Sound Waves Kill Skin and Prostate Cancer Cells 107
Anonymous Coward writes "A recent Study
in the
British Journal of Cancer shows that the use of
Quercitin
and 20KHz ultrasound for 60 seconds killed skin and prostate cancer cells. 90% of the
abnormal cells were dead within 48hrs.
Since low frequency ultrasound was previously shown to enhance the skin penetration of
topical substances up to 1000 times, it would seem that a topical Quercetin cream with a low
frequency ultrasound wand might be just the ticket for those annoying little skin cancers that
tend to occur in older geeks who have spent a bit of time in the sun."
Killing cancer? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Killing cancer? (Score:2)
Bravo.
What else kills cancer... (Score:1)
Re:Killing cancer? (Score:1)
What I want to know is how did they get that cream on a prostate?
I shouldn't be able to hear ultrasonic (Score:2)
What the article ultimately seems to say, is that listening to Mariah Carey can improve the effectiveness of topical cancer treatments. I say it's not worth it.
Wow (Score:3, Funny)
They exist?
Re:Wow (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Wow (Score:2)
Re:Wow (Score:1)
Re:Wow (Score:4, Funny)
Depends... do they mean "in the Sun(TM) [sun.com]"?
Re:Wow (Score:2)
I've had to have 3 spots removed from my face by freezing, and one on my back by a little deeper cutting, it came back negative though.
In addition to the computer work over the last 25+ years, I've also logged a few hundred thousand on a motorcycle, made the form and poured the blocks and laid up a retaining wall about 44" high & 100 feet long over the last 3 summers, in addition
Spelling Mistake (Score:1)
Nah, they just mis-spelled "CRT Monitor"
yep, scientist geeks. (Score:2)
There's lots of scientist geeks out there who interact with the sun. (and by 'interact with', I mean, sit in basements and look at pictures of it)
But I've actually seen some of them go into the big blue room while the glowy thing is still out.
Time in the Sun (Score:2)
Interesting. Is this some kind of career benefit one accrues with experience or time spent at the company?
Re:Time in the Sun (Score:1)
Neither. The exposure usually occurs near the beginning, when you're the FNG (f'ing new geek) and are the one sent out on a 7-11 run.
Of course, not having to do this is yet ANOTHER benefit of having snackies on-site.
Re:Text of Article for those who can't get BJC (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Text of Article for those who can't get BJC (Score:2)
You complain about my punctuation, because it does not comply with your educated standards.
My choice of punctuation was chosen specifically to indicate the pauses in speech that I wanted expressed, and which would have been expressed had I been speaking the words myself.
Namely, I *wanted* a pause in speech after paragraphs. To break it appart and indicate the use of topicative speech in English, as best as it exists. This would be similar to the usage:
Re:Text of Article for those who can't get BJC (Score:2)
Asking for paragraphs so that it doesn't look like a big steaming pile is quit a bit different than nitpicking over a fucking comma.
Re:Text of Article for those who can't get BJC (Score:2)
Because I don't see paragraphation as the same as perscriptivism.
2) I do.
I can respect that, and I get the joke... NOW. Of course, intonation and body language would have made your joke easier to grasp at the time.
3) Had to resort to a thesaurus, huh?
WTF? I've not opened a thesaurus in a long time.
Sadly, you are mistaken misplaced commas!! (And other incorrect) Punctuation, make things more difficult? To read than one,
Full-text of article: (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Full-text of article: (Score:2)
Induction of cancer-specific cytotoxicity towards human prostate and skin cells using quercetin and ultrasound [nature.com]... whoops.
Slight problem eh? (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Slight problem eh? (Score:1, Informative)
And since when is 20 kHz 'low frequency'
Re:Slight problem eh? (Score:2, Informative)
Sorry, there wasn't enough room to put Low Frequency Ultrasound
in the title. 20KHz is considered the low end of ultrasound.
Happy?
Re:Slight problem eh? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Slight problem eh? (Score:2)
I think anyone using kelvin-hertz as a unit--for whatever unholy reason--would at least have the decency to write Hz-K or K-Hz to remove ambiguity.
Re:Slight problem eh? (Score:2)
Actually, I think that the "k" stands for "kilo" (or "kibi", if you're retarded) in both of those.
Re:Slight problem eh? (Score:1)
Re:Bad Googler! BAD!! (Score:1)
kelvin-hertz relationship (physics.nist.gov) [nist.gov]
Maybe you'd prefer a Pittsburgh (PA)-based acid jazz DJ Kelvin Hertz [download.com]
Slashdot (Score:1)
Re: (Score:2)
Sun ? (Score:1, Funny)
Just perfect... (Score:2, Funny)
Now I have an excuse... (Score:1)
Misleading headline (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Misleading headline (Score:1, Informative)
the Quercetin. BTW calling Quercetin a drug is a misnomer. It
is a nutrient (bioflavanoid to be specific).
Re:Misleading headline (Score:2, Funny)
Picky, picky. (Score:5, Informative)
Pretreatment of cells with ultrasound (20 kHz, 2 W cm(-2), 60 s) selectively induced cytotoxicity in skin and prostate cancer cells, while having minimal effect on corresponding normal cell lines.
Selective toxicity is what cancer treatment is all about, so while the sound man not "kill" cancer, it's a promising treatment.
It would be nice to see the actual studies. I'd like to see the statistics, and see if any other methods were tried and the researcher's reasoning. It may be that dysplastic cells are susceptible to sonic damage and this might work with other therapy methods, such as xray or heat. I'd also like to know how they treated prostate cancer, which is the number two cancer killer of men in the US.
Re:Picky, picky. (Score:1, Insightful)
IOW death. Either quickly by poisoning, or slowly from the other cancers the radiation induces.
Thanks, but no thanks.
"If something like this pans out, I predict it will be at least 10 years away"
I have no doubt that, in conventional circles, it will not. Neither quercetin nor
20kHz ultrasound wands require: a prescription, millions of dollars in drug development
money, or are patentable. The economic incentive for
acoustic holography (Score:2)
This is why I was initially apprehensive about diagnostic ultrasound with my kids, but the diagnostic ultrasound process delivers orders of magnitude less energy.
Only 90%? (Score:1, Interesting)
D
Re:Only 90%? (Score:1, Informative)
problem -- http://www.tribuneindia.com/2001/20010221/cth3.ht
http://www.thepowerhour.com/curcumin/Turmeric.pdf [thepowerhour.com] (warning pdf)
I love it.
Re:Only 90%? (Score:2)
Wow, keep my skin or be rid of my prostrace cancer (Score:1)
Where? (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Where? (Score:2, Funny)
Geeks Don't Know From Fiery Orb in Sky (Score:2)
Woot (Score:2)
2. Kill cancer
3. ?????
4. PROFIT!!!
Re:Woot (Score:1)
2. Kill cancer
3. ???
4. PROFIT!!!
Step 1 has been done already. It just remains for someone to scour the delete bins for old *Nsync and Boyz II Men albums and repackage them as cures for cancer.
Re:Woot (Score:2)
Re:Woot (Score:1)
Marketer's dream (Score:3, Funny)
Oh yeah, and we all know that's a billion-dollar market just waiting be tapped!
Sun washed geek (Score:1)
Re:Sun washed geek (Score:1)
Re:Sun washed geek (Score:2)
Re:Sun washed geek (Score:1)
Vibrating Butt Plug cures cancer? (Score:1)
Yes Comrade! (Score:4, Funny)
IN SOVIET RUSSIA... (Score:1)
No, hang on...
Nope, that's not it either...
Wait wait, that sounds nasty....
Yeah, that's it.
Ouch! (Score:3, Funny)
Finally.... (Score:2)
Soundwave kills cancer? (Score:2)
Re:Soundwave kills cancer? (Score:2)
Good news! (Score:1, Offtopic)
In other news... (Score:2)
And Bose will be adapting their acoustic waveguide technology to produce a suppository-based speaker that gives you booty-shaking bass while killing colon cancer.
Re:In other news... (Score:2)
Royal Rife did this in the 1930's (Score:2)
http://www.rife.org/ [rife.org]
I think the conspiracy theories surrounding Rife are as numerous as those on the Kennedy assassination and engines that run on water.
Rife's basic theory was everything had a frequency - including diseases. If you could find the frequency of the specific disease the person had and then bombard them with high energy RF you could disrupt the disease enough to wipe it out.
The implementations today range from quack devices to actual medical testin
older geeks who've spent a bit of time in the sun (Score:2)
it does not compute
Just a general philosophical question (Score:1)
Slashdot's gone herbal (Score:1)
Now google "quercetin" [google.com] and you'll find the sort of market this substance has.
Sound waves have long been used by quacks to swindle cancer patients out of their money when they're vulnerable.
The experiment is done in vitro. It involves growing a thin layer of cells in a petri dish (well test tubes in this case). It's not too surprising that sound waves can affect