as someone who's smoked for over 20 years and has tried to quit a number of times. I can easily break the "nicotine addiction" aspect of it. That only takes a couple days. It's the habit of smoking that's a bitch. I can go without nicotine for weeks or months (well beyond the time it takes to break the addiction), but it's the psychological habit I can't seem to kick.
Nicotine has a number of pharmacological properties that can be beneficial, however, so it's no surprise that nicotine derivatives might be found that can also have positive effects.
Re:The real problem (Score:3, Interesting)
Antidepressants don't make you artificially happy. The best evidence for this is that they have no street value - if they got you high, there would be a black market.
Addiction's like that. (Score:3, Interesting)
Biochemical dependence has a remarkable effect on the brain's perception of pleasure. I wonder if you'd find it at all fun if they made a nicotine-free cigarette. On the other hand, I'm pretty sure most nonsmokers (who do not have a baseline level of nicotine in their blood) would suddenly find nicotine patches to be "fun" if they used them for a week straight.
My point is, I'm not sure "fun" is the best word for the experience you had.
Re:Not Sure Why... (Score:2, Interesting)
I really cannot stress that enough. Toxicity is not a black or white, true or false; it is a scale. Furthermore, "toxic" is not mutually exclusive to "beneficial". Water is highly beneficial, though it can be toxic in quantity, or with additives (think salt water for a common example).
Personally, I smoked for 10 years, until it was becoming clear that the adverse effects on my lungs would make it foolish to continue. I don't have any lung disease, although I would never recommend anyone try (or continue) smoking for any reason. I recognize that people are free to make that decision for themselves, and that no amount of outside influence is likely to change their decision once it has been made. That aside, I quit nicotine completely for about 6 months. During those 6 months, I experienced significant weight gain, increased lethargy, and decreased mental acuity. Rather than start smoking again, I decided to try nicotine replacement products. Since I started taking them, I've found I become alert and fully awake more quickly in the morning, I eat less, and it has a beneficial effect during stressful situations. My personal favorite is the 2mg nicotine lozenge. I probably consume ~10-15/day, and unless I find research which shows that nicotine is specifically carcinogenic and/or that it has cumulative deleterious effects on the body, I have no plans to stop any time soon.
I would never suggest that anyone start taking nicotine (or any other drug) if they are perfectly functional without it, (recreational purposes aside) but I can say that it has had positive effects for me. I view it much like a cup of coffee or a Red Bull -- it's stimulating and allows me to be more alert and productive.