Scientists Find Soft Tissue in T-Rex Fossil 978
douglips writes "Reuters is running a story about a shocking development in paleontology: A T-Rex thigh bone fossil was reluctantly broken to fit in a transport helicopter, and inside soft tissue was found. It appears to include blood vessels and bone cells. Scientists hope to isolate proteins, and perhaps even DNA."
News! (Score:4, Interesting)
Promising for archaeology (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Jurassic Park (Score:5, Interesting)
Metabolism (Score:4, Interesting)
Possible viruses? (Score:5, Interesting)
Young earth (Score:2, Interesting)
Crazy sounding 'but hear me out' prediction (Score:5, Interesting)
Sure, researchers will pioneer the basic technology, but the people who do the large scale cloning won't be theme park owners, scientists, or preservationists.
They'll be food producers.
We're at the top of the foodchain, and foods like Fugu (deadly blowfish), sushi, and... well, many asian dishes, prove that we're running out of new stuff to eat. There are amazing strides being made by cooks, and there are only so many things people can try before they die of old age, but more and more people are getting adventuresome and want to eat things that nobody else has.
Enter: The brontoburger.
Who here hasn't salivated at the thought of carving into a big old dinosaur steak? Who here can forget the longing eyes they cast on Fred Flintstone's car as it tipped over under the weight of the massive dino-ribs he had just ordered?
Predictions:
1. Herbivores of various types will be bred in captivity for their meat and leather.
2. The rich will beat a path to their doorstep for the exclusivity of eating prehistoric food.
3. In an almost defiant gesture of the universe, the meat will undoubtedly taste like chicken. Dinosaurs are, after all, big ol' birds by most reckoning.
You may laugh now, but when you're cleaning the last bit of Tony Romas Olde Fashioned Allosaurus (like grandpa used to make 'em) Ribs, remember where you heard it first. Or second, or whenever this message drifted across your desk.
A theory (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Thank god for Jurassic Park... (Score:5, Interesting)
The detail about T-Rex's having the inability to see moving objects was thrown in by Michael Crichton to support his belief that scientists' filling in the ancient dinosaur DNA gaps with modern-day amphibian DNA would lead to various "features" being transposed across the species. Some amphibians of today truly cannot see inanimate objects.
This was a necessary plot point in the story... Jurassic Park was designed to continue only with Human support (no natural breeding), but "nature found a way" when the abilities of some amphibians to spontaneously change sexes was found in the JP dinosaurs.
To recap, it wasn't a random guess... Just a plot twist by a clever author. There's no evidence to suggest that ancient dinosaurs couldn't see inanimate objects. Predators like T-Rex's probably couldn't survive like that.
Re:What about X-rays or MRI first (Score:1, Interesting)
You can't (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:Thank god for Jurassic Park... (Score:5, Interesting)
Birds too, I believe, cannot see things that do not move, and birds are believed to be whats left of dinosours as they evolved to today.
I've read that if it were possible for a human to control the natural eye jitteriness and just focus absolutely still, the image you see would fade away to nothing. The eye needs constant movement to be able to keep updating what you are seeing.
Re:But how? (Score:3, Interesting)
They'll likely clone cockroaches instead.
I think humans and mammoths will be cloned before any dinos. I'm looking forward to wild mammoths though, Canada has plenty of space for that.
Crack open more bones? (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:Crazy sounding 'but hear me out' prediction (Score:3, Interesting)
But seriously, the only lizard-like thing I've eaten is alligator and it's tasteless and tough. Sure, you can pound 'em out like a cheap steak and cover them with cajun spices, but what's the point?
Can they more accurately date the dinosaur now? (Score:4, Interesting)
100,000 Years... (Score:3, Interesting)
Jurasic Park and the idiot that wrote it have a lot to answer for when it comes to my annoyance and stress levels!
Re:See the MSNBC write-up (Score:1, Interesting)
"70-million-year-old fossil yields preserved blood vessels"
totally discarding this new discovery as relative to calculating it's age.
Re:So... (Score:3, Interesting)
Try Again.
Re:Precedent (Score:4, Interesting)
Usually paleontologists put preservatives on fossils right away, but Schweitzer has been trying to find soft tissue in dinosaur fossils, so this one was left alone.
Re:You can't (Score:1, Interesting)
Re:Peat Bogs (Score:3, Interesting)
Radioactive materials certainly occur naturally, and there are indeed cases of naturally-occuring nuclear reactors.
Only one, I believe.
It is entirely within the realms of possibility that natural radioactivity kept the inside of the bones sterilized, so that organic decay could not take place.
Could biological material really be kept irradiated enough to reliably cook bacteria for millions of years, but not get denatured itself? I guess anything's possible -- this could be a well-done dino -- but I'd happily take any bets tendered that radiation didn't have anything to do with this.
Re:Precedent (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Thank god for Jurassic Park... (Score:5, Interesting)
Take when you're driving, for instance. A car driving at the same speed as you in your blind spot is going to be hard to see when you turn your head before changing lanes. This is especially true of dark grey cars that can look similar to the road. If that car is moving either quicker or slower than you, then you can easily see it.
Re:Jurassic Park (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:You can't (Score:3, Interesting)
I could see DNA ending up in the same situation, patent-wise.
(Reference [fi.edu])
Re:Jurassic Park (Score:1, Interesting)
The breakdown you are referring to happens when the cells split to form new cells. If the cells aren't multiplying, the DNA's not breaking down. (At least not by the mechanism in question.)
Dinosaurs lived in a higher oxygenated world. (Score:4, Interesting)
-Steve
Re:Thank god for Jurassic Park... (Score:1, Interesting)
After figuring out the tiger was on 1/8" aircraft cable (hard to see from a distance), I found the owner and went to chat with him.
The tiger travelled with a stripper to various clubs. As the tiger approached, the owner assured me that if I just squatted down I could pet the tiger.
I ended up with a 500lb(?) tiger setting its head on my shoulder looking for a ear rub.
While enjoyable and definitely an experience to remember, when the tiger took it's last step towards me I thought I was going to become lunch and the urge to run was almost unbearable.
It also occurred to me if I did run I probably would be kitty chow.
Re:Seems like a good idea, but... (Score:2, Interesting)