First modernized GPS satellite Launched 221
A reader writes "The first GPS 2R-M satellite has launched from Cape Canaveral, Florida on top of a Boeing Delta 2 rocket. The government is now competing with Europe's Galileo system, and has added two additional military channels and one civilian channel, which will increase the accuracy and performance of GPS - as well as increase its resistance to jamming."
Jamming by whom? (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Jamming by whom? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Compatibility (Score:3, Informative)
The new military channels will be more for JDAM/Cruise Missiles and other targeting systems.
Re:Jamming by whom? (Score:4, Informative)
No, it's more complex than that. Yes, the government can fine tune the results to cause problems for enemies, and even turn off the unencrypted civilian bands if they so choose. However, real methods exist [wikipedia.org] for sending confusing signals that will effectively jam a GPS signal. This jamming can force so called "smart bombs" to rely on internal guidance instead of GPS. The result (hopefully) is that the less precise guidance would cause the bomb or missile to miss the target.
In practical terms, it seems a bit harder than that to prevent US munitions from reaching their targets. Our guidance computers were well developed prior to the general use of GPS coordinates, and we have the capability to manually deliver ordinance wherever it may be needed. So in the end, this is about keeping the efficiency of our weapons in good order so that we have to risk fewer lives in missed targets and strafing runs.
Re:You Will Be Assimilated! (Score:5, Informative)
One thing is a bit weird though about the first photo. Usually these satellites are assembled in clean rooms with people wearing all kinds of protection against static electricity build up and anti dust covers. So I wonder if the satellite in this picture is just a mockup to make a testfit of the equipment (never trust the drawings).
Re:You Will Be Assimilated! (Score:4, Informative)
Re:You Will Be Assimilated! (Score:5, Informative)
1. Nanoprobes wouldn't have a large enough transceiver dish.
2. We are. Have you heard of the NASA Deep Space Network [wikipedia.org]? Every sat and probe we launch becomes part of NASA's network in space. That's why when they had communications problems with the Mars Rover, they were able to send reset commands from a probe heading elsewhere. As long as they can find a number of sats with the necessary line of sight, NASA can communicate with any probe, anywhere. Even if it's on the other side of the Sun.
(No, I am not privy to the exact locations of anything. So take this with a grain of salt. We have a lot of hardware up there, but space is a big place.)
Re:which # (Score:3, Informative)
GPS 2R-M1 will assume the Plane C, Slot 4 position, taking over for the GPS 2A-20 craft launched in May 1993.
Re:Jamming by whom? (Score:5, Informative)
I see jamming in action regularly (Score:5, Informative)
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Re:How do you compete with vaporware (Galileo)? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:You Will Be Assimilated! (Score:5, Informative)
Those *are* the antennas. See the spiral bits on both kinds? That's a conductive strip. It's a helical antenna -- common on satellites. The body that looks like the main bulk is just to give the thin metal something to hold shape.
Re:which # (Score:4, Informative)
Re:You Will Be Assimilated! (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Jamming by whom? (Score:3, Informative)
Yup [navy.mil].
And I rather suspect that HARMs are not limited to air defense radar systems...
Re:You Will Be Assimilated! (Score:2, Informative)
Have you heard of the NASA Deep Space Network? Every sat and probe we launch becomes part of NASA's network in space. That's why when they had communications problems with the Mars Rover, they were able to send reset commands from a probe heading elsewhere.
Did you even read the Wikipedia article you linked to? The Deep Space Network is an earth based network of large radio dishes that listen to deep space probes. It's not located in deep space. It's almost always easier to talk to a distant probe with a huge dish on earth than to try and use the small dish on another probe.
The closest thing to what you're discussing is NASA's TDRS system. That relays signals from earth orbiting satellites to the ground.
We need more GPS satellites (Score:5, Informative)
Unless you're in a very flat area, in the air, or on an ocean, you won't see five or six sats 100% of the time. 70-80% is more like it. If one of the sats is down (which happens; PRN #5, plane B, slot 4, wss down for 8 days recently [uscg.gov]), the outages are longer.
GPS uses six rings of four satellites each, with all rings in polar orbit. The four satellites in each ring are 90 degrees apart. So, when a satellite in a ring is near the zenith, it's usually the only one visible in that ring. The original design called for more satellites per ring; with six per ring, you'd always have at least two satellites visible per ring, as long as you could see to within 30 degrees of the horizon. But there was a budget cut in the early days of GPS.
Re:You Will Be Assimilated! (Score:3, Informative)
None of this means that the IIR-M couldn't be smaller and lighter (I personally believe it could be). But doing so requires careful design and assessment of the tradeoffs involved. Just throwing technology at the problem is not the answer. In fact, it's often the cause of the massive cost and schedule overruns that happne in DoD space programs.
Re:Russians using GPS (Score:4, Informative)
Re:How do you compete with vaporware (Galileo)? (Score:3, Informative)
From the Galileo Wikipedia Article: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GALILEO_positioning
"An encrypted higher bandwidth Commercial Service with improved accuracy will be available at an extra cost, while the base Open Service will be freely available to anyone with Galileo compatible receiver."