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South Korean Scientists Clone Dog 404

Ebon Praetor writes "According to the BBC and Reuters, South Korean scientists have created the world's first cloned dog, an Afghan hound. The research purpose of the research is ostensibly to produce research animals and not for commercial purposes. Dogs are especially difficult to clone, but the scientists were able to extract DNA from a skin cell, inject it into an egg, and implant the egg into a surrogate mother."
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South Korean Scientists Clone Dog

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  • by Rude Turnip ( 49495 ) <valuation.gmail@com> on Wednesday August 03, 2005 @04:25PM (#13234190)
    I hold nothing but extreme vitriol towards people that breed dogs when there are so many cats and dogs that are out on the streets and in shelters needing good homes. Same goes towards any pet store that sells cats and dogs.

    People, please spay or neuter your pets and don't allow your ego to perpetuate the suffering of homeless cats and dogs.

  • by Dachannien ( 617929 ) on Wednesday August 03, 2005 @04:33PM (#13234316)
    Quoth the article: "Canine cloning runs contrary to the Kennel Club's objective 'To promote in every way the general improvement of dogs'," Phil Buckley, spokesman for the Kennel Club told the BBC News website.

    But the KC does things like register particular breeds of dogs which, due to their popularity, have been improperly bred so that they develop a wide variety of health problems. Some breeds are even prone to genetic disorders even if they aren't inbred. So doesn't promoting the breeding of these susceptible dog breeds detract from the lives of those dogs?

    And besides that, there are so many dogs out there that are euthanized because nobody can find homes for them. Doesn't intentionally breeding more dogs in such an environment make life worse (as in, dead) for the dogs that get euthanized?

    Yes, I think that cloning animals to be pets is a bad idea, but aside from the multitude of failed clones, I don't get how that's any worse than breeding them. And at least the cloning scientists have a goal of improving the state of medicine for humans.

  • by wk633 ( 442820 ) on Wednesday August 03, 2005 @04:36PM (#13234354)
    If you accept animals being used for research, then cloning is a very neccessary step. Sure, it would be cheaper to just let them go at it, but then you don't get genetically identical test subjects.

    With clones, you can inuduce cancer in multiple animals, and give half a drug. The non-treated animals are now a perfect control group.
  • by Some_Llama ( 763766 ) on Wednesday August 03, 2005 @04:46PM (#13234481) Homepage Journal
    "find a housepet that won't freak out and mame our children. "

    This is a good point but also there are the health implications to consider, unless a animal (dog/cat in this instance) is bred correctly, it can lead to genetic defects and other health problems.

    AKC breeds have to meet a certain standard to get papaers and before they are sold (depnding on the breed) they have to be medically screened for certian genetic traits... for example, our family bought a Golden labrador, they have a genetic disposition towards hip problems, our dog was screened and everything looked ok (the breeder has also been breeding for a number of years, had award winning dogs, and knew his job), so far so good, great dog, everyone is happy...

    A friend of mine also got a labrador, but it wasn't from a reputable breeder and it turns out the dog has a bad hip, now the family loves their dog but they have to watch it suffer in pain and have had numerous medical bills to try and help the dog (it is only 4 years old at this point).

    So getting mad at people who buy dogs from breeders is just being ill-informed...
  • Re:Off-color joke: (Score:1, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 03, 2005 @04:56PM (#13234617)
    I'll be modded down, but this has to be said. I don't care if you are joking, but people like you unnecessarily perpetuate negative stereotypes about Asian cultures. Westerners act like they are high and mighty, and that the exotic food other cultures eat are signs of primitive, uncivilized cultures. But you should take a second, and realize that America's Texans eat the heads, intestines, and feet of hogs and cows. Please don't make out like other cultures' choice of cuisines are inferior to yours. If anything, the Western (specifically American) food lifestyle is the most dispicable in the world. Obesity has run rampant and an excess amount of food is wasted every day. Tsk tsk tsk.
  • by Shivetya ( 243324 ) on Wednesday August 03, 2005 @05:26PM (#13234930) Homepage Journal
    Do not attempt to put guilt upon the good breeders out there. It is not their fault for the huge numbers of homeless animals and they should not have their legitimate activities curtailed.

    The good breeders promote their breeds by ensuring only the good representatives of the breed are bred. They usually sell their dogs in two classes, show and pet. Show class dogs are show no signs of defect, injury, or disease. They are splendid examples of their breed and will help to keep the breed useful and defect free. Pet quality dogs are usually those whom the breeder to be healthy animals yet not posses the best qualities representative of the breed. They are sold on the condition that they are to be spayed or neutured. Their registration actually prevents unscrupulous buyers from registering litters produced by them.

    The good effect of cloning is that by advancements in the procedures it may be possible to eliminate some defects that show up in various types of animals thereby improving the breeds.

    I am all for control of the pet population but it is just as selfish to condemn all breeders and sellers as it is to ignore the problem out there. Quite a few states PERMIT puppy-mills (Misourri is one). I am all for shutting down those places and the businesses that use them.
  • by NiTr|c ( 130325 ) <hackop.inumbrate@net> on Wednesday August 03, 2005 @07:29PM (#13235993) Homepage
    Some people develop a bond with their animals. I'd spend whatever it took to help my cat. I, however, would never spend that type of money for another human being (relatives included). I'm sure some people would think I'm skewed in my perspective, but who are they to judge?

    So, just like you'll never understand how I can spend so much on an animal, I'll never understand how you could spend so much on a person, if in fact you would do so.
  • by demachina ( 71715 ) on Wednesday August 03, 2005 @07:34PM (#13236019)
    I hold nothing but extreme vitriol towards people that have children when there are so children that are out on the streets, starving and in orphanage's needing good homes. Same goes towards any religion that forbids birth control.

    People, please spay yourselves and don't allow your ego to perpetuate the suffering of homeless children.
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    by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Wednesday August 03, 2005 @08:09PM (#13236289)
    Comment removed based on user account deletion
  • by Deliveranc3 ( 629997 ) <deliverance@level4 . o rg> on Thursday August 04, 2005 @12:42AM (#13237581) Journal
    After being in Korea I found several other reasons to stop eating dog.

    #1 Koreans used to treat dogs terribly, since they are increadibly loyal beating them is rather unseemly.

    #2 People's pets were often stolen for the cooking pot... not pleasant.

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