The Big Bang Vs. the Big Rumble 220
WBUR radio in Boston hosts a talk with two physicists, Alan Guth and Neil Turok, who represent, respectively, the consensus theory of the inflationary Big Bang and an upstart theory of the initiation of the universe in the collision of two three-dimensional "branes." Turok and Paul Steinhardt developed their "Ekpyrotic proposal" out of the mathematics behind string theory. In the audio the two physicists are perhaps more respectful of one another's views than the host wishes them to be. If you ignore the "let's you and him fight" framing of the debate, you will hear some interesting physics elucidated.
You are academically retarded (Score:5, Funny)
Re:You are academically retarded (Score:5, Funny)
Check.
Spaghetti (Score:3, Funny)
Neil Turok (Score:3, Funny)
In other news (Score:1, Funny)
Obviously (Score:3, Funny)
I believe that it's the King Jame's version.
Re:Obviously (Score:5, Funny)
I'm more interested in this. Could we have been misunderstanding zombies all this time?
If I only had a brane... (Score:3, Funny)
Spock's Brane (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Lay off the booze (Score:1, Funny)
String theory .... (Score:1, Funny)
They should've had the Uni of Kansas... (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Spock's Brane (Score:1, Funny)
Re:Inside/outside (Score:2, Funny)
Indeed that is true. The God who exists, as revealed to us in the Bible is the One who is outside of, apart from our time-space universe. Outside revelation, there is no way for any man to find out anything about how we got here and about the God who put us here. That is why all human speculations about origins, whether called science or religion are entertaining fiction. Now everyone has the choice to BELIEVE what God has revealed about Himself or not. Anyone may also believe the speculations of these scientists. However, as you stated insightfully, there is no way to KNOW for sure how it all began for anyone currently stuck INSIDE our time-space existence. All we can do right now is believe one thing or another. Everyone will know for sure when we all stand before the judgment seat of God.
Alan Guth (Score:3, Funny)
WBUR promised him a free lunch.
Re:Inside/outside (Score:3, Funny)
There are no LOGICAL reasons to BELIEVE the Bible. But then there are no logical reasons for any of the other beliefs either. Giving those or any beliefs a mathematical formula or calling them "science" doesn't change the fact that they are still only beliefs. There are very few so called "scientific" journals or articles that do NOT contain faith words. All of science, just like any other human activity is colored by our beliefs, our world view. The absence or presence of a belief in God is one foundational belief that determines everything in life. If there is no God, then there is no truth either, only 6 billion or so opinions. The majority doesn't hold a monopoly on truth either. History has shown that. All the majority can do and has ever done and can do, is to force their opinion down the throat of those who have different opinions.
You believe there is no afterlife and I believe that there will be an accounting for everybody. We will all find out whose belief was correct someday. I believe that the same mind that formulated the laws of physics, also made certain rules for humans. We cannot, ultimately choose which of these rules we wish to obey and which not.
In everything we humans do, we formulate these actions and designs first in our minds as concepts and ideas. A bridge or a computer chip begins its existence in one or more minds, sometimes long before it becomes physical reality. Is then so illogical that the universe and all life did not also have its beginning in a mind, one far greater than all human minds put together? Science is part of the fascinating quest to try and figure out how this reality we find ourselves in operates and originated. You KNOW that a computer chip came from a mind, even if you never met nor likely will never meet the one(s) in whose mind it was first conceived. You do not deny the existence of a mind behind a computer chip, but are you willing to deny that there is also a designer in whose mind the computer between your ears, your brain originated? In my thinking, such a denial is highly illogical.
In short, modern cosmological speculations are fun, just as the star wars movies are fun, but they are not logical.
Re:Non-cosmological redshift (Score:1, Funny)
Nonsense. The universe wsas created in a big bang, in what we call today a singularity, with all matter collapsed in the center of a black hole. So how does it scape the black hole? The big bang is so big that matter travels faster than light.
How does it travel faster than light? The universe expands.
THE UNIVERSE EXPANDS!!!
What does that really mean? I don't know, I suppose people think the universe is like a giant carpet, so even if you don't move, you move, because the carpet in which you are moves, and therefore Einstein was wrong and we can travel faster than light. Come on!
The whole theory of relativity was to refute the idea of the ether, supposedly the light was a wave in the ether. Now we camoe back to the idea of ether again (the carpet).
Everyone knows that time does not flow on the event horizon of the black hole. This means that if you fall into a black hole you would pass the event horizon in less than a second, but people would see you falling for eons and you would seem to have frozen. You would see the universe move faster and faster and you would see the end of it.
If time flows continuosly it means that inside the black hole the time flows in the opposite direction. This means time flows backwards, so if you could see inside a black hole, you would see things going into the center, but inside the black hole things move in the opposite direction.
That's why we see the universe expand.