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Short Gamma-ray Bursts Traced to Colliding Stars 135

Astervitude writes "Collisions of the cosmic kind could be the source of one of nature's most lethal explosions. Astronomers have traced the origin of short-duration gamma-ray bursts, or GRBs, to the merger of neutron stars or other dense bodies. Space.com has a report on the scientific detective work that led to the solution of what has been described as a 35-year-old mystery. "Our observations do not prove the coalescence model, but we surely have found a lady with a smoking gun next to a dead body," said Shri Kulkarni, one of over two dozen astronomers who discovered and investigated two short-duration bursts that took place last May and July. Unlike short-duration GRBs, long-duration GRBs are believed to be produced when extremely massive stars collapse and explode as supernovas."
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Short Gamma-ray Bursts Traced to Colliding Stars

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  • by eobanb ( 823187 ) on Thursday October 06, 2005 @01:20AM (#13727700) Homepage
    Let me add on to this and also mention that when two stars do get close to each other they tend to fall into orbit around each other instead of just colliding, obviously. In that case, you have another star in close enough proximity to keep the star in an acceleration curve.
  • by Capt'n Hector ( 650760 ) on Thursday October 06, 2005 @01:34AM (#13727751)
    Um... ok. 1) Mass has nothing to do with a star's ability to collide. 2) the universe's expansion only effects entire galaxies over extremely long distances. Individual stars in galaxies are not affected by this. In fact, they are drawn towards each other as seen in binary+ systems. This is where colliding neutron stars comes from. We need a binary system where both stars are of sufficient size to go supernova and create two neutron stars. Now we have two neutron stars orbiting each other. While the following can be derived directly from Einstein's equations in a single college lecture, it's rather too complex to detail in a slashdot comment... essentially these two neutron stars spiral inward towards each other because with each orbit they loose enough orbital energy due to gravitational waves (energy given off by a gravitational wave is inversely proportional to orbital period and proportional to mass - or something like that) It turns out this energy is of an appreciable amount so that eventially these stars will collide in a reasonable amount of time. So yeah.
  • Gravity Waves (Score:4, Informative)

    by williwilli ( 639147 ) on Thursday October 06, 2005 @01:38AM (#13727758) Homepage
    The end part of the article notes that the upcoming LIGO observatory might see the first detection of gravitational waves, corresponding with a GRB event! Evidentially Einstein modeled the emission of gravity waves during a collision between Neutron stars. This is interesting because we don't really know much about gravity; e.g. if it is a wave or a constant. More info on LIGO is available here. [caltech.edu]

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  • What are you talking about? Fusion only produces energy in elements lighter than Iron, and fission only produces energy in elements heavier than Iron. Iron is the most tightly-bound nucleus (most eV / nucleon) - If you fuse it with another nucleus, the nuclear binding energy of the result will be higher than what you started with, and you lost energy. Furthermore, the energy yield from fusion is highest with hydrogen & helim and decreases rapidly as masses increase.

    If you'd like to learn more, type "nuclear binding energy" into Google.
  • It's not just because there is a solution ... there are cases where the observations are such that no other solution per the proven theory seems plausible

    http://www.wonderquest.com/black-holes-proof.htm [wonderquest.com]
    Summarizes very neatly the default hypothesis that they exist

    This leaves aside the problem of coming up with a better theory than GR (which has been extensively tested)

    After all, the theory of black holes has been contested vigorously from its inception http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chandrasekhar_limit [wikipedia.org]
    http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn6193 [newscientist.com]

    Two examples of a reasonable approximation to proof:
    Massive black holes ... Here they seem to have shown that MACHOs and WIMPs do not fit the bill.
    http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/blackhole_mi lkyway_021016.html [space.com]

    And for a stellar mass black hole
    http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/astronomy/de ath_spiral_010111.html [space.com]

  • If two neutron stars are say, 10,000 km far from each other, what will be the acceleration? (remember, the greater the mass, the greater the acceleration).
    Well, the gravitational acceleration from a point mass at a given distance is MG/R^2 (force computed by plugging a second mass in on top). 3 * 10^30 * 6.67 * 10^-11 / (10000000)^2 = 2001000 M/S^2 (I love Google Calculator), or roughly 200000G's that each star applies to the other. Total acceleration: 4002000 M/S^2.
    And what speed will they have when they collide?
    This is kinda tricky, because they don't just start from rest and fly into eachother (which would no doubt be awesome to watch from a distance). But imagine that two neutron stars just pop up 10000km from each other. Each has a gravitational potential relative to the other: mass * integral g(h) dh from 10k to 10m, where g(h) is gravity at height h (2*10^20 / h^2), or the energy to raise one star's mass from the surface of the other to 10 thousand KM. I get 5 * 10^46 joules each. As they fall, potential turns to kinetic energy: 5 * 10 ^ 46 = .5MV^2 = .5 * (3 * 10^30)V^2. V works out to 182 574 186 meters per second. This is a relativistic speed, so things get wierd and I give up. This never happens though - they spiral around each other, losing orbital speed to gravitational waves until their mutual orbit decays into impact.
    Finally, what will be the kinetic force at the time of impact?
    I don't think our knowledge of motion even applies to something this massive moving this fast, aka I don't have a clue.
  • by The Master Control P ( 655590 ) <ejkeeverNO@SPAMnerdshack.com> on Thursday October 06, 2005 @03:43AM (#13728029)
    Neutron stars and other things like them do wierd things: Objects that dense and massive, spiraling around each other that fast, create gravitational waves [nasa.gov] like moving a stick through a pond. Energy is needed to create gravity waves, and it comes from the orbital motion of the neutron stars. Their existing orbits slow down; They fall closer and orbit even faster, generating more gravity waves than before.
  • by Decaff ( 42676 ) on Thursday October 06, 2005 @04:26AM (#13728131)
    Before becoming a blackhole any star will explode explode due to fusion of heavy atoms, the heavier they are more energy they will release. like the heavy metals

    This is false. Fusion of atoms only releases energy if the atoms are light. Above a certain nuclear size (greater than Iron) fusion takes energy.
  • Re:Correction... (Score:3, Informative)

    by Decaff ( 42676 ) on Thursday October 06, 2005 @04:34AM (#13728151)
    Anyway, it is curious that no gamma-ray bursts occured in our galaxy (yet).

    They may have, but not pointed in our direction.

    It is supposed that such an even would generate enough gamma rays to wipe out the ozone layer, and cause life extinction on earth.

    Wiping out the ozone layer would not cause extinction of life, after all, life survived for billions of years without such a layer.
  • by Floody ( 153869 ) on Thursday October 06, 2005 @04:51AM (#13728196)
    Before becoming a blackhole any star will explode explode due to fusion of heavy atoms, the heavier they are more energy they will release. like the heavy metals


    That isn't really the primary (theoretical, of course) reason that massive stars "explode" (keep in mind, this is nothing like an explosion as any human understands it). However, the continuing fusion of heavier elements, up to iron, is thought to be the reason for numerous changes a late-lifecycle star experiences.

    Once a massive star reaches the point where the majority of exothermic fusionable material consists of silicon, it has very big problem on its "hands." It's got about a day to live. silicon fuses at about 2.7e+9 K (optimimally), so that's one hell of a last day, and an unbelievable amount of iron production (thank the stars for your iron). Now, this entire time the star has been increasingly putting out more and more energy; that energy has tremendous pressure and serves to balance the star's own gravitional force which seeks to collapse it as closely to a point-source as possible (and it is, of course, theorized ... sometimes it gets its wish).

    At some very critical moment on the last minute of the last hour of that last day, there is no longer enough remaining silicon to keep the reaction going (some of the iron is fusing, but it's endothermic so it's only making the situation worse). Once this magic point is hit, fusion drops off very very rapidly, the remaining lighter-than-iron elements simply won't fuse without enough energy and once its gone ... its gone forever (for that star anyway). Suddenly, gravity has the upper-hand, and in a big way. The entire star begins to contract in on itself, approaching relativistic speeds as it nears the core. The inner core of the star is already highly dense post-fusion material, lots of iron, silicon, oxygen, neon, etc. The outer portion of the star was mostly the light and fluffy stuff: hydrogen, helium, nitrogen, ... But there's a whole lot of it. So, when all this "stuff" comes rushing back in and hits what amounts to an immovable object, it "bounces." Really really hard. So hard that the fundamental forces of nature momentarily cease to exist as we know them. So hard that the energy produced illuminates large sections of galaxies.

    The details that actually occur in those few nanoseconds and microseconds are not completely understood, but it is understood that a great many bizarre interactions take place. The closest anyone can come to understanding this by way of simulation is in a particle accelerator. For one brief moment, this former mega-sized celebrity of a star takes on the apparition of the big bang; unification of forces and other outlandish stylings that no mortal human will ever witness up-close (or would want to if you're half-sane).

    So, what really causes supernovae? Gravity winning.

  • Re:Gravity Waves (Score:3, Informative)

    by Decaff ( 42676 ) on Thursday October 06, 2005 @05:05AM (#13728229)
    This is interesting because we don't really know much about gravity; e.g. if it is a wave or a constant.

    We are pretty sure it is a wave because we have seen the effects of gravitational radiation (of waves) in double neutron star orbits. If gravity isn't waves, then general relativity is in trouble, which is unlikely.
  • Astronomy vs Science (Score:2, Informative)

    by Markus Registrada ( 642224 ) on Thursday October 06, 2005 @05:24AM (#13728271)
    physicists will listen to challenges to almost any theory (and are proven wrong on a regular basis, science advances!) ... Black holes have only been accepted for a short period of time, but if you challenge conservation of energy be prepared. ... scientists make mistakes, too, but not usually for long in the face of strong evidence.

    What this implies is that astrophysics, as practiced, is no more science than, say, sociology. Whenever current astrophysical theories are falsified by observation, a fundamental law gets tossed instead. Lately we have "dark matter" (6x as much of it as the visible universe), "dark energy" (18x as much!), "inflation", and distant galaxies producing hundreds of times more light than similar modern ones. All are futile attempts to rescue the Big Bang from the oblivion it earns by being, finally, irreconcilable with observation. (E.g. light-element ratios; gravitational lensing measurements of galactic mass; fractal, filamentary arrangement of galactic superclusters; preferred direction of cosmic microwave background anisotropy; shall I go on [bizland.com]?)

    For all the claims of evidence for the role of neutron stars and black holes in galactic-scale events, it all amounts to negative evidence: those are the only way to concentrate enough energy when the only forces you are willing or equipped to work with are gravitation, fusion, and shock waves. Even so, multimillion-degree "hot gases" in free space and 10^14 eV cosmic rays remain beyond their capacity. Current flow in interstellar plasmas [lanl.gov] easily propagates and concentrates such energies, without reliance on untestable physical laws and ghosts. However, such work can, as a rule, only be published in Plasma Science journals not read (and perhaps not readable) by astrophysicists.

    [p.s. read this quick; /. moderators prefer to prevent discussion of failures of mainstream cosmology and astrophysics.]

  • Re:Gravity Waves (Score:3, Informative)

    by PhilRod ( 550010 ) on Thursday October 06, 2005 @06:49AM (#13728478)

    The paper itself suggests that observing the waves from such an event would have to wait until the "second generation" LIGOs. I assume by that it means advanced LIGO [caltech.edu], which isn't scheduled to start taking measurements until 2013, so don't hold your breath :-). Even so, LIGO is an amazing project - the sensitivities required are enormous, (to quote the LIGO website: "These changes are minute: just 10-16 centimeters, or one-hundred-millionth the diameter of a hydrogen atom over the 4 kilometer length of the arm"), and the payoffs for theory and astronomy are potentially huge.

    As to whether gravity is a wave, that's generally agreed (as someone else pointed out, measurements of binary pulsars show this). However, the exact details of general relativity in the strong field regime - that is, near black holes, neutron stars, etc - hasn't been well tested, and there are potentially modifications of general relativity which would give the same predictions for the weak field case (eg, the solar system), but would differ for strong fields. Physics World has a nice article on it [physicsweb.org].

  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 06, 2005 @07:16AM (#13728578)
    No. In fact, nothing would be seen: the horizon is not a physical surface that a star can "smack into", but a region of space within which light can't escape. In fact, that is one of the main new ways we have found to justify the existence of black holes: when things run into them and you don't see a big flash from a collision.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 06, 2005 @08:22AM (#13728853)
    Fission splits up big atoms into smaller (lower atomic number) ones, so you can't get heavy elements from fission. Fusion is the only process that creates heavy elements. True, fusion to create elements heavier than iron loses energy, but that's why stars die after they start such reactions.
  • by barneyfoo ( 80862 ) on Thursday October 06, 2005 @09:06AM (#13729127)
    Conservation of energy is already violated according to current annihilation theory. When a positron and electron "annihilate" the energy of the outgoing photons does not include the intrinsic angular momentum energy of the electrons. It dissapears, supposedly.
  • by hde226868 ( 906048 ) on Thursday October 06, 2005 @10:22AM (#13729711) Homepage
    I do research in X-ray and Gamma-Ray astronomy and just wanted to confirm that so far no gamma-ray bursts have ever been observed to come from our own galaxy.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 06, 2005 @12:36PM (#13731540)
    This is not correct. Both total energy and total angular momentum are conserved in particle-antiparticle annihilation.

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