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Reintroduce Megafauna to North America? 855

sneakers563 writes "A team of scientists is proposing reintroducing large mammals such as elephants, lions, cheetahs and wild horses to North America to replace populations lost 13,000 years ago. The scientists say that parks could be set up as breeding sanctuaries for species of large wild animals under threat in Africa and Asia, and that such ecological history parks could be major tourist attractions. 'Africa and parts of Asia are now the only places where megafauna are relatively intact, and the loss of many of these species within this century seems likely,' the team said."
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Reintroduce Megafauna to North America?

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  • The Wilds (Score:5, Informative)

    by rlp ( 11898 ) on Thursday August 18, 2005 @09:24AM (#13346752)
    The Wilds [thewilds.org] in Cumberland, OH has 10,000 acres with African, Asian, and North American animals.
  • Old news, really (Score:3, Informative)

    by Creosote ( 33182 ) * on Thursday August 18, 2005 @09:28AM (#13346799) Homepage
    Paul Martin [usgs.gov] of the University of Arizona, whose name has been synonymous with Pleistocene megafauna for decades (he first advanced the "Pleistocene overkill" theory of their extinction), was in the news several years ago for suggesting something like this. For example, see this talk [amnh.org] at the American Museum of Natural History from 1998.

    I'd Google for more references, but I have a plane to catch...

  • Climate (Score:3, Informative)

    by Webs 101 ( 798265 ) on Thursday August 18, 2005 @09:29AM (#13346806) Homepage
    Ignoring the pros and cons of conservation and the potential animal-human interactions, lions may not be suited to the cold North American winters that dominate on the plains.

    Elephants may be able to handle it through sheer size, but lions have no adaptations for cold. Nor do cheetahs.

    Zoos and free-animal parks provide shelter that wild animals wouldn't have.

  • by ACK!! ( 10229 ) on Thursday August 18, 2005 @09:42AM (#13346929) Journal
    Ok, there are studies that show the impact of introduced wolf packs are having a positive impact on some areas in Canada.

    On the other hand, it seems like every time we introduce a non-native bit of flora and fauna to the North American landscape we end up with those jumping fish in the Mississippi river or kudzu all over everything in the South or ..... (you get the picture)

    Outside of a very restricted park environment I can see a serious potential for tragedy here.

  • Re:Help me out here (Score:3, Informative)

    by StopSayingYouSir ( 907720 ) on Thursday August 18, 2005 @09:43AM (#13346939)
    This sounds great in theory, but where in the US are we going to put free roaming lions so they will be no danger to persistantly encroaching civilization?

    North America is no stranger to large, free roaming, wild cats. [wikipedia.org] Most of the time, we get along just fine (read: leave each other alone).

  • by Tx ( 96709 ) on Thursday August 18, 2005 @09:43AM (#13346940) Journal
    In Scotland, there's a scheme in the offing to reintroduce bison, wild board and wolves to a reserve. ISTR bears may have been mentioned as well. The reserve will be protected by a 50 foot fence, but ramblers will be allowed free access! I hope they put CCTV cameras up so we can watch ramblers vs wolves in realtime :).
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 18, 2005 @09:45AM (#13346954)
    Bison are thriving on farms across the US, particularly in Montana. There is even a restaurant called "Ted's Montana Grill" (as in Ted Turner) which specializes in Bison burgers, steaks and more.
  • Re:A Little Late (Score:5, Informative)

    by zxnos ( 813588 ) <zxnoss@gmail.com> on Thursday August 18, 2005 @10:09AM (#13347162)
    since we are being pedantic about, and my people (Lakota) were here before the people who named them bison, it is actually Tatanka. [storyofthebison.com]
  • Re:A Little Late (Score:3, Informative)

    by dave420 ( 699308 ) on Thursday August 18, 2005 @10:15AM (#13347224)
    A completely different species to Bison :)

    Buffalo are "Bubalus arnee", Bison are "Bison bison". They're both bovines, but that's where their similarity ends. It'd be like calling a cow a buffalo.

    Buffalo: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/3 3/Indonesia-Bull.jpg/180px-Indonesia-Bull.jpg [wikimedia.org]

    Bison: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/8 d/American_bison.jpg/200px-American_bison.jpg [wikimedia.org]

    As you can see, they don't look anything alike.

  • Re:Help me out here (Score:2, Informative)

    by MyNameIsFred ( 543994 ) on Thursday August 18, 2005 @10:38AM (#13347445)
    The same is true in the U.S. When we complain about encroaching civilization, we are complaining about areas around major metropolitans areas. Rural america is being depopulated. Forests are growing back, and are much larger than they were 100 years ago. Etc. Etc.
  • Re:A Little Late (Score:3, Informative)

    by Snar Bloot ( 324250 ) on Thursday August 18, 2005 @10:40AM (#13347462)
    Arikira, Nakota, Dakota, just to name a few. Don't know what they called bison (although the Nakota and Dakota names were probably very similar to the Lakota's).

    European explorers gave the American bison the name of buffalo. They thought they looked like cattle. The French called them les boeufs. English explorers mispronounced that as "labuff" or "buffle." Eventually, everyone's just calling them Buffalo.

    Where I live (South Dakota) there are at least 4 major herds in the relatively near vicinity. (2 public herds, two private) Everybody and their dog knows the "official" name is bison, but everyone calls them buffalo.

  • Re:Help me out here (Score:3, Informative)

    by quasi_steller ( 539538 ) <(moc.liamg) (ta) (reltuC.nimajneB)> on Thursday August 18, 2005 @11:42AM (#13348039)

    Where I'm from, several people have lost pets to those things. While it's true that pumas (we call them mountian lions here) are generally afraid of humans, the ones that live close to populated areas tend to get too used to humans and lose there natural fear of humans. This is when they can become dangerous. Several people in Colorado have been attacked by them over the years.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 18, 2005 @12:12PM (#13348243)
    Mountain lions have moved into San Jose. You know, that wilderness just outside Milpitas and Mountain View. Coyotes have been seen in San Francisco. Nature has this habit of adapting.

    And there are very, very few relatives of mountain lions in Florida. They're called panthers, and they're just about extinct. Count yourself very luck to see one, ever. However, there are alligators all over. Check out the University of Florida's campus sometime. Over 40k resident students and you'll still see alligators in the ponds. Even with the rampant drunkenness, people manage not to be killed.

    These animals rarely cause problems. They're afraid of people. We're fairly large, loud, and travel in packs. You only need to worry when you're alone, physically hurt, or obviously frightened (before you see the animal).

    Wild pigs, on the other hand, are aggressive. They're non-native, invasive, and damned yummy. Whee!
  • Re:Help me out here (Score:1, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 18, 2005 @12:15PM (#13348281)

    North America is no stranger to large, free roaming, wild cats. Most of the time, we get along just fine (read: leave each other alone).


    This is true. I hike in Mountain Lion territory all the time. The vast majority of the time, people and lions keep to themselves. On the extremely rare occation where they don't however, something very bad happens either to the person or the cat.

    Folks have been mauled/killed not terribly far from me, and every now and then the villagers gather torches and pitchforks to go kill a/some/all lions.
  • Horse manure (Score:3, Informative)

    by LPetrazickis ( 557952 ) <leo DOT petr+slashdot AT gmail DOT com> on Thursday August 18, 2005 @12:26PM (#13348372) Homepage Journal
    And I don't believe the United States ever had wild horses: I think they were all brought here.

    Belief is nice, but often facts smack it upside the ass. North America had mammoths, mastodons, sabre-toothed tigers [google.com], camels, and -- yes -- horses [plosjournals.org]. In fact, horses evolved in North America [humboldt.edu] and only later spread to Eurasia. The locals went extict 11,000 years ago.

    As far as we know, native North American horses were never domesticated. The domesticable wild mustangs were just feral horses brought over by the conquistadors.
  • Re:Help me out here (Score:1, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 18, 2005 @12:26PM (#13348373)
    Ummm... because we're British?
  • Re:A Little Late (Score:2, Informative)

    by Brandybuck ( 704397 ) on Thursday August 18, 2005 @01:17PM (#13348874) Homepage Journal
    You guys are the newbies on the block! "Tatanka" is a MODERN name. It's also only one modern word out of several modern Amerindian languages. These animals were known by more than just the Lakota! The Bison also roamed the San Joaquin Valley of California, but the Yokut word for them was NOT "Tatanka"!

    We should instead call this species by their proper name, which is whatever the first human to North America 20,000+ years ago called them.
  • Re:The Wilds (Score:2, Informative)

    by Phiu-x ( 513322 ) on Thursday August 18, 2005 @01:43PM (#13349141)
    You're joking right? I'd like to see an elephant or a lion trying to survive a Canadian winter.
  • Re:Help me out here (Score:3, Informative)

    by Council ( 514577 ) <rmunroe@gmaPARISil.com minus city> on Thursday August 18, 2005 @02:45PM (#13349765) Homepage
    Brings back memories, only mine was with a mountain lion, not a cougar.

    Cougars and mountain lions are regional names for the same animal, Felix concolor. Also, "panther".
  • Ah, Cornell (Score:1, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 18, 2005 @04:08PM (#13350443)
    I had to laugh when I read this. I went to Cornell. This is right up there with Carl Sagan's various capers, and it's a great example of the charming utopian out to lunchness that seems to define Cornell. Hey, I'm one of 'em and I'd love to see this happen on a large scale but I've lived in the real world too long to believe it could happen. Gotta get back to Ithaca one of these days, I guess...
  • Re:Help me out here (Score:2, Informative)

    by (H)elix1 ( 231155 ) <slashdot.helix@nOSPaM.gmail.com> on Thursday August 18, 2005 @05:15PM (#13351004) Homepage Journal
    The 35mm was shooting slide film. I'll post a link when I get back home in a couple days. Should be able to find a way to scan it.
  • Re:Help me out here (Score:3, Informative)

    by cephyn ( 461066 ) on Thursday August 18, 2005 @07:10PM (#13351742) Homepage
    Don't forget "puma"

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