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Scientists Define Murphy's Law 324

Jesrad writes "A mathematician, a psychologist and an economist commissioned by British Gas have finally put into mathematical terms what we all knew: that things don't just go wrong, they do so at the most annoying moment.The formula, ((U+C+I) x (10-S))/20 x A x 1/(1-sin(F/10)), indicates that to beat Murphy's Law (a.k.a. Sod's Law) you need to change one of the parameter: U for urgency, C for complexity, I for importance, S for skill, F for frequency and A for aggravation. Or in the researchers' own words: "If you haven't got the skill to do something important, leave it alone. If something is urgent or complex, find a simple way to do it. If something going wrong will particularly aggravate you, make certain you know how to do it." Don't you like it when maths back up common sense ?"
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Scientists Define Murphy's Law

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  • IT'S A JOKE! (Score:5, Informative)

    by grasshoppa ( 657393 ) on Sunday October 10, 2004 @12:26PM (#10486335) Homepage
    Notice the foot? It's supposed to be a somewhat humorous little blurb about something silly.

    What a fun crowd we've got around here on Sunday...
  • I usually cut Slashdot editorial some slack, but this is over the top. It's just a link to a tedious example of bad journalism as it stands. It should not have been posted as it stands. There's nothing to discuss.

    Experts at British Gas indeed. Why? How? No one is even telling us the quantity that is being calculated in this dubious formula.

    If you don't know, guys, kindly don't pass it on. So far it's just noise. Here's a slightly better link [scotsman.com], but still not, in my opinion, enough to bother with.

  • by xyz(void) ( 589270 ) on Sunday October 10, 2004 @12:39PM (#10486400)
    Statistically it might be possible to describe this properly, if such a relationship did in fact exist. The problem here is that all the variables seem to be ordinal values and they give no instructions on how to convert them into cardinal values in terms of their function. That makes it also quite interesting how they got the constatants. On the other hand would every properly derived formula suggest that the implied relationship does not exist. Then again that seems quite boring.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 10, 2004 @12:49PM (#10486461)
    According to the article, it is indeed 1-sin(F/10).

    If you were trying to use a trigonometric identity here, be aware that 1-(sin(x)^2) = cos(x)^2 is the correct one, not 1-sin(x) = cos(x),

    Math pedants strike again!
  • Close (Score:5, Informative)

    by Minwee ( 522556 ) <dcr@neverwhen.org> on Sunday October 10, 2004 @01:01PM (#10486530) Homepage
    If that actually were Murphy's Law [wikipedia.org], then that would be an impressive story.

    It's not, it's not the same thing as Sod's Law, and the law you're thinking of is Finagle's.

    Ironicly, having it called Murphy's Law by a reporter from the Courier-Mail is an example of Murphy's Law.

  • Re:equals (Score:5, Informative)

    by Coryoth ( 254751 ) on Sunday October 10, 2004 @01:13PM (#10486593) Homepage Journal
    Those axioms are observations. One important observation, one of two axioms underpinning all of math (and therefore science), is "consistency". The other is falsifiability, that only statements that can be proven false are scientific - the rest are metaphysical. Math such as "all triangles are composed of three interior angles totaling 180 degrees" is an observation, that is supported by theories and constructions. Physics applies math by interpreting the mathematical relationships in observed phenomena.

    I suggest you go and read some Bertrand Russell on philisophy of mathematics. Mathematics isn't based on observation at all. It's based on what axioms you choose to start with and using deductive logic from there - and you would be very surprised about how basic and not based on observation the funcamental axioms of mathematics are, presuming you bother to look at works that build up math from as small a foundation as possible. On that front, I would suggest you look at Principia Mathematica by Russell and Whitehead, which is pretty much the book on purest mathematical foundations.

    Jedidiah.
  • by Jesrad ( 716567 ) on Sunday October 10, 2004 @01:39PM (#10486735) Journal
    My bad, the news.com.au story dropped the last paragraph of the original story [sbs.com.au]:

    The equation has seven steps to forecasting a potential Murphy's Law moment, so you can work out which factors you need to change to avoid it:

    1. Rate the urgency, importance and complexity on a scale of one to nine and add the three figures together.
    2. Rate from one to nine how skilled you are at the task, then subtract this from 10.
    3. Multiply answers to 1 and 2 and divide by 20.
    4. Rate from one to nine how frequently you perform the task and divide this by 10.
    5. Rate the sine (or sin) of your answer to step 4 and subtract this from 1.
    6. Divide 1 by your answer to step 5.
    7. Multiply your answer to step 3 by 0.7 and multiply this by your answer to step 6, and that's your Murphy's Law rating.

    The closer to 10 it is, the higher your risk of falling victim.


    That's what's being calculated. I should have provided the SBS link instead.
  • Re:Bullcrap (Score:3, Informative)

    by ISaidItOmega ( 792820 ) on Sunday October 10, 2004 @02:12PM (#10486954)
    Actually, most people have the wrong impression of what Murphy's Law actually is. It doesn't state that things go wrong at the worst moments, it states that if there exists the possibility that something can go wrong, then it eventually will. Murphy developed it when he was working on the reliability of systems as a function of their components:

    [lim(L -> infinity)][P(L < infinity|some component has a positive failure rate)] = 1 where L is the lifetime of the system

  • by StateOfTheUnion ( 762194 ) on Sunday October 10, 2004 @02:42PM (#10487101) Homepage
    It amazes me that many here think that the formula is merely a joke . . . perhaps this is a humorous formula, but similar formulas are used in the manufacturing industry to prioritize problems and issues in manufacturing. Problems are related to one another by ranking their relative severity, detectability and frequency . . . sometime also cost factors or normal maintenance factors are included.

    These factors are often multiplied together to result in a number that is used to prioritize the limited funds available to process improvement or maintenance.

    These ideas are not new . . . they were developed by Japanese manufacturers and the US auto industry decades ago . . They are called Failure Modes and Effects Analyses. They are often used in conjunction with statisical process control efforts to reduce variability and downtime.

  • by sqwrell ( 820572 ) on Sunday October 10, 2004 @03:52PM (#10487489)
    INTERESTING ADDENDUM FROM RBL (first featured in RBL's KISS Guide to
    Windows, 1999): http://rblevin.net

    It's ironic. One of the world's favorite axioms on the inevitability of
    failure is itself an example of such inevitability. It's Murphy's Law, most
    often stated as "anything that can go wrong, will." The irony: That's not
    Murphy's Law at all. It's "Finagle's Law of Dynamic Negatives," devised by
    the famous science fiction author Larry Niven. The real Murphy's Law was
    coined sometime around 1949 by USAF engineer Edward A. Murphy Jr.

    Murphy was part of a team of USAF engineers working on a project that tested
    the effects of extreme G-forces on the human body. One such test involved
    mounting 16 sensors to 16 different parts of the test subject's body. Each
    sensor could be connected in one of two ways: Correctly or incorrectly. On
    the first run, a technician installed all 16 sensors backwards, after which
    Murphy issued his now-famous maxim: "If there are two or more ways to do
    something, and one of those ways can result in a catastrophe, then someone
    will do it." Someone did, and now Finagle's Law is almost always misrepresented as Murphy's.
  • Re:equals (Score:2, Informative)

    by bodius ( 754292 ) on Sunday October 10, 2004 @03:55PM (#10487503) Homepage
    I would just like to note that you have correctly stated the modern view of mathematics, but before the modern view mathematics was much more based on intuitive observations. Euclidean geometry was very much grounded in the intuitive observations of space. Although there was still an emphasis on the process of deduction, mathematics then was still related to observation. It was only until the axioms of Euclidean geometry were studied and challenged that mathematics started to be viewed simply as the logical consequences of deduction from axioms. This was because after challenging the axioms of Euclid, Non-Euclidean geometries were created, in which the axioms did not obey our normal intuitive observations. Thus the focus shifted to the deduction process from the axioms, rather than the intuitive meaning of the axioms. For a more detailed account of this movement, I refer you to a book by Howard Eves called Foundations and Fundamental Concepts of Mathematics [amazon.com] .
  • by da3dAlus ( 20553 ) <dustin.grauNO@SPAMgmail.com> on Sunday October 10, 2004 @04:22PM (#10487641) Homepage Journal
    For those that didn't RTFM, the value for each variable should be on a scale of 1-9, with 9 being very high. A (aggrivation) should be 0.7 as set after the study. I put together something in PHP [dyndns.org] just to do the work for me. The biggest variable seems to be skill--with all others set to very high (9) it certainly "proves" that an idiot can totally screw stuff up.
  • by gwm ( 310320 ) on Sunday October 10, 2004 @05:03PM (#10487833)
    For a fascinating read on the origins of Murphy's law, check out

    http://www.improb.com/airchives/paperair/volume9 /v 9i5/murphy/murphy0.html
  • by databyss ( 586137 ) on Sunday October 10, 2004 @06:55PM (#10488499) Homepage Journal
    True, except Money != Root(evil)

    The love of money is the root of all evil... according to the quote.

    Althought the integral of e^x = F(u^n)
  • by swillden ( 191260 ) * <shawn-ds@willden.org> on Monday October 11, 2004 @01:30AM (#10490421) Journal

    The hermetic nature of basic math is from a limitation of mathematicians, us, rather than math itself.

    You've got it backwards. This joke doesn't illustrate a weakness of mathematical thinking, it illustrates a key strength. Mathematics is all about precise, rigorous reasoning, and that's what makes it both useful and beautiful. Fuzzy thinking that makes unnecessary assumptions limits the thought processes and closes off interesting lines of investigation. What if the the sheep *was* black only on one side? What might that imply? Or is it possible to demonstrate that a sheep that is black on one side must therefore be entirely black? Avoiding assumptions is a good thing, a way to free your mind, not to limit it. Even better is to go ahead and make assumptions, with the clear understanding of what you are assuming and see where it leads. You can even make assumptions that are counter to observed facts and see where that goes (e.g. non-Euclidean geometry -- which turns out to be highly useful in the real world -- was created in the midst of an attempt to demonstrate that Euclid's parallel postulate must be "true" because to assume otherwise leads to contradictions -- only it doesn't).

    I'm a mathematician* and I think that joke spreads a valuable and important meme. Don't counter it, clarify it.

    *Speaking of precision: Perhaps I shouldn't call myself a mathematician. I have a BS in Mathematics (pure, not applied or any somesuch) which doesn't so much make me a mathematician as someone who once wanted to be a mathematician. I still occasionally study a little math for fun.

  • by Dabido ( 802599 ) on Monday October 11, 2004 @02:18AM (#10490646)
    The precise quote:

    1 Timothy 6:10

    "For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs."

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