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13 Energy Drinks In 3 Sessions 374

circletimessquare writes "As a member of the cult of caffeine, as I suspect many Slashdot readers are, I was pleasantly amused by this story in The New York Times entitled Opening 13 Cans of Whoop (reg req). Our brave reporter sucks down a number of energy drinks of various parentages and gives us the lowdown on their taste, appearance, ingredients, overall effect, and dubious appeal. Example: 'At this point, my energy level was not only elevated, it was speeding toward the red line. I felt myself staring holes through my computer screen, typing at five times my normal rate and thinking far too creatively about life questions like how many AA batteries I needed to buy when I went to the drug store. My mood was chipper. Too chipper.'"
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13 Energy Drinks In 3 Sessions

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  • Reg Free (Score:5, Informative)

    by bendelo ( 737558 ) * on Saturday May 22, 2004 @06:38PM (#9226786)
    Here's a registration free link [nytimes.com] thanks to Google [google.com].
  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 22, 2004 @06:51PM (#9226847)
    jolt cola was limited to 72mg dose of caffine per 12 oz soda do to food laws. (at least in the USA)

    which ironicly is less then coffee can be (normally 65-175 mg per 8 oz serving) and less then espresso (100mg per 1.5-2oz)

    http://www.freshcoffee.com/html/caffaq-1.html

    these energy drinks are not "soda" to get around the limit.

    LD50 for caffine is 150mg/kg
    (take your weight in kg * 150mg of caffine = a dose that has a 50% chance of killing you)

    200 pounds = 90.7 kilograms => 13.6 grams
    100 pounds = 45.3 kilograms => 6.8 grams

  • Re:Whatever (Score:3, Informative)

    by molafson ( 716807 ) on Saturday May 22, 2004 @06:51PM (#9226850)
    "Smoking crystal meth [cdnaids.ca] has the quickest effect, within 7 to 10 seconds, as the vapors enter the lungs, and are absorbed rapidly through the blood vessels lining the lungs, and then get pumped throughout the body and brain."
  • by PeterPumpkin ( 777678 ) on Saturday May 22, 2004 @06:56PM (#9226869) Journal
  • by iLL_L0gic ( 607165 ) on Saturday May 22, 2004 @07:08PM (#9226917)
    Honestly folks, out of all of us nerdy caffeine freaks, who hasn't tried the suculant taste of Bawls energy drink? I have sampled all of the major drinks on the market, and Bawls ranks in the top three on Taste, Power, and Look (Come on, the bottle is awesome). Do they not sell this stuff in New York? It would have been the one of the top three I'm sure.
  • Re:Whatever (Score:2, Informative)

    by mog007 ( 677810 ) <Mog007@gm a i l . c om> on Saturday May 22, 2004 @07:11PM (#9226928)
    I'm not a chemist or biologist, but I do know that just about every drug has a smoked form. If crystal meth can be vaporized by the energy from a lighter, it could most certainly be inhaled through the respiratory system and absorbed into the blood stream. No telling what kind of damage it would do to a person's lungs, and the high wouldn't come as fast as snorting it, but it certainly is possible.

    As for energy, if you're that desperate for caffine just get some soda. A two liter bottle of Dr. Pepper is certainly cheaper than these energy drinks, and I've yet to try an energy drink that tastes as good. With the exception of Jolt, but Jolt is just soda with more caffine, not really an energy drink. It doesn't claim those bogus ingrediants like Taurine and Guarana.
  • Re:caffeine (Score:5, Informative)

    by The Analog Kid ( 565327 ) on Saturday May 22, 2004 @07:13PM (#9226935)
    Caffeine is actually benefical, it can help reduce asthma attacks, it helps prevent stone formation, it can help reduce the risk of colon cancer and it's an anti-oxident. There are a lot of others which I won't post here, but a quick googling will turn them up, but sure, too much caffeine like anything is bad for you.
  • Re:It's Norwegian. (Score:2, Informative)

    by arabagast ( 462679 ) on Saturday May 22, 2004 @07:19PM (#9226957) Homepage
    this is probably meant to be "blå", which is the norwegian word for "blue". Never seen it in the stores here though..

    From negative to postive in one day - neat :>
  • by Fishstick ( 150821 ) on Saturday May 22, 2004 @07:26PM (#9226992) Journal
    By Heath's calculation, the amount of ecgonine [an alkaloid in the coca leaf that could be synthesized to create cocaine] was infinitesimal: no more than one part in 50 million. In an entire year's supply of 25-odd million gallons of Coca-Cola syrup, Heath figured, there might be six-hundredths of an ounce of cocaine.

    So, yes, at one time there was cocaine in Coca-Cola. But before you're tempted to run off claiming Coca-Cola turned generations of drinkers into dope addicts, consider the following: back in 1885 it was far from uncommon to use cocaine in patent medicines (which is what Coca-Cola was originally marketed as) and other medical potions. When it first became general knowledge that cocaine could be harmful, the backroom chemists who comprised Coca-Cola at the time (long before it became the huge company we now know) did everything they could with the technology they had available at the time to remove every trace of cocaine from the beverage. What was left behind (until the technology improved enough for it all to be removed) wasn't enough to give a fly a buzz.
  • by LaBlueCow ( 768184 ) <rdragone@adelphia.net> on Saturday May 22, 2004 @07:28PM (#9226999)
    Well, since I put my threshold on -1 and formatted to flat, I've noticed a lot more of these soviet-russia comments. It was amusing at best to begin with, but come on folks, enough is enough...
  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 22, 2004 @07:31PM (#9227009)
    Never get drunk on these. Nothing worse then being drunk and not being able to sleep it off due to all the caffine in your system!
  • Re:Dehydration... (Score:5, Informative)

    by DavittJPotter ( 160113 ) on Saturday May 22, 2004 @08:06PM (#9227134) Homepage Journal
    Indeed, drinking too much water is toxic
    Yes, but.....

    From webmd.com:

    You would need to chug down about three quarts of water or more all at once to come down with a case of true water intoxication. It does happen, but so rarely that I couldn't find statistics on the number of cases. These people become drowsy, lightheaded, and weak. They have trouble coordinating bodily movements and thinking straight, looking and feeling as if they just stumbled out of the local bar.
  • Re:Dehydration... (Score:2, Informative)

    by molafson ( 716807 ) on Saturday May 22, 2004 @08:14PM (#9227158)
    There is a condition called hyponatraemia [runnersworld.co.uk] that can affect elite endurance athletes. I believe it occurs when someone sweats profusely (losing essential minerals through the sweat like sodium and potassium), and then drinks plain water, which further dilutes the serum level of these minerals.
  • Re:Whatever (Score:3, Informative)

    by Eil ( 82413 ) on Saturday May 22, 2004 @08:17PM (#9227172) Homepage Journal

    (a) Eating nutritiously and sparingly,

    I want to add to this: Eat lots and lots of uncooked vegetables. You seriously can't have too many. Most of us are familiar with eating habits that tend to go with the geek lifestyle: TV dinners, ramen, spaghetti-o's, fast food, and soda (pop) by the truckload.

    However, when I made a conscious effort to start eating raw vegetables with *every* meal (and not just a carrot or so a day), I noticed that I started having fewer headaches, had more energy, and just generally felt all-around healthier. Now, if I don't eat my veggies, I find that those symptoms come right back. Carrots, celery, lettuce, and green peppers are almost always staples in my fridge.

    Another thing while I'm on the soapbox: Drink water in lieu of pop and fruit juice. Almost any sweet beverage you can buy at the supermarket will dehydrate you more than it will hydrate you thanks to all the added sugar they put in those things. If you have frequent headaches and your pee doesn't come almost clear 9 times out of 10, then you're chronically dehydrated. Gatorade is okay, but only after a good workout. Otherwise, water is going to hydrate you best.
  • by fermion ( 181285 ) on Saturday May 22, 2004 @08:22PM (#9227189) Homepage Journal
    Everyone is different. The general rule is that your body needs proper sleep and nutrition and excersise. If you sit all day, don't sleep, and eat McDonalds, it is not really going to matter whether you drink water or coke. You are screwed.

    I do not buy the idea that caffiene is always bad. For some people, in some situations, it is good. For some people it is not a stimulant. The issue is that some people use it as thier primary from of liquid consumption. Which is bad.

    The other point is that only water is water. Traces of minerals, and even flavor, is good and neccesary. Truly "pure" water (DI) will leech nutrients out of your body. But if you are going to drink water, the fortified stuff is probably a waste of money.

    To the comment of water toxicity. It is an issue. The NYT recently had a case study of such a incident. In that case, a person who was worried about dehydration in sauna drank too much water. It screwed up his electrolytes. Most us will drink several glasses of water over a day, which is good.

    The thing that I learned from my father is cut all drinks about 50% with water. Juices and soft drinks tend to be strong.

  • by E_elven ( 600520 ) on Saturday May 22, 2004 @08:36PM (#9227250) Journal
    This was common even in the early 1900's -cocaine was used in veritable amounts most children's and adults' cough medicines, sleeping aids (!), some headache medicines and -I believe- in some tuberchulosis medicines. The use of cocaine was banned after some of the harsher withdrawal and side-effects had started manifesting in a considerable part of the population. Coca-cola, also, had a considerable quotient of cocaine in it.
  • by Deadstick ( 535032 ) on Saturday May 22, 2004 @08:45PM (#9227287)
    When I was a kid in the 1940s our neighborhood druggist, Mr. Murphy, was still keeping heroin under the counter for his elderly customers...I'm fairly sure I was given some once or twice circa 1947. Grandma's "medical book" spoke quite highly of it.

    r "Dang, that feels better" j
  • Re:caffeine (Score:5, Informative)

    by duffel ( 779835 ) on Saturday May 22, 2004 @08:48PM (#9227299)
    Indeed. Most people don't realise it is actually physically addictive.

    Adenosine is a chemical messenger that tells cells to slow down. Caffeine, being structurally similar, can block adenosine receptors in the brain, and thus prevent this slowdown.

    However, your brain cells compensate to prolonged exposure by creating more and more adenosine receptors... meaning that you'll be really tired unless you block them with caffeine. Repeat ad addictum.

    Check here [utexas.edu] and here [kidzworld.com] for more info.

    On a more personal note, I always find that drinking something with tons of sugars in it keeps me active far longer than caffeine alone. Caffeine just makes me burn through my energy reserves faster, resulting in me being even more tired after a while.
  • by Sv1ad ( 779056 ) on Saturday May 22, 2004 @08:54PM (#9227329)
    SECONDED. And another warning: because both alcohol and caffeine have diuretic effects with vodka and red bull you lose twice the amount of water and so the resultant hangover hits you twice as hard. Personal recommendation from experience: double vodka and red bull is a favourite of mine, but keep the water coming too. The hangover I got from the first time I did a night on these was MONUMENTAL.
  • Re:Cheaper maybe... (Score:5, Informative)

    by scum-e-bag ( 211846 ) on Saturday May 22, 2004 @09:07PM (#9227388) Homepage Journal
    Yeah, that's what I was doing for a few years... slam down a red bull toward the end of the night and pull an extra hour or two, get some more $$$. An extra two hours gave me an extra $80 no problems, or so I thought.

    Last Christmas it all caught up with me when I had an epileptic fit and woke up finding myself in the emergency section of the hostpital unable to walk. I was lucky that I only tore my back muscles and didn't break my spine from the violent jerking involved with the siezure. The only reason given to me for this fit, by the various doctors I saw, was that it occured due to my working hours and that I was pushing my body to the limit. They all told me to slow down before I killed myself or someone else. I am only 29.

    Be carefull with your use/abuse of these products. It can cost you more in the long run. I was only having two of these things a day at the most.
  • by Galvatron ( 115029 ) on Saturday May 22, 2004 @09:18PM (#9227430)
    This chart [ox.ac.uk] gives a listing on the various LD numbers. The two notes on adult humans: lowest recorded lethal oral dose was 192 g/kg, and the lowest recoreded lethal IV dose was 57 mg/kg.
  • by SEE ( 7681 ) on Saturday May 22, 2004 @09:25PM (#9227460) Homepage
    there is no substitute for honest to goodness sleep.

    Sure there is. It's called Provigil. It's not a stimulant and it doesn't give you "energy". It just relieves the need for sleep.
  • Re:caffeine (Score:2, Informative)

    by nelsonal ( 549144 ) on Saturday May 22, 2004 @09:40PM (#9227497) Journal
    So are Tropicana and Aqua Fina. Dasani and MinuteMaid are owned by Coke. I might have the water brands swapped. If it's non-alchaholic, national, and liquid. You should probably assume that one of the two owns it. Jones Cola and Snapple (was owned by Quaker Oats, but they sold it to someone else a bit ago. CadburrySchwepps is another exception (they own DrPepper/7Up.
  • Re:Cheaper maybe... (Score:2, Informative)

    by nelsonal ( 549144 ) on Saturday May 22, 2004 @09:45PM (#9227521) Journal
    This isn't jet were talking about. It is addictive but if you have a cup occasionally it's not gonna kill you. Best way to tell you have built up tolerance (and should stop for a while) don't have coffee one weekend if you get a headache, stop.
  • by Black Acid ( 219707 ) on Saturday May 22, 2004 @10:10PM (#9227603)
    All contain caffeine, guarana or a combination of both. (Guarana, a berry found in the Amazon, has a stimulant effect similar to caffeine's.) Some use ginseng as well, for extra stimulation.

    Maybe that is because guarana is caffeine? Actually, guarana (Paullinia cupana) is a plant, which according to Erowid contains 5% caffeine [erowid.org] from which it derives its stimulant effects. There is no alternative to caffeine named guarana. Wikipedia's article on guarana [wikipedia.org] has more information. Yet more misinformation from the Times.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 22, 2004 @11:01PM (#9227774)
    Tell me of your homeworld where eating 20mg of caffeine would be anywhere near the toxicity of eating 250mg? And how many grams of the yellow jacket does he need to hit the 1g daily limit? 50?

  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 22, 2004 @11:36PM (#9227871)
    I've seen this joke stated wrong(ly?) far too many times.

    The actual Steven Wright joke is:

    I put instant coffee in a microwave oven and almost went back in time.

    The key word is 'almost'. That's what makes it funny.
  • Re:Whatever (Score:5, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 23, 2004 @01:47AM (#9228179)
    Almost any sweet beverage you can buy at the supermarket will dehydrate you more than it will hydrate you thanks to all the added sugar they put in those things

    False. 100%, completely, absolutely, totally false. Sugar does not contribute to dehydration except insofar as it may contribute to diarrhea.

    Sugar doesn't interferes with the takeup of water; is even specifically added to oral rehydration treatments because it improves bodily takeup. And the metabolization of sugar releases water, rather than taking it up.
  • Re:Huh? (Score:3, Informative)

    by The Evil Couch ( 621105 ) on Sunday May 23, 2004 @01:59AM (#9228208) Homepage
    your body requires water to transport sugar molecules through cell walls, on a one for one, basis. so, sugar will take water away from other tasks. it won't remove it from your body, but it will inhibit hydration.

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