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Holographic Keypads Float Into View 291

prostoalex writes "The New York Times tells the story of a Connecticut-based company called HoloTouch that is developing input devices that literally "float in the air". The technology will be licensed for information kiosks in New York city. Some other sample applications are available from the company's Web site. HoloTouch already managed to secure the patent on its technology."
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Holographic Keypads Float Into View

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  • by Thinkit3 ( 671998 ) * on Monday August 04, 2003 @04:06PM (#6608999)
    What about hexadecimal and dvorak (or other more efficient layouts)? Let's transition there first.
  • by frovingslosh ( 582462 ) on Monday August 04, 2003 @04:08PM (#6609015)
    already managed to secure the patent

    But have they really been able to build one, or are they just patenting the idea with hopes someone else will and they they can sue and get rich? I see nothing on their website (other than very obviously mocked up fake pictures) or in the patent that says they really know how to do this.

  • Re:Is that legit? (Score:4, Interesting)

    by clary ( 141424 ) on Monday August 04, 2003 @04:17PM (#6609118)
    I thought part of the patent law process was that you had to have a working model, in order to be awarded a patent?
    According to Scientific American [sciam.com], the requirement for a working model was rescinded in 1800, except for perpetual motion machines. ;-)
  • Wait a second (Score:2, Interesting)

    by zejackal ( 186296 ) on Monday August 04, 2003 @04:18PM (#6609140)
    Not much detail on the company's website. I'm interested in how they construct the image. If it is truely holographic, then it will require a medium for the image to be projected on. After all, a hologram is just an interference pattern. That is unless of course they plan on projecting directly onto the retina which I find hard to believe. So the image won't float in the air above the body of the person being operated on, it will float in front of some display case. It won't be visible from all angles either. They don't call it a free floating volumetric display, so it must be projected. It sounds cool, but not as cool as it's made out.
  • problems (Score:3, Interesting)

    by www.sorehands.com ( 142825 ) on Monday August 04, 2003 @04:24PM (#6609205) Homepage
    With a holgraphic keyboard, you get the ability to customize on the fly, so you can adjust the keyboard position and size for the person.

    But...... it can't be used as a long term replacement for a keyboard. A regular keyboard provides lift to the fingers when releasing the keys, thus reducing the work on the fingers. This cuts down on RSIs.

  • hazard? (Score:1, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 04, 2003 @04:32PM (#6609275)
    Hey, you wont short your kbd when spilling your coffee...

    I could see a pilot accidently put his hand through the controls and eject himself.

    Even if it does work it would probably be more of an inconvenience/hazard than a help.
  • Re:Is that legit? (Score:3, Interesting)

    by frovingslosh ( 582462 ) on Monday August 04, 2003 @04:42PM (#6609359)
    How does that work then? Could I go out and patent something, like say, "Faster-than-light spaceship drive" and sit back and wait for someone to develop it, and then get rich?

    Even worse, someone can wait until the faster than light spaceship is invented, then use it to travel back in time and then patent it!

    No, the patent office does not require working models any longer (not for quite some time). But I think that it could still be a good legal argument when defending against a patent that the patent holder did not really invent anything and that they just tried squatting on an idea (one that is hardly theirs), gave the public nothing of any value for the patent, and so are not entitled to patent protection when an unimplimented bit of sciece fantasy gets patented. I sure hope so, because unless these guys reallu have built The hologram projector 200 I would hate to see them profit on this any more than just bilking investors.

  • Re:look before leap (Score:4, Interesting)

    by merlin_jim ( 302773 ) <{James.McCracken} {at} {stratapult.com}> on Monday August 04, 2003 @04:44PM (#6609377)
    You can't see a hologram with only one eye

    Poppy cock. Of course you can see a hologram with only one eye!

    You just can't see a stereoscopic vision allowing you to definitely position the object in three dimensional space. But the eyes use other cues than stereoscopic vision to determine position, cues like parallax and brightness, as well as ocular focus.
  • by saddino ( 183491 ) on Monday August 04, 2003 @04:48PM (#6609404)
    tell me how The holographic image generator 200 actually manages to display a real time changing holographic image

    Good question, but that's not the issue. People seem to be believe this company has invented a new type of holographic technology -- they haven't. What they've done is invented a method to accept tactile-less input from a hologram, regardless of the holographic techonology. That's why the images are fakes.

    What this company needs now is a partner who has some good holographic technology in the works.
  • by MickLinux ( 579158 ) on Monday August 04, 2003 @04:48PM (#6609408) Journal
    Okay, just assuming that this is a case in which they haven't invented anything, and it is actually a good idea [neither of which I feel able to judge], here is a workaround, NOW PUBLIC DOMAIN!

    Instead of making holographic keypads, make use of the double-parabolic-mirror optical illusion. You know the kind, shown in Edmund Scientific, where there are floating coins in the air. That is clearly not a hologram, but it would work just as well.

    If you feel at all inclined to make something, bookmark this reply!

    - MickLinux
  • by asmithmd1 ( 239950 ) on Monday August 04, 2003 @04:49PM (#6609422) Homepage Journal
    Here is a summary [alpern.org] of some people who have a real live working invention, not something they just thought up that might be possible one day
  • by blamanj ( 253811 ) on Monday August 04, 2003 @04:49PM (#6609424)
    It replaces physical keyboards where they can't exist, also. Here's another company that does projection keyboards. [canesta.com]

    They've also done testing on usability. Touch typists can adapt and achieve about 60% of their electro-mechanical keyboard speeds.
  • Killer App for PDA's (Score:4, Interesting)

    by jafac ( 1449 ) on Monday August 04, 2003 @05:12PM (#6609623) Homepage
    Right now, the main limiting factor in PDA adoption (IMHO) is size. They're too darned big, they don't fit nicely into my pocket. Perhaps something the size of a credit card would be well protected in my wallet - but then the screen and input devices are too small -

    Hence - this device would be the savior of the PDA industry.
  • by BiggerIsBetter ( 682164 ) on Monday August 04, 2003 @06:47PM (#6610397)

    Great, it looks cool. But I won't be really impressed until they can do it *with* tactile input.

    I had a little think about that, and I wonder if an small targeted electric/static charge could be used to simulate a touch sensation, or perhaps find a way to manipulate water vapour (or something else?) in the air - eg flash freeze a very thin layer just before finger "contact". I'm just pulling this out of my ass, but there must be a way of doing it...

  • by merlin_jim ( 302773 ) <{James.McCracken} {at} {stratapult.com}> on Tuesday August 05, 2003 @08:25AM (#6614073)
    Well, from http://nths.newtrier.k12.il.us/academics/math/Conn ections/light/hologrsn.htm

    Amazingly, a hologram may be cut in half and you will still see the entire image. And you can cut one of the pieces in half again and again and see the entire image. Every part of the hologram has received and recorded light from the entire object!

    Now how does it work? Basically, a film hologram is more than just a fancy trick you are playing with light; the entire piece of film is involved in recreating the image. Every piece of film holds all of the information about the object and they all contribute to the whole. By reducing the size of the film; you simply reduce the size of the object.

    A better explanation: http://www.emergentmind.org/miller-webbI3b.htm

    oh and as for other neat treaks with film holograms? Let's say you have a complicated, fussy optics array. You spend days tuning it and getting it perfectly in focus. Now let's say this optics array is going to be used to focus the aiming laser on an abrams tank. Or as the projection lens for the periscope in a submarine.

    You COULD ruggedize the whole setup, and field tune it occasionally.

    But you could also use holography; you take a hologram of the entire setup, and the hologram acts exactly like the original optics, up to the resolution of the hologram, at the wavelength you used. You can make what's called a whitelight or broadband hologram.

    I don't know why the eyeglasses companies haven't latched onto this. Cheap, light eyeglasses that don't need to be ground or anything. Just cut out the shape to fit the eyepiece, patch it in, and go.

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