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Futuristic 'Smart' Yarns from Carbon Nanotubes 216

neutron_p writes "Scientists at The UTD NanoTech Institute achieved a major technological breakthrough by spinning multi-walled carbon nanotube yarns that are strong, tough and extremely flexible, and are both electrically and thermally conducting. Among other things, the futuristic yarns could result in 'smart' clothing that stores electricity, provides ballistic protection and adjusts temperature and porosity to provide greater comfort. The breakthrough, made possible by, in effect, downsizing ancient technology used for wool and cotton spinning to the nanoscale, resulted from an unusual collaboration involving nanotechnologists and experts in wool spinning."
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Futuristic 'Smart' Yarns from Carbon Nanotubes

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  • CARBON Nanotubes (Score:1, Insightful)

    by freeze128 ( 544774 ) on Monday November 22, 2004 @01:31PM (#10889408)
    But wouldn't the sweater cause all this black ugly carbon to rub off on you?
  • Pressure tanks (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Tap-Sa ( 644107 ) on Monday November 22, 2004 @01:32PM (#10889418)
    Screw smart clothes... Hopefully this stuff can be made into next generation pressurised (200-300 atm) rocket fuel tanks. No turbopumps, reliable pressure fed engines without weight penalty in bulky tanks and cheap RLV is one important step closer to reality.
  • by irokie ( 697424 ) on Monday November 22, 2004 @01:36PM (#10889465) Homepage
    such small conductors

    Surely you mean semi-conductors...?
    explain to me how you'd make a computer out of conductors only

    i'm not being facetious, i'm genuinely interested...
  • by ThosLives ( 686517 ) on Monday November 22, 2004 @01:47PM (#10889596) Journal
    <soapbox>

    Now, as can be demonstrated by many of my previous posts, I'm all for pure and applied science. However, lately, I've been thinking quite a lot on the question "what good is technology?". Yes, building a space elevator would be cool. Yes, having light bulletproof vests would be cool. But how does this science help mankind? Does it improve agriculture? Does it help provide things people need? Does it help the environment? Does it help people get along better?

    I know these are questions that don't have easy answers always, and I know that if people thought about these things in a literal sense then we probably would not have a lot of the technology we currently have.

    My question is more of this: what research is being done into pure sciences and technology that does work for agriculture, health, the environment, and those types of things directly. Some technology simply supports those things indirectly by providing jobs, new materials, etc.

    What is lacking in a lot of science, though, and much of life in general, is a lack of focus. Even in the pure sciences, what's the goal of a particular project? Sometimes it's "to see how things work". Sometimes it's "we would like a better way to do X". There is no overarching goal for a lot of modern technology though - mostly it's just "we want a profit!" (Reminds me of the line from Star Trek: First Contact where Zefram Cochrane says he wasn't in it for science but for profit!)

    I am by most measures a successful person, but I've had to ask myself: what good is it? Not from a depressed standpoint, but a "shouldn't I be doing more?" standpoint. Carbon nanotubes are great, but what do they really give us? The list goes on - what do Linux desktops give us? MP3 players (without DRM, of course!)? Wi-Fi? These are all neat things - but do we have a purpose behind our technical passions?

    </soapbox>

  • Re:Knitting (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Tkaos ( 112433 ) on Monday November 22, 2004 @01:49PM (#10889609)
    I'd imagine only if she's got some serious time on her hands. How long would it take to knit a vest with nanothread?
  • by UWC ( 664779 ) on Monday November 22, 2004 @01:50PM (#10889616)
    You could ask the same question of diamond. It's all about the structure. If I remember a little piece from high school chemistry correctly, graphite's molecular structure is one of weakly bonded layers (I want to say that the layers are a hexagonal lattice, but I don't recall exactly) that are essentiallly scraped off in applications such as pencils.

    And I guess you were trying to be funny, which you were, but sometimes sarcastic tone doesn't travel well through text. Ah, well. Gave me a chance to flaunt my high school education.
  • by Have Blue ( 616 ) on Monday November 22, 2004 @01:59PM (#10889717) Homepage
    How long is it? Lots of nanotube work has been done before, but at microscopic lengths. Nanotubes won't be practical for anything until they can be made at a useful size.
  • Re:Finally... (Score:4, Insightful)

    by NoImNotNineVolt ( 832851 ) on Monday November 22, 2004 @02:01PM (#10889735) Homepage
    It's been established that single-walled carbon nanotube structures are the only viable candidate for making a tether with a sufficient strength/mass ratio.

    This spinning process seems to only apply to multi-walled nanotubes, at least according to what the submitter wrote.

    In other words, not quite.
  • by grungebox ( 578982 ) on Monday November 22, 2004 @02:03PM (#10889764) Homepage
    Comparing Carbon nanotubes to MP3 players is like comparing the transistor to a Radio Flyer wagon.

    CNTs are like lasers. When the laser was invented in 1955 or so (someone correct me), it was billed as a "solution looking for a problem." No one knew what the hell to do with it. Naturally, it being the Cold War, most research money was pumped into Star Wars-style blasters...but now look at all the work done with lasers. Surgery, trace gas detection for pollution controls, CD players, DVD players, spectroscopy for materials science, the list goes on. The point is that CNT research is very early. Hell, nanotubes weren't known to exist until 1990 or so. This is one breakthrough out of about a billion or so possible with Carbon Nanotubes. Don't judge the technology based on the premise of "fancy clothing." Hell, the point of the link isn't the clothing part; it's the fact that a new fabrication method was invented that would improve production (and thus, deployment) of nanotubes by orders of magnitude. It's like finding a new way to make lasers on a broad scale instead of slowly making them by hand like in 1960. What you do with the plethora of nanotubes or lasers or what have you is up to you.
  • by MenTaLguY ( 5483 ) on Monday November 22, 2004 @02:32PM (#10889990) Homepage
    Somehow I have a feeling the ultrafine fiber fragments shed by these yarns or fabrics made from them with age and wear won't be so happy biologically.

    Generally small particles or fillaments of any material smaller than a certain size are bad for you if inhaled (i.e. Pneumoconiosis), regardless of their composition.

    Additionally, if fiber fragments are short and fine enough, you essentially have little needle-like objects that can do a lot of damage directly at the cellular level.

    So, not that I'm being pessimistic or anything, but in the long term I don't think it'll remain an everyday item. It might hit the open market for a while, but a few decades of cancer studies, toxicoligical studies and lawsuits would likely bring an end to that.

    While my guesses are just that, there are a few discouraging signs [cwru.edu] in research to date. Watch this area; we'll see whether further results warrant concern or not.

    To be clear, I think this technology should certainly be pursued, but we need to be guarded in our optimisim regarding its widespread applicability.
  • Re:Due to my Font (Score:1, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 22, 2004 @02:33PM (#10890003)
    If ever any overlords ever needed welcoming, it'd be Smart Yam overlords

    Didn't Pak Protectors eat yams to reach that state? If anything is a smart yam, that would be.

  • by MenTaLguY ( 5483 ) on Monday November 22, 2004 @02:52PM (#10890183) Homepage
    The first airplanes, in particular, were often made with cloth stretched over a wooden or metal frame.
  • Re:Knitting (Score:3, Insightful)

    by aussie_a ( 778472 ) on Monday November 22, 2004 @08:18PM (#10893581) Journal
    And I'm sure you have links to back up that claim.

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