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Japanese Inventor's Motor Uses 80% Less Power 1095

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from the skeptical-eye-on-the-science-guy dept.
novakane007 writes "A Japanese inventor named Kohei Minato has created a new kind of motor. It uses magnetism to perpetuate the motor motion. As a result the motors uses 80% less energy than a conventional motor, while still maintaing the same horsepower. "Minato assures us that he hasn't transcended the laws of physics. The force supplying the unexplained extra power out is generated by the magnetic strength of the permanent magnets embedded in the rotor. 'I'm simply harnessing one of the four fundamental forces of nature,' he says." On top of the energy savings the motor runs cool to the touch and is significantly quieter than a tradtitionally powered fan. Sound to good to be true? Well he's already started selling the fan to a chain of convience stores in Japan. Hopefully soon the design will make it in to your home PC, allowing them to run much quieter."
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Japanese Inventor's Motor Uses 80% Less Power

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 15, 2004 @03:48PM (#8873619)
    Uh, no thanks. :)
  • by wawannem (591061) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @03:49PM (#8873632) Homepage
    Heh, This guy will soon end up in the oil company holding cell with the guy trying to make a porcelain engine that runs on water.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 15, 2004 @03:49PM (#8873641)
    Quiet vibrators..
  • Mm hm (Score:1, Funny)

    by Duke Machesne (453316) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @03:49PM (#8873647)
    How long you figure before this guy gets knocked off?
  • by grub (11606) <slashdot@grub.net> on Thursday April 15, 2004 @03:50PM (#8873657) Homepage Journal

    Only 20% of the power of a conventional motor? The next glaringly obvious step is to figure out a way to make CPUs out of these motors. Rather than GHz, they would be rated on RPMs. Dell will market them as the "Magnetron". These next generation computers will never randomly fall from desks as the gyroscopic effect of the motorized CPU will keep it firmand will as its own fan! The Intel 9600 RPM Gyrotron TFB (Titanium Fan Blades) and the budget Intel 5400 RPM Cyclotron CPS (Cheap Plastic Shit)

    BAhahaah!@!@@ I'm a frickin' genius! I'll be a trillionaire and all you slackers will still be reading /. at your JOBS!!~!~~one@@1!~two
  • by SQLz (564901) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @03:50PM (#8873668) Homepage Journal
    Magnet power cars are a threat to national security.
  • by AtariAmarok (451306) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @03:52PM (#8873701)
    Heh, This guy will soon end up in the oil company holding cell with the guy trying to make a porcelain engine that runs on water ...down the hall from the vault containing the Skynet microchips from the future, all those Tesla inventions that the government has been sitting on, alien car motors from Roswell, turbines that run on Orgone energy, and real working cold fusion.

    By the way, the porcelain engine with water? I've got one in my bathroom. It turns on when you flip a metal lever.
  • by idontgno (624372) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @03:53PM (#8873710) Journal
    I'm trying to figure out how strong your cooler mounts will have to be in order to support about a cubic meter of "high-efficency motor." It's hard to judge, but it looks like about 20 or 30 Kg of motor to me.

    It'll need a big case, in any event.

  • by GSPride (763993) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @03:54PM (#8873748) Homepage
    Not for nothing, but if this thing realy uses magnets of any power, it's the last thing I'd want in my computer.
  • by T5 (308759) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @03:55PM (#8873761)
    You! Back to physics class!

    Exactly how did you think that an electric motor functions? The electrons don't line up all nice and pretty and start pushing the armature around and around. Their dizzying speed doesn't induce a partial vacuum that drags the armature around in its wake. No siree, Bob. They're enslaved to make a magnetic field that alternates attraction and repulsion against a set of fixed magnets.

    Magnets! They're everywhere! Argh!
  • by Bronster (13157) <slashdot@brong.net> on Thursday April 15, 2004 @04:01PM (#8873871) Homepage
    16 watts driving a 35 kg load. Thats the equivelent of a couple of C cells driving a golfcart around.

    Which is entirely possible - what they don't say is how slow it goes ;)

    What would be impressive is getting that golfcart from 0 to 100 in 6 seconds.
  • Re:But... (Score:2, Funny)

    by hellmarch (721948) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @04:01PM (#8873872)
    ...shoestring potatoes... shoestring shoestrings
  • by tbmaddux (145207) * on Thursday April 15, 2004 @04:02PM (#8873896) Homepage Journal
    ... he is in fact claiming to break conservation of energy.
    Young rady, in this house we obey the raws of thelmodynamics!
  • by aminorex (141494) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @04:03PM (#8873910) Homepage Journal
    Thermodynamic anarchy! It's what's for dinner!
    What will come next, dogs mating with cats?!?!
  • by ncc74656 (45571) * <scott@alfter.us> on Thursday April 15, 2004 @04:04PM (#8873929) Homepage Journal
    Only 20% of the power of a conventional motor? The next glaringly obvious step is to figure out a way to make CPUs out of these motors. Rather than GHz, they would be rated on RPMs. Dell will market them as the "Magnetron".

    <voice style="scott-evil">

    Ripoff! Magnetrons are what make microwaves work! What'll they do next--put a "laser" on the moon and call it the "Alan Parsons Project"?

    </voice>

  • by Henry V .009 (518000) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @04:04PM (#8873933) Journal
    Dear Svartalf,

    I recently invented just such an engine that taps into new unexplained laws of physics. I think that you are just the sort of investor I need to have this project take off. Please send your bank account number.

    Henry

    P.S. There may be some scoffers, but what is to say that I'm wrong? After all you are reading this on the internet. It must be true.
  • by AtariAmarok (451306) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @04:05PM (#8873944)
    What will come next, dogs mating with cats?!?!

    Venkman: "Or you could accept the fact that this city is headed for a disaster of Biblical proportions."
    Mayor: "What do you mean, Biblical?
    Ray: "What he means is Old Testament, Mr. Mayor. Real wrath-of-God type stuff. Fire and brimstone coming down from the sky. Rivers and seas boiling."
    Egon: "Forty years of darkness, earthquakes, volcanoes."
    Winston: "The dead rising from the grave."
    Venkman: "Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria."

  • by AtariAmarok (451306) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @04:10PM (#8874031)
    The Toyota Prius already gets 60mpg in the city. Imagine the gas mileage these cars could get if they used one of these motor

    If I calculated correctly, not a Toyota Prius outfitted with one of these motors would excrete 1.3 litres of gasoline every 20 miles. (it is beyond a matter of getting "great gas mileage": the car would put out more gasoline than it takes in).
  • by Svartalf (2997) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @04:10PM (#8874035) Homepage
    What happens with two magnets repelling each other? Do they eventually wear out? No? If you levitate one on top of the other, the magnets are doing work in the form of a repulsion of the magnet on top (It's tendency will be to fall per gravity's attraction)- they're doing work at a rate sufficient to hold the magnet airborne a given distance.

    Where does the energy come from to levitate the magnets? The magnets? Nope. They'll keep on going until you disturb the order present in the magnets by way of a more intense magnetic field, heating up the material past it's curie point, or giving it a sudden, violent impact. Minato's device is little different from the levitating magnets in what is going on.
  • by the_rajah (749499) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @04:13PM (#8874079) Homepage
    I worked as a patent consultant briefly and in a short time saw a couple of perpetual motion schemes. The most elaborate was proposed by a bank security guard and involved a hydraulic pump and motor combined with an electric motor and generator.

    I explained that energy in a system worked like a bank account (bank guard -remember?) You put energy in and you can take it back out, but you can't get quite as much back out as you put in because there was a service charge in the form of friction. He begrudgingly understood. I complemented him on his nice drawings.

    "In this house we obey the law of thermodymanics" - Homer Simpson
  • Easy. (Score:5, Funny)

    by 2names (531755) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @04:16PM (#8874135)
    You just have to put in a magnetic field damper.

    You can get them at Radio Shack.

    They are on the same shelf as the Flux Capacitors.

  • by flamingweasel (191775) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @04:16PM (#8874149)
    Is everybody here retarded?

    You're new here, aren't you?
  • by Sophrosyne (630428) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @04:20PM (#8874218) Homepage
    ...I just use all those wonderful microwaves floating around from the massive Cell-Phone usage.
    Magnets are so old school.
  • by bigg_nate (769185) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @04:22PM (#8874252)
    My guess is that the extra power comes from potential energy stored in the magnet. As the motor runs, the magnet becomes weaker and weaker, kind of like draining a battery.
  • by Zilfondel2 (662431) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @04:23PM (#8874263)
    Darn japanese inventors take all the credit. Well, I'm dating a japanese woman - and I have my super wind-powered car that is going through the patent office right now! Since I'm nice, I'll give you a sneak preview of it!

    First, there is a mini-windmill that is attached to the hood of your car.

    Then a gear steps the RPM up, which powers a fan in the back of your car to push it!
    I swear, once you get up to 30 mph, you don't need anymore gas! It's all about aerodynamics, I swear!
  • Hey man (Score:1, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 15, 2004 @04:23PM (#8874276)
    My computer works without a "PSU". It's got a motherboard, a power supply, a hard drive, a cpu and some ram and interface connectors. And a case.

    I don't know what you're doing with a huge magnetic generator, but I suggest you run fcsk.
  • by Stile 65 (722451) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @04:25PM (#8874312) Homepage Journal
    Actually, assuming this is for real, we now have a source of free energy.

    With an input of 540 watts and an output of ~1.57 KW (when hooking the motor to a generator) all you need to do is split the output of the generator between the motor and some other load, and your generator is now powering the motor that drives it and up to ~1KW load. That's 1KW of free energy!

    I think it has a very high likelihood of being BS, but if it's not, then hell... I can't wait to see it! Live-off-the-grid time for me!
  • by trentblase (717954) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @04:25PM (#8874320)
    Hard drive volumes have increased amazingly

    Yuk yuk, very apropos double entendre.

  • by DumbSwede (521261) <slashdotbin@hotmail.com> on Thursday April 15, 2004 @04:28PM (#8874367) Journal
    SCAM!

    This sentence pretty much tells you this is another perpetual motion hoax:
    With the help of magnetic propulsion, it is feasible to attach a generator to the motor and produce more electric power than was put into the device. Minato says that average efficiency on his motors is about 330 percent.
    Wooo-Hooo we can replace coal, oil and nuclear by just string these things together like Christmas tree bulbs!

    The other clue that this is a scam is the entourage of bankers and investors to the demos, not physicists and engineers.
    Joining us are a middle-aged banker and his entourage from Osaka and accounting and finance consultant Yukio Funai. The banker is doing a quick review for an investment, while the rest of us just want to see if Minato's magnetic motors really work. A prototype car air conditioner cooler sitting on a bench looks like it would fit into a Toyota Corolla and quickly catches our attention

  • by Chewie (24912) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @04:29PM (#8874369)
    There are thousands of people sprinkled over the web who claim to do things with magnets that violate the laws of themodynamics; this guy is just one more.

    What? Name one. Oh, wait. [alexchiu.com]

    Nevermind. :)
  • by paganizer (566360) <.moc.liamtoh. .ta. .1evorgeht.> on Thursday April 15, 2004 @04:29PM (#8874380) Homepage Journal
    Not the type of "PC" we're talking about.
  • by MasTRE (588396) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @04:31PM (#8874401)
    > I think it has a very high likelihood of being BS, but if it's not, then hell...

    Well, it does come from japan.com. I wonder when it will make it to us.com, and if europe.com has any interest in it.

    BTB, it's Slashdotted ATM so I can't even read it.
  • by lcsjk (143581) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @04:34PM (#8874453)
    You can get out more than you put in. Maybe this new motor works like a savings account. (Yeah, I know, the "extra" comes from somewhere else!)
  • By the way, the porcelain engine with water? I've got one in my bathroom. It turns on when you flip a metal lever.

    You're full of shit. Wait, sorry, no, your 'motor' is... time to flush the engine, I guess? ;)
  • Lisa (Score:1, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 15, 2004 @04:44PM (#8874618)
    In this house we obey the laws of thermodynamics. ;-)
  • by raygundan (16760) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @04:45PM (#8874625) Homepage
    You're mistaken. Most of the Space Pixie Smoke is actually inside capacitors. You typically only get to see it released when the electrolyte is crap, or when you wire things up wrong.

    Computer chips contain very little space pixie smoke, and must be heated to staggering temperatures to get it released. I did, however manage to make a UV-erasable PROM glow (UV erasable chips have a little window in the top so you can see the actual chip through the case, and thus expose it to UV) once by accidentally connecting the power supply to one of the data pins. Just like a little lightbulb, all those tiny circuits worked nicely as a filament.
  • by Mateito (746185) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @04:54PM (#8874731) Homepage
    > What's to say it isn't powered by giant invisible lamas?

    Llamas as in the South American camel?

    I've been in South America for 5 years, and if there are any invisible llamas here, I certainly haven't seen them.

  • by cardshark2001 (444650) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @04:55PM (#8874737)
    I could make the argument that you too are a huckster, since you repute them with no clear evidence of their logical phallacy.[emphasis mine]

    Erm.... the word you're looking for is fallacy. I suppose your invented hybrid word might mean "mistake with a penis", as in "Bill Clinton commited lots of phallacies".

    But then, you are an AC so maybe it was on porpoise.

  • by pangloss (25315) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @05:04PM (#8874839) Journal
    Now, for the 8th-grade lesson you seem to have missed...

    wow, in my 8th grade science class i learned that the new girl would blush when asked if she liked to give head and that caroline let frank feel her up in assembly. damned if i remember any talk about voltage and current ;)
  • by raygundan (16760) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @05:08PM (#8874895) Homepage
    "and that caroline let frank feel her up in assembly"

    Man, you had to do that in assembly? I would think a compiled language would be easier, but still not as easy as just using your hands and the more traditional analog interface.
  • by p4ul13 (560810) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @05:10PM (#8874912) Homepage
    Marge: I'm worried about the kids, Homey. Lisa's becoming very
    obsessive. This morning I caught her trying to dissect her own
    raincoat.
    Homer: [scoffs] I know. And this perpetual motion machine she made
    today is a joke! It just keeps going faster and faster.
    Marge: And Bart isn't doing very well either. He needs boundaries and
    structure. There's something about flying a kite at night that's
    so unwholesome. [looks out window]
    Bart: [creepy voice] Hello, Mother dear.
    Marge: [closing the curtains] That's it: we have to get them back to
    school.
    Homer: I'm with you, Marge. Lisa! Get in here.
    [Lisa walks in, chuckling nervously]
    In this house, we obey the laws of thermodynamics!
  • by rco3 (198978) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @05:16PM (#8874991) Homepage
    No, no, no. See, you just don't understand. He's using magnets. They have powers that you just don't understand.

    What'll happen is this. You'll have a 9-volt battery that you take with you when you leave for work in the morning. You use this battery to run a little half-watt motor (540 mW, according to the article). Now, clearly this isn't enough to move your car - but wait! This motor drives a generator, which makes 1.755W of output! (from the article). This still isn't enough, but we might be able to work something out...

    The 1.755 W drives a 1.7 W motor. This motor, in turn, drives a generator. This generator can generate 5.525 W of electricity. We'll use this energy to drive a 5.5 W motor. That motor will turn a generator, which thanks to the mysterious power of magnets will generate 17.875 W! Amazing!

    This still isn't enough to move your car very fast - but wait! We're not done! If we use our 17.875 W to drive a 17.5 W motor, it can drive a generator which produces 58.09 W!!! That's a lot of power! It's almost 1/10th of a horsepower! Next, we'll use that electricity to power a fancy 55 W electric motor, which (because the magnets have eternal power forever) can turn a generator producing 178.75 watts! Clean! Cheap! Quiet! With this power, we can operate an electric motor which in turn drives a generator generating an awesome 580 Watts of power! Using this electricity to drive another motor / generator pair, we can generate 1.888 kW of clean, wholesome electric power! It's amazing!

    Now, let's say we've got a 1.8 kW motor in the trunk. This motor drives another generator which produces 5,850 W of power - that's 7.842 HP in your trunk. We'll use the electricity to drive another motor, this time a 7.8 HP motor - notice we're allowing for (I^2)R losses - which in turn drives a generator. This generator puts out a whopping 18.85 KW of power - that's as much as 10 hair dryers! But, rather than dry all 10 of our passengers' hair at once (can't do *our* hair, we're driving!), we'll use that electricity to drive a 25 HP electric motor. This is a big motor, but not as big as it would be if it didn't use the amazing power of magnets! It can drive a generator that makes 61.26 kW of electricity, which let me tell you is quite a bit! This electricity will be used to drive an 82 HP electric motor - as much as a small electric car. But you don't want a SMALL electric car, nosiree Bob! We use that dinky-assed commuter-car motor to drive a honkin' big generator, which pours out a torrent of electrons - almost 200,000 watts worth! Yikes! That's enough electricity to drive a 265 HP motor! Wow!

    But why would we want a pitiful little 265 HP motor in our car? We're carrying 10 passengers, remember? Let's keep going! If we use that 198 kW to drive a motor/generator pair using Minato's incredible magnetic technology, we can generate 644 kW of clean, efficient electricity! That's enough to drive an 863 HP electric motor, which thanks to its use of magnets, can be as small as a gallon paint can - and just as quiet!

    Isn't this incredible? Using a single 9 volt battery - preferably an Energizer or Duracell - and 14 super-quiet, incredibly efficient electric motors along with 13 revolutionary electric generators, we're driving an 863 HP super monster screamin' machine with 10 passengers! We're passing Corvettes and Ferrarris like they're glued to the asphalt, and we don't need any gasoline to do it!

    Tune in next week, as I show you how it takes only 20 motor/generator pairs - using Minato's incredible magnetic technology - to generate 1.21 Jigawatts - twice! You can send TWO DeLoreans "Back to the Future" at the same time, and STILL have enough electricity to run that bangin' DVD player in your sun visor!

    Now, I realize that this all seems a bit hard to believe, but that's just because you don't understand the incredible power of magnets.
  • by p4ul13 (560810) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @05:21PM (#8875047) Homepage
    RAY: Everything was fine with our system until the power grid was shut off by dickless here.
    WALTER PECK They caused an explosion!
    MAYOR: Is this true?
    VENKMAN: Yes, it's true. This man has no dick.
  • by FattMattP (86246) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @05:35PM (#8875205) Homepage
    Great. Two US patents. Now I know that it's a sham!
  • by kutuz_off (159540) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @05:40PM (#8875263)
    The powers being harnessed are those of gullibility, ignorance and greed.
  • by dillon_rinker (17944) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @06:15PM (#8875612) Homepage
    Yes, they will. All you have to do is to provide a working model.
  • by MCRocker (461060) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @06:29PM (#8875779) Homepage
    You are very smart and have clearly figured out that this is a real product based on real science and not any sort of ruse to take over America by providing motors to industry that will fail after a few months of use. You must have a very large American penis!

    You Americans with your large penises are very superior and will undoutedly jump on this huge opportunity to continue your dominance of world industry. To hear more about how you're extreme prowess will prevail, listen to the following messages:

  • by Tackhead (54550) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @06:29PM (#8875785)
    > > As opposed to what?
    >
    > Electrostatic motors?

    Electroweak motors? (OK, not terribly efficient, but plenty of fast-moving parts.)

  • Prfft... (Score:5, Funny)

    by adamofgreyskull (640712) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @06:52PM (#8876018)
    A U.S. Patent? Shit, I got one of those in my cornflakes this morning. :o)
  • by kfg (145172) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @06:52PM (#8876022)
    Now, I realize that this all seems a bit hard to believe, but that's just because you don't understand the incredible power of magnets.

    Have I mentioned before that the "free energy from magnets" people drive me frickin' nuts?

    Why yes, I believe I have. Several times in fact. And the only thing harder than trying to explain to these people why it doesn't work is trying to explain it to someone who's invested their life savings in the scheme.

    Hey, why didn't someone ever think of putting magnets in an electric motor before?

    Then all you'd have to do is figure out some way to switch the coils in sync with the rotation and you'd revolutionize the world!

    Muuuuahahahahaha!

    KFG
  • by Oriumpor (446718) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @07:02PM (#8876110) Homepage Journal
    wow... from the site

    I have been quite alone in both financial and hands on help with this engine project. I do not accept the 25 or even 35 percent efficiency of today's engines when we have the technology to do better. From 1974, the year of my first patent on this engine, the efficiency of engines has not changed very much. It looks like we will continue to waste, pollute, and fight over the growing oil problem. I add these bits and pieces to answer questions I have been asked. How do I know this or that about my engine when I cannot see inside to know at that instant what is really going on. The great God of Abraham, through Jesus Christ, by way of the Holy Spirit has poured out his Spirit on me concerning this engine and how it is to be handled. This is something I do not take lightly and I will do as God has instructed me.
    ... well er uhh... at least he's dedicated...
  • by PCM2 (4486) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @07:10PM (#8876187) Homepage
    Why the fuck is this crackpot on slashdot?
    You're saying his claims are too easily refuted, is that it? He doesn't make the grade?
  • Re:Prfft... (Score:3, Funny)

    by Afrosheen (42464) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @07:38PM (#8876439)
    Was it a Microsoft patent for Method of Eating a Bowl of Cereal?

    I owe those fuckers over 2 million USD for infringement already.
  • by Dun Malg (230075) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @07:38PM (#8876440) Homepage
    with a mass m = 2e30 kg, we have a rest-mass energy E = m c^2 of 1.8e47 J. If we want to borrow this much energy from the vacumm, the uncertainty principle indicates that we have to give it back after a time t = h/(4 pi E), where h = 6.64e-34 J s is Planck's constant. Solving for t, we find that we can borrow a solar system's worth of energy for t = 4.42e-83 s. This is around forty orders of magnitude shorter than the Planck time, the shortest timescale of the universe.

    Now that's what I call a whack with the physics clue-stick. You know, the plan would've worked if Planck wasn't so lazy. When I was Planck's age, I could saw and split six cords of wood, milk fifty cows, and plow 100 acres behind a single lame ox in 10^-43 seconds. Now here's this Planck fellow, claims he cain't git nothin' done-- not ONE SINGLE THING-- in less than that. Lazy, I tell ya'.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 15, 2004 @07:54PM (#8876559)
    You use magnetic fans in your computer?! Pah... I only use pure, clean Hamstertron technology to power my fans!
  • by rcw-home (122017) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @08:13PM (#8876695)
    Please: find for me the mathematical proof that airplanes can actually fly.

    You'll need a piece of letter or A4-sized paper and a sharp new #2 pencil to complete this proof.

    Take the paper, and fold it in half lengthwise, then unfold. Turn the paper upside down so that the crease is pointing up. Rotate the paper so that a short side is closest to you (perpendicular to your eyesight). Take each of the corners furthest from you and fold them back to the crease at a 45-degree angle, leaving a point at the end of the crease. Fold the previously folded area towards you. Take each of the corners furthest from you and fold them to the crease, one centimeter shy of the point. Fold the point away from you. Turn the paper upside down. Fold it in half along the original crease. Orient the paper so that the original crease is towards you. Fold towards you on an imaginary line connecting the corner on the folded side that is furthest away from you with a point approximately three centimeters away from the original crease on the unfolded side. Flip upside down and repeat. Pick up the paper and relax the last two folds to a 90-degree angle.

    Throw gently.

    Eat the pencil.

    Oh, you wanted a mathematical proof? You should have presented a mathematical assumption.

  • by Geoffreyerffoeg (729040) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @08:38PM (#8876871)
    Maybe I shouldn't give them the idea for dogandcat.cx ....
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 15, 2004 @09:32PM (#8877186)

    On top of the energy savings the motor runs cool to the touch and is significantly quieter

    This seems like the only disadvantage, but I'm quite sure that it could be eventually made sound like a 10 liter V8 to be accepted here in the US, even despite the energy savings. This is great news.

  • by gl4ss (559668) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @10:23PM (#8877510) Homepage Journal
    How stupid of you. You forget the battery charger for the 9v battery(and better use a rechargeable one), without that the landfills will soon be full of 9v batteries! THINK OF THE ECOSYSTEM!

  • by klang (27062) on Friday April 16, 2004 @03:24AM (#8878837)
    In this house we obey the laws of thermodynamics!
  • by Rsriram (51832) on Friday April 16, 2004 @03:31AM (#8878861)
    This guy claims the motor actually outputs more power than it consumes with an efficiency of 330% and what is the author excited about? Quiter PC fans. Yeah!

    This reminds of the castaway who met the girl on the island and when she offered him anything he wanted, said "do you have an internet connection?"

    Inventor: I have invented an Over Unity device
    Author: Does it mean my PC will have a quieter fan?
  • by ball-lightning (594495) <spi131313@yahoo.com> on Friday April 16, 2004 @09:29AM (#8880141)
    So...how much heat does a golf ball make, exactly?

    African, or European?
  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 18, 2004 @03:10AM (#8895946)
    like this [f9.co.uk]?

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