Third World Research, Development & Innovation 222
tovarish writes "It is nice to see that countries like India are trying to research communication techniques in backward and rural areas. While tech savvy people like us enjoy the latest gadgets it is quite a challenge to develop gadgets which actually help the poor and illiterate. While India's satellite launches and outsourcing news are already covered in slashdot umpteen times, sometimes her sensible achievements should be covered too."
Newsflash!!! (Score:4, Informative)
The Sudan is 3rd world
Re:Newsflash!!! (Score:3, Informative)
peace.
Re:waitaminute (Score:2, Informative)
refer specifically to itself. They INVENTED
the term.
US + NATO == first world
Russia + Warsaw pact == second wold
Non aligned == third world (including the swiss)
Re:Worlds (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Worlds (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Third World.. (Score:1, Informative)
Re:Must be hard... (Score:5, Informative)
We also cannot have an un-elected leader so our current PM has to win a seat in either our lower house (Lok Sabha) or the higher house (Rajya Sabha).
Please keep to the topic.
We are a democratic country. As for achievements is concerned, here is one - Electronic Voting Machines that was used for our last general elections without any trouble. While a developed democracy is a laughing stock of the world because of its 2000 presidential ballot problems in Florida.
India's space activities, a short summary (Score:4, Informative)
India also launches satellites meant for polar orbits (the IRS series, for instance) from her own soil, has been for some years now.
The latest news in India's space program is the launch of a geo-synchronous satellite (Edusat) that seems to have gotten attention at
But that's just the latest news; as I said, India's been in space for nearly 30 years now.
Re:Newsflash!!! (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Wrong Topic ??? (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Why does India need hi-tech just to survive? (Score:5, Informative)
Population: 1,065,070,607
Japan:
Population: 127,214,499
(from wikipedia).
Please keep these facts in mind before saying anything.
India faced three wars immediately after partition. Two with Pakistan and one with China. Japan didn't face any. Nuclear weapons were a necessity for India.
India has 21+ different official languages. Japan has one. The space program helped put educational and weather satellites in place. And India now sells satellite launches.
It's extremely convenient to compare India and Japan, but it's really a wrong comparison.
Re:Newsflash!!! (Score:3, Informative)
D'oh! Perhaps you meant developing/under-developed/whatever?
Re:Why stale references to MLA? (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Query: (Score:1, Informative)
IT'S OFFSHORING! NOT OUTSOURCING!
Offshoring can INCLUDE outsourcing, but they are not the same thing. We can only thank our wonderful news media for this.
Re:Must be hard... (Score:5, Informative)
Rubbish. India has been self-sufficient in food since the early 1970s. Some aid for health, education and infrastructure does come in, but even that is mostly loans, not "handouts". American and Japanese aid comes with too many ridiculous strings attached, India learned long ago not to get too entrapped with it. As for the nukes: America was worried about war with a country on the other side of the world. India has gone to war with two countries on its borders, one of whom (China) is truly the 800lb gorilla of Asia with whom there continue to be unresolved border disputes, and is an acknowledged nuclear power. You saying India has less right than the USA to nukes? I don't like nukes either, but let's abolish them all, maybe step by step, rather than say the big five can keep what they have and make more while they're at it.
Re:Why does India need hi-tech just to survive? (Score:0, Informative)
Japan has 3 times the population density of India. India failed because of the choices that the Indian people made.
Here are bogus excuses by an Indian.
1. India has military threats.
RESPONSE: There is no need for nuclear weapons. South Korea has a threat from North Korea. South Korea does not have a massive nuclear weapons program.
2. India has 21 official languages.
RESPONSE: What nonsense is this? That is a problem of choice. Again, Indians are huge failures because they deliberately make the wrong choices. There is nothing to prevent them from having a unified official language.
3. India earns money by selling space launches.
RESPONSE: Those launches apparently do not earn enough money to lift the Indian economy into a 1st world society. The Indians deliberately destroyed their economy (and society) by not allowing free enterprise and capitalism for 40+ years. If the Japanese had followed the Indian bigots in developing Japan, stifling the economy but developing successful space launches, Japan would still be impoverished. Note that Japan is a barren rock, lacking in natural resources, but Indian is resource rich. The Japanese made the right choices and turned the rock into a wealthy society. The Indians destroyed their own society.
Note that this Indian bigot does not even address the lopsided female-to-male ratio. That ratio is due entirely to barbaric Indian culture. No one put a gun to the head of an Indian pig and forced him to kill the female babies.
Even impoverished Vietnam has a normal ratio.
Re:Newsflash!!! (Score:3, Informative)
This reminds me of a conversation I had with an Indian woman at work who came from a very wealthy family (she was the only woman in her class at IIT). She tried to tell me that since the Caste System had been "officially" abolished there no longer *was* a caste system in India. Clearly not the case. The caste system is still very much alive in India, "officially" or not. Kinda like how there is still racism in America even though we've outlawed slavery.
Re:Why does India need hi-tech just to survive? (Score:2, Informative)
Just $3200 ?? !!! (Score:2, Informative)
$3200 is insanely high for any indian school to afford. this is probably more than the entire IT spending budget in an year for a small school. u can buy cheap computers in india for around 250$, but computers are still cheaper in USA for similar configuration.
The main problem with india is there is that most of the people in rural areas dont even know what the internet is, forget a computer. they definitely cant afford a computer, and internet connections are waaaayy too expensive, even for the "city" people. do u know any indian who stays online for "24 hours" from Home ?? Its just not affordible.
So i guess the first thing to do there would to reduce the cost of internet/infrastructure (just like they did for cell-phones) and then look for finding innovative devices to use it.
BTW, just in case u dont know, the price of gas in india is around 5$ per gallon (people in rural areas earn around 30$ per month) ! So much for "low costs".
Re:Query: (Score:1, Informative)
Oh yeah, I'm supposed to believe that trade with other nations had no contribution to USA's wealth
Let's see
Manhattan project to build the atomic bomb. Wright brothers wouldnt have built their airplane if it wasnt for Otto Lilienthal. And then there's the fact that Einstein was German born. You wouldnt have computers if it wasnt for Turing, John Von Neumann, etc. who were foreigners educated outside the USA.
Imagine none of that knowledge being allowed into the USA?
So please, dont get pissed off if people in other countries can do your work for you cheaper
So ultimately, you
So it's ok for YOU to leech off America ?
Indians are not leeching off America. They are accepting what is being OFFERED. I'd like to see you turn down a pay raise?
Quit bitching about others trying to better themselves
Re:Stories about India are flamebait (Score:3, Informative)
Indians have lived for over 1000 years under foreign rule and yet have managed to maintain their languages, religions, culture and lots more.
India always was a golden bird, to many people from the persians to the British.
Hence to label India poor is incorrect, especially since most of it wealth was literally stolen by the British during their 200 years rule over India, a large portion of which was done during the second world war. Many of us feel sad for the holocaust during the WW II. The british have openly condemned this act. However, what they very comfortably manage to ignore is the fact that due to the "stealing" of money from India, over 3.5 million indians died due to starvation between 1942-1943. Some Indian historians have called this the hidden holocaust. Hence, before praising the allied efforts in the war, we might want to check all the history related to war, invloving countries which werent directly related to it.