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14 Years Later, Cold Fusion Still Gets The Cold Shoulder 561

segment writes "It has been 14 years since two little-known electrochemists announced what sounded like the biggest physics breakthrough since Enrico Fermi produced a nuclear chain reaction on a squash court in Chicago. Using a tabletop setup, Stanley Pons and Martin Fleischmann, of the University of Utah, said they had induced deuterium nuclei to fuse inside metal electrodes, producing measurable quantities of heat. That was the opening bell for one of the craziest periods in science. Cold fusion, if real, promised to solve the world's energy problems forever. Scientists around the world dropped what they were doing to try to replicate the astounding claim." The linked AP story (carried on SFGate.com) is about the Tenth International Conference on Cold Fusion, which took place in the last week of August.
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14 Years Later, Cold Fusion Still Gets The Cold Shoulder

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  • If real? (Score:4, Funny)

    by thinkninja ( 606538 ) on Sunday September 07, 2003 @05:19PM (#6895178) Homepage Journal
    What do you think powers my flying car?
  • by sonicattack ( 554038 ) on Sunday September 07, 2003 @05:26PM (#6895224) Homepage
    This is from the good ole' fortune file. It really has an answer to everything!

    - "Yo, Mike!"
    - "Yeah, Gabe?"
    - "We got a problem down on Earth. In Utah."
    - "I thought you fixed that last century!"
    - "No, no, not that. Someone's found a security problem in the physics program. They're getting energy out of nowhere."
    - "Blessit! Lemme look... Hey, it's there all right! OK, just a sec... There, that ought to patch it. Dist it out, wouldja?"

    -- Cold Fusion, 1989
  • by Anonymous Brave Guy ( 457657 ) on Sunday September 07, 2003 @05:26PM (#6895226)

    But the scientist concerned wore a real lab coat, so it must work...

  • Re:If real? (Score:2, Funny)

    by DA-MAN ( 17442 ) on Sunday September 07, 2003 @05:28PM (#6895231) Homepage
    If it's anything like my flying car, probably good ol Mr. Fusion
  • by nacturation ( 646836 ) <nacturation&gmail,com> on Sunday September 07, 2003 @05:28PM (#6895232) Journal
    Scientists for the International Society of Alchemy held their 284th annual conference next door to the cold fusion conference. Still under debate is: did Gaythorpe the Great really turn lead into gold?
  • by Alomex ( 148003 ) on Sunday September 07, 2003 @05:29PM (#6895235) Homepage
    My neighbor had a cold fusion plant working like a charm, but he hasn't done much with it since the time he decided to connect to the electricity grid and give all his fellow Ohians free juice.
  • by ryen ( 684684 ) on Sunday September 07, 2003 @05:30PM (#6895250)
    by grabbing the www.iccf11.org domain before the 11th conference ;)
  • by Joe U ( 443617 ) * on Sunday September 07, 2003 @05:32PM (#6895259) Homepage Journal
    No, the title for that article is:

    "6 versions later and ColdFusion still gets the cold shoulder (And crashes now and then for some reason)"

  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 07, 2003 @05:32PM (#6895261)
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  • Re:If real? (Score:5, Funny)

    by Jason1729 ( 561790 ) on Sunday September 07, 2003 @05:33PM (#6895268)
    Imagination
  • by mlush ( 620447 ) on Sunday September 07, 2003 @05:39PM (#6895304)
    Just a Fleisch in the Pons
  • by digitalhermit ( 113459 ) on Sunday September 07, 2003 @05:41PM (#6895318) Homepage
    Using the techniques published in the paper, I've been developing a method a quantum communication over great distances. The possibilities of these innovations to the original deuterium breakdown system are staggering; among these breakthroughs are advances in communication.

    We all know the typical objection to unlimited data compression. One needs only to Google for "counting argument" to realize that further compression of essentially random (e.g., binary) data is impossible. Searches for better compression algorithms at best have minimal returns (1-2% reductions are considered remarkable) or at worst ineffective or outright hoaxes.

    My new technology builds upon quantum duality -- influence at a distance. From first year quantum physics we know that observation of a particle can fix its state. Should a particle and anti-particle be released, we can *at a distance* fix the identity of the opposite particle merely by observation. What does this mean? Well, for one, by sending a stream of anti-particles to a remote observer then observing its opposite, we can then fix the identity of the remote particles *no matter how much distance*. This means we can instantaneously send as a stream of quantum particles. Schroedinger's and Heisenbergs body of work more than amply addresses the mechanics of this remote communication so I won't bore you with the technical details here.

    How does my method overcome the inherent randomness of quantum identity? It doesn't. I rely upon a remote lookup table. The receiver will only need to be sent a key of several bits. The remote receiver can then index the key to a table of longer values. For example, a key code of 001 would correspond to a larger sequence such as 00100111. By performing a lookup on this table the receiver can then expand the key to arbitrarily large bit sequences. How are the keys transferred? Our new technology -- Extended Schroedinger Particle (ESP) -- bases itself upon the aforementioned work by Mr. Schroedinger. Of course, trade secrets and corporate lawyers prevent me from revealing the exact method.

    Anyhow, please send me money so that I can continue my research. It has the potential to obviate and obsolete all current telecommunications networks.

    KLL
  • Re:If real? (Score:5, Funny)

    by falzer ( 224563 ) on Sunday September 07, 2003 @05:43PM (#6895328)
    > What do you think powers my flying car?

    Your own sense of self-satisfaction?
  • by forgotmypassword ( 602349 ) on Sunday September 07, 2003 @05:46PM (#6895349)
    we will use it to boil water

    (you have to know how a nukular power plant works to get this joke)
  • by Black Parrot ( 19622 ) on Sunday September 07, 2003 @05:52PM (#6895388)


    What the heck kind of shoulder did you expect cold fusion to get?

  • by Otter ( 3800 ) on Sunday September 07, 2003 @05:59PM (#6895427) Journal
    It has been 14 years since two little-known electrochemists announced what sounded like the biggest physics breakthrough since Enrico Fermi produced a nuclear chain reaction on a squash court in Chicago.

    Coincidentally, it's been 14 years since my Introductory Physics professor blew off pretty much the entire second semester to try to replicate the Pons & Fleischman findings. It worked out well -- he got a cover article in Nature and I got an A+ after he reused all the previous years' exams verbatim.

    (You'd think everyone else would have gotten old exams from their friends, but I, though hardly an Alpha Beta, was apparently one of the few students who _had_ friends. For that matter, I could never understand how people could be given a word problem with the force and mass, told to find the acceleration, and given the relevant equations, couldn't locate f=ma and plug the values in.)

    The same guy, when he talked about the Tacoma Narrows Bridge collapse pronounced it "Tacomanaros". It was years before I learned that it wasn't in Uruguay or Bolivia...

  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 07, 2003 @06:00PM (#6895432)
    Maybe you shouldn't rely on your history teacher for anecdotal scientific stories about lasers...
  • by MADCOWbeserk ( 515545 ) on Sunday September 07, 2003 @06:26PM (#6895555)
    SCO has announced they sueing Stanley Pons and Martin Fleischmann.. "SCO owns all rights to bullshit from the state of UTAH. Cold fusion therefore meets our criteria for deritive works." Chris Sontag, VP of SCO..
  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 07, 2003 @06:32PM (#6895595)
    So the Pope calls an emergency teleconference of all of the cardinals from around the world. He says, "Well, gentlemen, I have some good news and bad news. The good news is that Jesus Christ has returned! I just spoke to him on the telephone."

    Amidst the cheers and hurrahs, one of the cardinals asked, "Father, this is of course a joyous day. But do tell---what could the bad news possibly be?"

    "He was calling from Salt Lake City."
  • by Bearpaw ( 13080 ) on Sunday September 07, 2003 @06:43PM (#6895677)
    It would be a lot simpler to rate an idea by how it's formatted. You, know, like if it's presented all in one big paragraph.
  • by void warranty() ( 232725 ) on Sunday September 07, 2003 @06:53PM (#6895735)
    So, when are they going to patch the platypus? That thing's been since about launch.

    God blessed lazy devs!
  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 07, 2003 @06:57PM (#6895757)
    I wonder how many of these researchers also have diagrams for perpetual motion machines...
  • by Hentai ( 165906 ) on Sunday September 07, 2003 @08:04PM (#6896039) Homepage Journal
    Some bugs are just too hilariously funny to patch. All the better when they're more-or-less benign.

    Actually, to be honest, we DID patch it, about 60 million years ago, but our lead felt it was so hilarious, he put it back in as an easter-egg in the evolution module's garbage collection heap, where he figured noone would see it.

    We had to cancel memory deallocation when people showed up and started LIVING there, before the memory corruption spread too far. We managed to stabilize the region, of course, but not before they started thinking "G'day mate" was a proper way to talk.
  • by TheVidiot ( 549995 ) on Sunday September 07, 2003 @08:52PM (#6896310) Homepage
    Who controls the British crown?
    Who keeps the metric system down?
    We do! We do!
    Whow leaves Atlantis off the maps?
    Whot keeps the Martians under wraps?
    We do! We do!
    Who holds back the electric car?
    Who makes Steve Guttenberg a star?
    We do! We do!
    Who robs the cave fish of their sight?
    Who rigs every Oscar night?
    We do! We do!
  • Duke (Score:5, Funny)

    by zurmikopa ( 460568 ) on Sunday September 07, 2003 @08:54PM (#6896326) Homepage
    Why do I get the feeling that this fusion project has the codename "Duke Nukem Forever"
  • by sjames ( 1099 ) on Sunday September 07, 2003 @08:59PM (#6896355) Homepage Journal

    Obviously some crackpot mixing chemicals in his crucible isn't going to achieve the same

    Oddly enough, if he mixes the right sort of earth with quicksilver and then applies fire 'to drive away the excess water', he will in fact find gold has been left behind. Of course he'll also get a terrible case of mercury poisoning.

  • by mshiltonj ( 220311 ) <mshiltonj@gm a i l .com> on Sunday September 07, 2003 @09:24PM (#6896497) Homepage Journal
    Nobody uses Cold Fusion anymore, now that Macromedia bought it. Everyone has switched to PHP.
  • by The-Bus ( 138060 ) on Sunday September 07, 2003 @10:00PM (#6896680)
    Yet, it was a phenomenon worthy enough of a Keanu Reeves movie.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 07, 2003 @10:27PM (#6896795)
    > "If it sounds too good to be true, it probably isn't."

    It probably isn't true, or it probably isn't too good to be true?
  • by Laplace ( 143876 ) on Sunday September 07, 2003 @11:57PM (#6897235)
    The organizers always schedule it to be coincident with the annual Perpetual Motion Machine conference.
  • by sa-thigpen ( 635566 ) on Sunday September 07, 2003 @11:59PM (#6897250)
    There has been some talk in Cold Fusion circles (www.infinite-energy.com) about changing the name from Cold Fusion to something with less negative connotations. I think Crystal Power is an apt title. Some of these experimental cells (http://www.lenr-canr.org/Experiments.htm) look almost good to go! I'm hoping to one day use these power cells in a lab of my own.
  • by donutz ( 195717 ) on Monday September 08, 2003 @12:07AM (#6897276) Homepage Journal
    Scientist sees a wee spark in a test tube and starts ranting about free energy etc.

    From what I hear, George W Bush strongly advocates further research into free energy and antigravity [byzantinec...ations.com].
  • by billstewart ( 78916 ) on Monday September 08, 2003 @03:46AM (#6897944) Journal
    I was working at Bell Labs back when the Cold Fusion hype happened, though not in one of the chemistry departments. About two days after the initial announcement hit the press, there was an Official Pronouncement that nobody was allowed to withdraw palladium from the company stockroom without their director's approval... A bit later, a researcher at some university was killed in a hydrogen explosion, and any cold fusion research inside the Labs became much more strictly controlled as a response to it - messing with electrolysis is too easy a way to get into chemical accidents.

    One of my jobs was sysadmin for a departmental computer lab that was in a big glass-fishbowl room (remember when computers were big?) I was heading off for a week to see a customer on another project, but I took a few minutes to print out a line-printer banner about "Cold Fusion Research Laboratory" and cobble together some random parts and wires and 5-gallon jars of liquid and set them up in the window before I left. They were gone by the time I got back :-)

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