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Norway to Build Doomsday Seed Bank 273

Kagu writes "According to the BBC, Norway is planning to build a Seed Bank in the Artic Permafrost to protect all known variations of seeds in case of worldwide disaster." From the article: "Mr Hawtin said there were currently about 1,400 seed banks around the world, but a large number of these were located in countries that were either politically unstable or that faced threats from the natural environment."
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Norway to Build Doomsday Seed Bank

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  • by eldavojohn ( 898314 ) * <eldavojohn@noSpAM.gmail.com> on Friday January 13, 2006 @07:39PM (#14468225) Journal
    This article reminds me of a short story [phpsolvent.com] I once read by Kurt Vonnegut Jr. I think it's from his book Palm Sunday.

    Anyways, the world is dying because the resources were squandered by humans. As a last resort, we package our genetic material into the nose cone of a rocket and fire it blindly into space (colder than the artic tundra).

    Would it be such a bad idea to launch seeds into outer space to orbit the world just in case? I mean, they have to be worth something to us, right?

    From the article:
    Permafrost will keep the vault below freezing point and the seeds will further be protected by metre-thick walls of reinforced concrete, two airlocks and high security blast-proof doors.
    I hope there's a foot of lead included in that shielding somewhere. To me that would seem the most vital shielding they could provide.
  • by drinkypoo ( 153816 ) <drink@hyperlogos.org> on Friday January 13, 2006 @07:54PM (#14468367) Homepage Journal
    AFAIK seeds don't last forever, which is why seed banks periodically replant and harvest seeds. I remember this coming up with some marijuana seeds (no joke) at some conservatory in Russia or something. Might be a good thing to search for on smokedot, if it wasn't using slashcode with its attendant super-shit search tool.
  • Actually (Score:5, Interesting)

    by TubeSteak ( 669689 ) on Friday January 13, 2006 @08:04PM (#14468434) Journal
    Actually, In Soviet Russia, they build a Doomsday Device

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doomsday_device [wikipedia.org]
    The Soviet Union built the world's only doomsday device, known originally as the "dead hand." The Russian dead hand is designed to launch the bulk of the country's nuclear forces in the event of a decapitating strike, utilizing specially designed rockets carrying radio equipment. The device may still exist under the name Perimetr.

    [Obligatory Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb quote]
  • by theolein ( 316044 ) on Friday January 13, 2006 @08:05PM (#14468446) Journal
    I wonder if they really thought this thing through or just got carried away in their zeal. The permafrost is melting worldwide. In 50 years there will not be much left in the arctic.
  • by nincehelser ( 935936 ) on Friday January 13, 2006 @08:23PM (#14468562)
    http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=mg189253 43.700 [newscientist.com]

    I think it's really more about preserving genetic diversity rather than being a hedge against world-wide disaster.

  • by Amiasian ( 157604 ) on Friday January 13, 2006 @08:36PM (#14468652)
    Marshall T. Savage, a while ago, proposed a rather interesting idea [amazon.com] for preserving life that I think would work as a great parallel project to this:

    In this boldly optimistic manifesto, Savage proclaims a master plan for the human race: to spread life throughout the galaxy. To many, space exploration seems irrelevant to Earth's real problems; but humanity may in fact have no other way to secure its long-term survival. To remain confined to Earth, Savage claims, is to court extinction, possibly within a few decades. Savage (an engineer who has established the Millennial Foundation to promote space exploration) outlines his program for transferring a significant portion of humanity off-planet. The crucial first step is to colonize the ocean surface with floating cities, quadrupling the living space available to the growing population of Earth. This allows us to reverse the degradation of the environment by shifting to the thermal energy of the deep ocean as our primary power source. At the same time, spirulina algae (already on sale in health food stores) becomes a major new food crop. The hardware for these oceanic colonies is already within practical reach: Savage provides a detailed inventory of how his floating cities would work and support themselves, with copious citations of the scientific literature. Once this move is well underway, it frees up energy and resources for the next steps. Improved space vehicles make possible orbiting space colonies, then settlements on the moon. A larger step is terraforming Mars--creating an atmosphere and a water supply for our lifeless neighbor to form a human habitat. On an even longer time scale, the race can expand into the rest of the solar system: asteroids and the moons of other planets. Ultimately, artificial habitats may completely surround the sun. With the resources of an entire solar system at our command, according to Savage, humanity can at last send out emissaries to other stars. The stuff of science fiction? Of course--but rigorously built from existing science, carefully documented, and convincingly argued. Highly recommended.
  • by Quadraginta ( 902985 ) on Friday January 13, 2006 @08:38PM (#14468666)
    I think you're right. Arguably it's a good idea, whether or not the organisms themselves are ever grown, because the DNA may have interesting genes in it that future biotechnologists might want to study and use, when we get to the point where we're able to not only "read" a genome easily but with full comprehension.

    It's for this reason that the actual viability of the seeds isn't maybe that much of an issue. So long as the DNA remains intact and can be sequenced, it will be useful.

    Although...I wonder if they might not be better off spending the money on sequencing the genomes now. That data can then be stored in many different places, and probably far more compactly and easily than the seeds. Furthermore, I think the mol bio field generally agrees that in the not too distant future it should be relatively straightforward to understand gene function from sequence, and that means only the sequence is really needed anyway. We won't need the actual DNA itself, because we can always reconstruct it, or the part of it we need.

    Basically I'm saying maybe preserve all these plant species virtually, in cyberspace, instead of actually, in the frozen tundra. Cheaper. As well as more cyberpunk.
  • by bdwoolman ( 561635 ) on Friday January 13, 2006 @10:17PM (#14469132) Homepage

    Svalbard, of which Spitsbergen is an island, is a complicated case politically -- sort of like the Antarctic where signatories to the treaty of Svalbard can have a research or economic presence. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svalbard [wikipedia.org].

    Norway's sovereignty is not in question, but it is under constraint. The Russians mine coal there (among other things). Norway has huge oil reserves in the North Sea and wants to move drilling into the Arctic ocean. The Norwegians have a strong interest in developing Svalbard and have a heavy presence in Longyearbyen. There is a developed tourist trade for people like me and my crazy wife who rode snowmobiles six hours to Berentsberg (The Russian Settlement) in a whiteout last Easter. But how many idiots like us can they count on?

    Now, put in this context, the seed project makes a lot more sense. It is a good thing to do, of course, but at root there is the matter of "presence" not to mention all that oil and gas up there. And let's not forget those pesky Russians who also have interests.

  • by Rune Berge ( 663292 ) on Friday January 13, 2006 @11:19PM (#14469371)

    All Norway has is lutefisk, which would probably tend to repel invaders.

    That, and some oil. But, of course, nobody has ever invaded anybody over something as trivial as oil.

  • by harmlessdrudge ( 718066 ) on Saturday January 14, 2006 @01:11AM (#14469696)
    If you Googled Jeff Hawtin, referred to in the story, you'd find he'd worked for the International Plant Genetic resources Institute which is part of the CGIAR, the consultative group on international agricultural research. Check here http://www.cgiar.org/centers/index.html/ [cgiar.org] a map of the world with the research centers of the CGIAR on it. Take a look. The CGIAR holds the gene banks of the world's major food crops in trust for humanity under UN auspices. You'll find potatos in Peru, rice in the Philippines, wheat and maize in Mexico etc. There are good biogeographic reasons why the institutes are where they are. One CGIAR institute, WARDA, the West African Rice Development Association, has had to move 3 times because of civil unrest, from Liberia to the Ivory Coast two years ago, from there to Nigeria (temporarily), from there, recently, to Benin. The Philippines has had several coups and attempted coups. Other countries where CGIAR institues and gene banks are located include Colombia and Nigeria.

    Your taxes help support the CGIAR and the sustain the gene banks of the world's most important food crops to the tune of $500m a year. It would be a shame if the billions invested were to be lost. About half of the world's population eats rice; 2 in 3 in Asia get most of their calories from rice. Half of the rice grown today was bred using materials from the rice gene bank of the International Rice Research Institute. If the gene bank of a major food crop was lost the loss to humanity would be incalculable, and the potential future consequences could include widespread famine, political unrest, large scale human migration and environmental destruction. For an insight into the economic importance of the CGIAR see the article on wheat in the recent issue of the Economist (Story of Man on the cover, or click here http://www.economist.com/science/displaystory.cfm? story_id=5323362&no_na_tran=1/ [economist.com]). Norman Borlaug, featured in that article, works at the CGIAR's wheat and maize institute, still, in his 90s.

    As a recent profile of Gurdev Khush, a rice scientist, put it: his name may not have passed your lips but his work certainly has.

    The CGIAR doesn't have any gene banks for oak trees, though it does have two forestry institutes. Oak is a temperate climate tree found in Northern latitudes not known for political instability. The future of the world's climate, the security of its food supply, biodiversity and any prospects of world peace are largely in the hands of the world's poor living in developing countries. People who don't have enough to eat today don't worry about tomorrow. Lucky for us all the Norwegians are enlightened people. Likewise other supporters of Global Crop Diversity Trust.

    Two minutes here is all you'll need to understand why it matters http://www.croptrust.org/items/homepage.php/ [croptrust.org].

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