Element 110 Now Darmstadtium 202
photoblur writes "It's time to update your periodic table of the elements! Element 110 has been officially named 'darmstadtium' (Ds), after the GSI lab in Darmstadt, Germany. The GSI lab has also been officially recognized for discovering element 111."
Name of Element 111 (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Name of Element 111 (Score:4, Funny)
I mean seriously, how many samples of 111 exist in non lab enviroments? For how long?
I am confused by the purpose behind this research...seems like one of those "because we can" things.
Re:Name of Element 111 (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Name of Element 111 (Score:2)
"island of stability" (Score:2)
Re:"island of stability" (Score:2)
And the halflives of the heavier elements have been trending upwards as predicted - some have half-lives i
Re:Name of Element 111 (Score:2)
Yes, it had been discovered. It took months of measurements, and in the end they claimed to have three magnetic tapes, each of which held exactly one such discovery.
However, when others asked to see the data, they appeared to have been erased, because the tapes were accidentily left on an accellerator magnet.
I don't think anybody believed this story, and now scientists commonly agree on it that it was not discovered.
Re:Metalloid noble gas? WTF? (Score:1)
Pronunciation: 'me-t&l-"oid
Function: noun
Date: 1832
1 : a nonmetal that can combine with a metal to form an alloy
2 : an element intermediate in properties between the typical metals and nonmetals
Main Entry: noble gas
Function: noun
Date: 1902
: any of a group of rare gases that include helium, neon, argon, krypton, xenon, and sometimes radon and that exhibit great stability and extremely low reaction rates -- called also inert gas
Element 118's position on the periodic table places it
Re:Metalloid noble gas? WTF? (Score:2)
Re:Name of Element 111 (Score:2, Interesting)
"Nobodybutfiziksgeekscareanymoreium"
Seriously though, it is important in our understanding of both heavy nuclei physics and stellar astrophysics. That knowledge will not have an immediate benifit that most people can see. Eventaully that understanding will lead to some helpful devices and ideas that most people will go "ah-hah!" about. But inbetween breakthroughs we are inching along to set ourselves up for the next a-hah! moment.
As an example Americium (element 95--artifcially produced) is use
Re:Name of Element 111 (Score:2)
Hey - most stable elements have a use of some sort. And if you find some superheavy element with a 100 year half-life, I'm sure there will be a use for it - it could be manufactured on a macroscopic scale for sure. If nothing else it lets you study the physics of large concentrated masses in small spaces (relativity has a big effect o
Re:Name of Element 111 (Score:2)
How about "Nameinthesnowium"? Same category.
Re:Name of Element 111 (Score:2)
none, the same number that exist in lab environments... do you have any idea what sort of half-life these elements have?
It's fundamental research. Seeing what is possible and learning about the basic laws of the universe... There might be some application in the distant future, but i doubt it would be very directly related to this reasearch...
Re:Name of Element 111 (Score:2)
Re:Name of Element 111 (Score:2)
First answer - 0. Second answer - VERY little time. Maybe a hundred milliseconds or so.
But, half-lives are trending upward as we approach the predicted island of stability.
See this very informative link [acs.org] from Chemical and Engineering News's 50th aniversary edition. (It of course annouced the naming of 110 a few weeks ago - it isn't breaking news.) In it they have a table which shows some of the heavier isotopes of t
Re:Name of Element 111 (Score:2)
The first wheel was probably used for pottery. The person using it must have been an uber-geek. Making pots isn't much more efficient with a wheel, they only look a bit nicer (to us, I'm not even sure if the people back then thought so.
If someone would have asked the purpose of his or her invention, the answer certainly wouldn't be that in the future people could make clocks with it.
Some research is
Re:Name of Element 111 (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Name of Element 111 (Score:1)
And will RMS insist that this new element is GNU/darmstadtium?
HH (in a weird mood, waiting for g/f to arrive)
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no no no (Score:2, Funny)
but imagine if those physics guys were slashdotters: we'd have
goatsexium
hotgritsium
firstpostium
beowulfi
and of course:
cowboynealium
ed
Re:no no no (Score:2, Funny)
Chris Benard [talkingtoad.com]
I propose 111 be known as Firstpostium! (Score:1)
Re:Name of Element 111 (Score:2)
How about Pentium?
Prototype Element with No real use.
Oh wait........
Re:Name of Element 111 (Score:2)
Wondeful... (Score:5, Funny)
Darn scientists (Score:1)
Re:Darn scientists (Score:2)
population: tire (Score:3, Funny)
I'm just waiting... (Score:3, Funny)
Re:I'm just waiting... (Score:1)
Re:I'm just waiting... (Score:2)
Hey, that gives me an idea for a
Favorite fictional element?
1. Adamantium
2. Omnium
3. Unobtanium
4. Upsidaisium
5. (help me out... what was the stuff called in 'Raise the Titanic' by Clive Cussler?)
6. The Fifth Element
7. Cowboynealium
Re:I'm just waiting... (Score:2)
You forgot Administratium.
IIRC, although this has yet to be observed directly, its affinity for bureaucracies has been amply demonstrated many times, since its presence causes vast amounts of inertia that otherwise cannot be explained.
If you put two or three bureaucrats together, then nothing gets done, no matter how much energy you flow into the system. All because of the trace amounts of administratium that are naturally occuring in each bureaucrat.
Re:I'm just waiting... (Score:2)
Off-by-1 error?
Re:I'm just waiting... (Score:2)
Mithril? (Score:2)
Re:I'm just waiting... (Score:2)
Don't forget about upsidaisium [bcdb.com]...
Re:I'm just waiting... (Score:2)
Re:I'm just waiting... (Score:2)
Re:I'm just waiting... (Score:2)
I read a biography of this guy named Logan who had all kinds of things to say about it...
Element: Slashdotium found (Score:4, Funny)
The 5th Element (Score:1)
The GSI response to the announcement.... (Score:1)
"Damn straightium it's Darmstadtium!"
Re:The GSI response to the announcement.... (Score:1)
By a stunning coincidence... (Score:2)
Thank you. Try the veal.
Name for elem. 111 (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Name for elem. 111 (Score:1)
Other name (Score:2)
Re:Other name (Score:2)
eleventyoneium
bilbonium.
Re:Name for elem. 111 (Score:2)
Re:Name for elem. 111 (Score:2)
Re:Name for elem. 111 (Score:2)
My Idea for a name. (Score:1, Funny)
Re:My Idea for a name. (Score:2)
> table. decays so rapidly you never see it.
Ugh. Don't remind me of "The Core". The joke was funny when the guy first said it, but it got old REAL fast. Besides, would someone like to explain to me how this magical Unobtainium withstands the pressures inherent in the Earth's core, but happily goes to pieces when a nuke blows up inside? The concept of a containment field would have worked WAY better than their In-consistant-ium, IMNHO.
Re:My Idea for a name. (Score:2)
Unobtainium [suppliersonline.com].
The official suppliers website [unobtainium.com]
and according to Sen. Jeff Bingaman, both Bowman and Doggit [senate.gov] have some of it, and the U.S. is none too pleased.
Webelements (Score:3, Informative)
So.....for all your printable periodic table needs, go to Web Elements!!
Re:Webelements (Score:2)
Just Wondering (Score:2)
Re:Just Wondering (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:WTF? (Score:2)
Imagine an atomic nucleus as a bunch of magnets, all repulsing each other (protons). But, they have elastic bands holding them together (nuclear force).
The more magnets you add, the more force is exterted on the elastic bands, which makes them stretch and eventually break.
So, you can keep making bigger and bigger atoms by forcing more protons together, but it gets to the point where they tear themselves apart pretty much instantly from the repuls
Re:WTF? (Score:2)
Whatever happened to the "Pros," the "New Guys," and the "Elected Ones"?
Re:Just Wondering (Score:1)
Oh, please... (Score:1)
That grandiose generalization based upon examination of, what, 0.0000000000000000000000001% of the available samples?!!!
Now, if you cited something with some theoretical underpinnings as your justification, instead of such paltry empirical data, I might possibly consider maybe that I might believe you.
Repost (Score:1)
August 15th to be precise.
Posted by simoniker on Friday August 15, @03:38AM
from the soda-company-to-sponsor-pepsium dept.
An anonymous reader writes "According to Nature Magazine, chemists will vote in Ottawa, Canada this week, and are expected to approve the chemical element 110's informal moniker, 'darmstadtium', and give it the chemical symbol Ds. The title honors the Laboratory for Heavy Ion Research (called GSI) in Darmstadt, Germany, whe
What benefit does this give? (Score:2)
Do new elements like this one have uses in industry, or is it pure research insomuch as the ability for certain elements to exist in nature? Is there a primer for people like me? Is there any theory about which elements -can- exist?
The definitive periodic table ... (Score:2)
And yes, he has Darmstadtium.
Re:The definitive periodic table ... (Score:2)
The definitive periodic table [bbc.co.uk].
DS? (Score:2)
What the hell? Real periodic table here (Score:1)
Curse you Darmstadtium! (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Curse you Darmstadtium! (Score:3, Funny)
Soko
Periodic Table of Science Fiction (Score:2)
About the only one I'd recommend staying away from is arsenic... I've managed to block most of the memories of that story now.... ick.
Element 111 (Score:2)
Re:Element 111 (Score:2)
I count 4+2+1=7
If they call it "Seven" [movieweb.com], then we can really say it's "Heavy as Sin".
DamnStadium ? You mean the Vet ? (Score:2)
I could have sworn that read DamnStadium [usatoday.com].
Which made me think immediately of the Vet (Veterans Stadium [phila.gov] - Philly, PA, USA)
Did anyone else read this as... (Score:2)
sPh
Discovery of 111 (Score:1)
#111 (Score:2)
It just has to be.
No, really, it does.
Re:#111 (Score:2)
Re:#111 (Score:2)
Nicht schlecht fur die Heiner! (Score:2)
misread? (Score:2)
You'd think they'd choose something that'd not look like another word, much less a phrase.
But Is It Useful? (Score:2)
Element 115, Ununpentium, is very useful. Look for yourself:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/element115.ht
Slightly OT... (Score:2)
Re:Slightly OT... (Score:2)
So I did some Googleing. Here [cartage.org.lb] they say "The real reason electrons don't fall into the nucleus is that they are not electrically-charged bodies orbiting the nucleus but are electric charges that come from the nucleus, negative electric charges that have a small mass but are not actually matter. They spread out in various directions from the nucleus, forming the regular patterns that underly the crystal structure of all large-
Re:Slightly OT... (Score:2)
Re:Slightly OT... (Score:2)
I just need to add a disclaimer that after reading more of the content on the link I provided above (to bel.150m.com), I'm not convinced of the reliability of that website. Interesting reading, but doesn't seem authoritative.
That's what I get for linking to something too quickly.
Re:Slightly OT... (Score:2)
Taking a snapshot in time of the atom, I can accept the idea that the kinetic energy equals the electrostitic potential and the electrons orbit. But doesn't entropy imply that this orbit must decay? I'm not sure where the kinetic energy would go, but it seem
Tinfoil Hats and Element 115 (Score:2)
I learned about this by watching an interview on a "Sightings"-like show where someone claimed to have worked at "Area 51" years ago.
His story was that UFO sightings are due to experimental antigravity aircraft that the military is testing out. He claimed that these craft created an antigr
Darn Stadium (Score:2)
What happened to nice, short names? Hydrogen, Xeon, Silver, Darmstadtium - one of these doesn't quite fit. I guess there was no word in old latin for element 110...
Re:Darn Stadium (Score:2)
You're right, and it's Xeon. Intel has been chewing on your brain a bit too much, I guess.
Re:Darn Stadium (Score:2)
I thought it looked wrong when I first typed it...
heh, coincidence (Score:2)
It currently lists element 110 as Ununnilium.
Some additional suggestions: (Score:2)
goatsecxium
allyourbaseium
torvaldsium
alanc
Had to be Said... (Score:2)
ImagineABeowulfClusterOfThesium
Wolverene's skeleton is made of (Score:1)
Re:Are they really elements? (Score:2)
Not quite the case...From this Nature article [nature.com]:
"A 'superheavy' atom of element number 114, created in a research reactor in Russia, has a 'half-life' of 30 seconds
Re:Are they really elements? (Score:1)
Wasn't the element 115 supposed to be the "alien material" used in the anti-gravity drives of the UFOs? What happened to that?
Re:what's next in line for 111? (Score:2)
Yttrium
Ytterbium
Terbium
Erbium
Jolyon
Re:Element of uncertainty. (Score:2)
Re:I swear... (Score:2)
Latin is an ideal language, because it's universally dead. Laugh if you will, but picking english names or russian or french or yiddish, is obnoxious to the segment of the world that doesn't speak the language.
Perhaps if you can't deal with names like this (or the transition metals--rhodium, iridium, etc.) you really did deserve that c.
Re:*ium (Score:2)