Scientists Offer New Way to Read Online Text 404
An anonymous reader writes "Scientists at a small startup called Walker Reading Technologies in Minnesota have determined that the human brain is not wired properly to read block text. They have found that our eyes view text as if they're peering through a straw. Not only does your brain see the text on the line you're reading, but it's also uploading superfluous information from the two lines above and the two lines below. This causes your brain to engage in a tug of war as it fights to filter and ignore the noise. The result is slower reading speeds and decreased comprehension. The company has developed a product that automatically re-formats text in a way that your brain can more easily comprehend."
Low tech workaround (Score:5, Interesting)
Of course it drives anyone reading over my shoulder nuts....
Re:Scrolling (Score:2, Interesting)
If it was really better... (Score:5, Interesting)
Saw something similar before (Score:3, Interesting)
I was able to read quite a bit faster, but I did not have the money to spend on it at the time. I also wasn't sure how useful it would be outside of novels.
Slower reading speeds? (Score:5, Interesting)
WTF? This is how I've always done speed-reading...
Looks Like an Ad or Poster (Score:4, Interesting)
Less confusing? (Score:5, Interesting)
And what's the difference if my eyes are pulling words from the previous and next sentence or the pieces of the current one? It's still giving me information that I don't need -right now- in the sentence.
And the additional poem-like formatting is also confusing, as special formatting usually -means- something.
Training myself to read this, which is only used online and only if licensed by this company, would be a hassle. And used very little.
700 Words Per Minute (Score:4, Interesting)
In other words the effect that this process is fighting can be used to read much faster than most of us do. I can't do it for more than a few minutes but if you trained early enough or hard enough I think you could get there.
Re:If it was really better... (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Looks Like an Ad or Poster (Score:2, Interesting)
This would make an excellent teaching aid (Score:3, Interesting)
What I see in this new method of formatting is that the sentences are being being broken up very similar to how their natural spoken rhythm would flow, making it much easier for a struggling student to read aloud. It shouldn't be a crutch, but I can picture a kid being shown the entire written text, and then this version of it. Have the kid read the Live Ink version aloud into a microphone and play back the recording for him to hear how it sounds, then try to do that with the "normal" text.
This could really be something huge for education. I'm about to go talk to our special programs director about it, this looks like it could be very useful.
Read line by line? That's crazy slow (Score:3, Interesting)
You shouldn't be like a beginner reading one of those children's books with 3 words a page.
Learn to read stuff chunk by chunk - keep your eyes further away from the screen if the whole column is to wide to fit - that's why newsprint is in narrow columns. Most human eyes don't have a wide angle of view especially with those crappy blind spots.
Brains definitely can do parallel processing, and read multiple lines at a time. And brains can learn and adapt. Trust me, you do not want to adapt to reading like a beginner.
Often I can spot spelling mistakes after just a glance at an entire page of print - they just stick out. And sometimes at a glance, my brain notices that there's an unusual word somewhere, and I become aware of it, but just don't know where I saw it on the page (but just a brief search and I'll find it). I think there must be editors (real ones not slashdot ones) out there who do this much better.
In this day and age where there's lots of textual data I don't think it's a good idea to teach people to read stuff in a format where they have to keep doing "next page" every second.
Life is too short.
Newspapers (Score:3, Interesting)
to some degree.
They use narrow columns when
formatting their text so
people can read it faster.
Your fovias don't have
to bounce back and forth
as much.
Re:Slower reading speeds? (Score:3, Interesting)
I have also wired myself to read quickly for years; I probably do somewhat parallellize the processing of the sentences.
Re:Seuss - No, it's Code Formatting! (Score:5, Interesting)
(On the flip side, this seems to suggest that the engine needs to work entirely differently based on what language you're reading.)
I'm kind of impressed, actually, in that the engine makes any kind of text look and read like non-rhyming poetry, implying that poets figured this technique out centuries before anyone actually codified it.
Re:Slower reading speeds? (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:Dr. Seuss (Score:5, Interesting)
Their "revelation" about how the eyes scan a page is well known and understood in page design and layout. Also, the idea that the brain has to remove "clutter" from the surrounding words is false. The brain uses the pattern of the text above and below to help the eye scan back to the beginning of the line quickly. Also the brain interprets the surrounding text to get an earlier chance to parse what is coming. The line underneath is processed before it is consciously read, kind of a warm-up run.
Sadly I can't remember where I read this, or find a reference to it...
Re:Dr. Seuss (Score:5, Interesting)
No joke. For those of us aural thinkers, this is the most annoying presentation possible. You stop in the middle of a phrase. If they diced it up by phrases, it wouldn't be bad, but hearing the words "I think" followed by a pause while your eye scans down to the words "I can" in the next line.... It's worse than children's books. It is absolutely horrible for me to read those samples.
Here's a version of that paragraph rewritten in this style. Tell me if you have a harder time reading it.
No joke.
For those
of us aural thinkers,
this is
the most annoying presentation
possible.
You stop
in the middle
of a phrase.
If they
diced it up
by phrases,
it wouldn't be
bad,
but hearing the words
"I think"
followed by
a pause
while your eye
scans down
to the words
"I can"
in the next line....
It's worse
than children's books.
It is
absolutely horrible
for me
to read those samples.
Don't get me wrong, block text is hard to read, but this can be improved significantly through using fonts that are large enough to read, using a serif font to provide additional clues about letter shapes, leaving more space between lines, and limiting your paragraphs to no more than about three or four lines of text. You don't have to insult the intelligence of the reader to get a point across...
like my post
seems
to do,
but really
doesn't.
Let's write chinese (Score:2, Interesting)
Just my thoughts,
Re:Dr. Seuss (Score:3, Interesting)
The problem is, when it gets implemented on many websites, there will be loads of ads on either side of the text, completely distracting and ruining any advantage offered by the text format.
At least that is my fear based on my expectation that this method wouldn't work well when I read the summary. Whenever I see narrow columns of text now it's surrounded by distracting ads that make it more difficult to read.
Re:For me, the vertical text was awful (Score:5, Interesting)
Also, if you try to read
something that
is randomly
broken
along indeterminate
points in a sentence,
then it will be
much harder to
read than if it has
been dissected into
parts that pay attention
to the natural
breaks in the language.
I'm not sure that should have been rated "funny". (Score:3, Interesting)
I'm not sure that should have been rated "funny". I actually find the block text to be easier to read than the poetry-style lines. First of all, the color interferes with my ability to keep the whole sentence together. My brain actually ends up sticking the black text together in one group, and the red text together in another group. That really slows me down.
So I started thinking about why I read block text so fast.
Let's go over that last "funny" post. Yeah, it was written in the style of tongue-in-cheek quips, but I'm not sure the guy was joking.
Maybe it's just me, but I don't discard the extra 'noise' that I get from reading. I read roughly every second or third line
Okay, I read approximately one phrase (line) at a time. When I'm speed reading, I don't bother to understand the words of that line until my eyes are already on the next line. It feels like I'm reading every second or third line, but I'm actually hitting every one.
build up a composite image of the paragraph, tokenise it in parallel
I then attach a significance to the phrase, and approximate what the relation of the phrases are, according to ifs, ands, and buts, as well as punctuation.
and then parse it from that.
Then I discard the lines that seem relatively unimportant, giving me a basic summary of the paragraph. From this, I fit the other sentences back in as needed. What that means, realistically speaking, is that I look at the paragraph, identify the main topic, and glance through it as needed to understand the specifics.
It's a much better fit with how the optical system works than how people tend to describe reading, and possibly why I read a lot faster than most people I know. This new system slows my reading rate a lot.
Which is what I've experienced, too.
Re:For me, the vertical text was awful (Score:3, Interesting)
== quote==
Scientists at a small startup
called Walker Reading Technologies in Minnesota
have determined that the human brain
is not wired properly
to read block text.
They have found that our eyes
view text as if
they're peering through a straw.
Not only does your brain see the text on the line
you're reading,
but it's also uploading superfluous information from the two lines above and the two lines below.
This causes your brain
to engage in a tug of war as it
fights to filter and
ignore the noise.
The result is slower reading speeds and decreased comprehension.
== end quote ==
The first sentence ends up as block text anyway, and I find the wildly varying lengths of clauses make the third sentence difficult to read too. I'm really not impressed, especially as they're going to have to pull some fancy tricks with AI to get the app to recognise verbs properly.
For example, a dumb programme would probably misidentify "tug" in the fourth sentence as a verb, "ignore" as a finite form when it's actually an infinitive, and probably also mistakenly highlight "is