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Who Owns Science? 308

immerrath writes "The New York Times has an article [Sorry, tomorrow's article, no Google link yet] on a movement that is rapidly gaining support in the scientific community: the Public Library of Science(PLoS). The founders, Nobel Laureate Harold Varmus, Stanford biologist Pat Brown and Berkeley Lab scientist Michael Eisen, argue that scientific literature cannot be privately controlled or owned by the publishers of scientific journals, and must instead be available in public archives freely accessible by anyone and everyone. This has very important implications for the fundamental principle that Science must transcend all economic, national and other barriers. For a while now, PLoS has been trying to get scientific journals to release the rights to scientific papers; many major journals have not complied -- in response, PLoS is starting PLoS-standard-compliant journals (for which they received a $9 million grant from the Gordon and Betty Moore Foundation), to demonstrate the validity of the idea and persuade academic publishers to adopt the free access model. They even have a GPL-like open access Licence, and their journals have some very prominent scientists on the editorial board. Here is the text of an earlier Newsweek article about PLoS, and here is a Nature Public Debate explaining the issues. Michael Eisen received the 2002 Benjamin Franklin award for his work on PLoS. Don't forget to sign the PLoS open letter!"
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  • Google link? (Score:0, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 16, 2002 @09:46PM (#4903728)
    New Premise in Science: Get the Word Out Quickly, Online
    By AMY HARMON

    A group of prominent scientists is mounting an electronic challenge to the leading scientific journals, accusing them of holding back the progress of science by restricting online access to their articles so they can reap higher profits.

    Supported by a $9 million grant from the Gordon and Betty Moore Foundation, the scientists say that this week they will announce the creation of two peer-reviewed online journals on biology and medicine, with the goal of cornering the best scientific papers and immediately depositing them in the public domain.
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    By providing a highly visible alternative to what they view as an outmoded system of distributing information, the founders hope science itself will be transformed. The two journals are the first of what they envision as a vast electronic library in which no one has to pay dues or seek permission to read, copy or use the collective product of the world's academic research.

    "The written record is the lifeblood of science," said Dr. Harold E. Varmus, a Nobel laureate in medicine who is serving as the chairman of the new nonprofit publisher. "Our ability to build on the old to discover the new is all based on the way we disseminate our results."

    By contrast, established journals like Science and Nature charge steep annual subscription fees and bar access to their online editions to nonsubscribers, although Science recently began providing free electronic access to articles a year after publication.

    The new publishing venture, Public Library of Science, is an outgrowth of several years of friction between scientists and the journals over who should control access to scientific literature in the electronic age. For most scientists, who typically assign their copyright to the journals for no compensation, the main goal is to distribute their work as widely as possible.

    Academic publishers argue that if they made the articles more widely available they would lose the subscription revenue they need to ensure the quality of the editorial process. Far from holding back science, they say, the journals have played a crucial role in its advancement as a trusted repository of significant discovery.

    "We have very high standards, and it is somewhat costly," said Dr. Donald Kennedy, the editor of Science. "We're dealing in a market whether we like it or not."

    Science estimates that 800,000 people read the magazine electronically now, compared with 140,000 readers of the print version. Given the number of downloads at universities like Harvard and Stanford, which buy site licenses for about $5,000 a year, the magazine says people are reading articles for only a few cents each.

    In many cases even such small per-article charges to access a digital database can make for substantial income. The Dutch-British conglomerate Reed Elsevier Group, the world's largest academic publisher, posted a 30 percent profit last year on its science publishing activities. Science took in $34 million last year on advertising alone.

    But supporters of the Public Library of Science say the point is not how much money the journals make, but their monopoly control over literature that should belong to the public.

    "We would be perfectly happy for them to have huge profit margins providing that in exchange for all this money we're giving them we got to own the literature and the literature did not belong to them," said Dr. Michael B. Eisen, a biologist at Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory and the University of California, and a founder of the Public Library of Science.

    When scientists relied on print-and-paper journals to distribute their work, the Library's supporters argue, it made sense to charge for access, since each copy represented an additional expense. But they say that at a time when the Internet has reduced distribution costs to almost zero, a system that grants journals exclusive rights over distribution is no longer necessary.

    By publishing on the Internet and forgoing any profits, the new venture says it is now possible to maintain a high-quality journal without charging subscription fees.

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  • by mikecheng ( 3359 ) on Monday December 16, 2002 @09:48PM (#4903757) Homepage Journal
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  • Check out arXiv.org (Score:5, Informative)

    by Samir Gupta ( 623651 ) on Monday December 16, 2002 @09:52PM (#4903798) Homepage
    Many authors of scientific papers, at least in Physics, Math, and CS are making preprints available for free on arXiv.org [arxiv.org]. This is a great site, and as a fellow scientist, I for one would like to see more authors do this and make their knowledge accessible to those who don't want to feed greedy journal publishers.
  • by sunguru ( 219528 ) on Monday December 16, 2002 @09:57PM (#4903850) Homepage
    This is exactly the kind of stuff being done today up at Dartmouth College. The fMRI Data Center [fmridc.org] is home to a public data warehouse of MRI scans. Publishing research involves more than just glossy pictures and a paper, the actual data should be shared to allow others to repeat the experiment.

    The community [nature.com] has not yet decided if this is a good idea but they will come around.
  • e Print Archives (Score:2, Informative)

    by mentatjack ( 309991 ) on Monday December 16, 2002 @10:01PM (#4903878) Homepage Journal
    I keep abreast of current science using http://xxx.lanl.gov

    Articles show up in the ePrint archive often 6 months before they shows up in the journals.
  • Re:Bad Idea (Score:2, Informative)

    by Rainier Wolfecastle ( 591298 ) on Monday December 16, 2002 @10:11PM (#4903950)

    Don't forget, this $1500 fee, which might just seem a tad expensive to labs in North America, is oftentimes backbreaking to struggling third-world labs. Science has already strayed from discovery to business. The last thing we need is financial discrimination to totally exclude certain sections of the scientific community.

  • Re:Bad Idea (Score:3, Informative)

    by Alomex ( 148003 ) on Monday December 16, 2002 @10:19PM (#4904014) Homepage
    Very few journals make a profit

    Actually, academic journals used to make small profits until the mid-1980s, when a wave of consolidations changed this entirely. In fact, last time I looked into this (a few years back) the profits of academic journal publishing divisions had been rising steadily and well above inflation.

    A typical journal article is paid for by the investigators to cover costs of printing.

    Wrong again. Depends very much on the area. Math and computer science are not this way. Physics is about half and half, with some journals being free, others charging above a certain number of pages, and lastly others charging a per-page fee.

  • Re:Bad Idea (Score:5, Informative)

    by gilroy ( 155262 ) on Monday December 16, 2002 @10:25PM (#4904059) Homepage Journal
    Blockquoth the poster:

    These people are asking authors to pay $1500 per paper to cover the editorial costs. This is a Bad Idea.

    Maybe, maybe not. In any event, in many fields of science, the investigator already pays. That's right -- for some journals, the author pays to publish, the subscriber pays to receive, and the journal holds the copyright! When I was a grad student, way back in the early 1990s, Astrophysical Journal charged about $100 per page.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 16, 2002 @10:28PM (#4904087)
    Those that would steal their hard work because "Science is for everyone" doesn't quite grasp the concept of the reward system.

    Someone doesn't understand the concept of the academic reward system, all right. Unfortunately, that person is you.

    1) Scientists (and other academics) get their rewards (tenure, grants, etc.) by publishing material so that others can build on it, not by hoarding it or selling it for large amounts of money. That's how academia works.

    2) Academics almost never get any money from journal articles. In fact, some journals CHARGE THE ACADEMIC FOR PRINTING THEM.

    In the past, journals were expensive for a legitimate reason: printing a small press run (and let's face it, most academic journals have circulations measured in the hundreds or low thousands) resulted in a very high unit cost.

    Now, with online publishing, there's no reason for this, yet the journal publishers are still charging exorbitant fees to their subscribers.

    Academic publishing isn't anything like commercial fiction or non-fiction publishing, sorry. It's an entirely different business model.

    If you have a vision of some guy doing neurobiology becoming the next Tom Clancy, you're just wrong.
  • by JanneM ( 7445 ) on Monday December 16, 2002 @10:49PM (#4904194) Homepage
    I sent more or less this as a reply to the editorial board of the New York Times earlier today:

    You had a feature describing the reality of scientific publishing today.
    As a scientist I can unfortunatey inform you that it was nowhere near
    the actual situation today.

    This is the typical sequence of events for a scientific publication:

    1) We do science. This is sort of a basic prerequisite for anything else
    to happen. It is also usually funded directly by the public, or
    indirectly funded by various foundations. This part - which by many is
    seen as our core competency - is largely funded by public institutions.

    2) We try to publish. Now, here is the problem: We try to publish in the
    most 'prestigious' journals that we can. Why? Because the number of
    papers that we publish - and the importance of the journals that we
    publish in - is absolutely critical to our future careers. And our
    carreers is rather important to things like money for food, clothes to
    our children and so on. There is no certainty in the academic world
    apart from the one that expounds that few papers = few citations = no
    future. Of course, having a lot of papers in prestigious journals
    guarantees nothing except a greater chance of being noticed.

    3) So, our important paper has been sent away - in some cases with a $10
    charge (or more) per page. This paper is immediately sent on to the editors. Who
    are the editors? Why, our own colleagues. The very act of being an
    editor for any publication is still regarded as being important. In no
    case is either the author nor editor compensated for anything-

    4) Now, after several rounds between us, the editor and the reviewers
    (who, like the editor, are doing the work for free), the paper is
    finallyu ready for publication. Observe that not only is the content
    finalized, but the entire typographical layout has been perfected by the
    very same authours that are being paid by the university (ie. either a
    private grant or by the public) to do research, but are now spending a
    month of their time making usre their manuscript is conforming to the
    smallest detail to the publications' standards.

    4.5) As a small addendum, the authors are requested to sign a form
    agreeing to the publication actually publishing the paper in question.
    The researchers, having little choice, sign it.

    5) Finally, the paper is out. It appears, formated exactly as the
    researchers did it, in the next 'issue'. The number of 'issues' is equal
    to the number of research libraries prepared to pay $5000 or more for
    four issues of maybe four or five of these papers a year.

    These publications pay nothing for the content (the researchers
    sometimes evan pay cash to get content into them), editing (it is done
    for free by otherresearchers) or typesetting (as it is done by the
    researchers themselves). The total work for these publishers is
    maximally in one half-time secretarial position to connect papers with
    appropriate editors and reviewers. Yet they charge $5000 per year (or
    more - sometimes much more) for four issues - or more than $10 per page -
    for the very same results that the univerities, and, in the end, the
    public, has paid for being conducted in teh first place.

    6) So, even with this gouging, our researcher and her doctoral students
    have at least a good publictaion to their name? Well, no. It turns out
    that the to publish the rsults, the publishing company actually owns the
    text of the paper. The doctoral students can not use the text they have
    written as part of their theses. The people that have done the research
    - and that want only to spread the results to their colleagues - do no
    longer own their own text. Only with permission - and with a great deal
    of money - may they actually use their own text in other situations,
    like on the web or in their onwn theses.

    The end result is that the authors do all the preparatorial work, using the publics' money; the editors and reviewers does their work using the publics money, and som printer somewhere prints a few hundred copies of the publication for a standard (low) fee. Meanwhile the company owning the publication retains the ownership of the papers and $5000 minus the printing cost of one (out of a few hundred (at the max)) printed copies of the journal.

    Hell yes, I'd be delighted with being in a business with a 20000% profit margin...

  • citeseer.org (Score:5, Informative)

    by timeOday ( 582209 ) on Monday December 16, 2002 @10:58PM (#4904231)
    I'm surprised nobody has mentioned citeseer.org yet. This is a big archives/search engine of published papers (mostly or all CS). I have had far better luck tracking down references at citeseer than anywhere else, including my university and workplaces' libraries, and paid online subscriptions (acm.org, ieeexplore, etc).

    I think (and hope) that this will continue to take off and become more and more complete.

  • Re:google research (Score:3, Informative)

    by twistedcubic ( 577194 ) on Monday December 16, 2002 @11:00PM (#4904245)
    One exists, and is surprisingly very good.

    http://www.scirus.com/
  • Pubmed central (Score:5, Informative)

    by smoondog ( 85133 ) on Monday December 16, 2002 @11:23PM (#4904375)
    I really believe the best way to forward the open science movement is to publish using open standards. They are there. Pubmed central is one of them. I have, have you? [biomedcentral.com]

    -Sean Mooney, PhD
    Stanford University
  • Re:google research (Score:1, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 16, 2002 @11:28PM (#4904409)
    At least for CS (and related) papers, citeseer does a very good job. http://citeseer.nj.nec.com/cs
  • by gene_tailor ( 601527 ) on Monday December 16, 2002 @11:52PM (#4904550) Journal
    The author makes some very good points, but I have one quibble: "The doctoral students cannot use the text they have written as part of their theses" is not a true statement. My PhD thesis contains three chapters that were previously published, and that's typical for many others I know (in biology, anyway -- is there some other rule in other fields?).
  • Re:Bad Idea (Score:5, Informative)

    by Michael Eisen ( 634874 ) on Tuesday December 17, 2002 @01:06AM (#4904975)
    Sorry for bad formatting on previous post.

    As one of the organizers of Public Library of Science, I'd like to respond.

    From the outside, $1500 per article may seem like a lot. If you think of this as individual researchers digging into their own pockets to pay to publish the results of their research, sound a bit unreasonable. But that is not what we are proposing.

    The reality is that it costs money to provide the services that authors expect from a top scientific journal: rigorous peer-review, editorial oversight, and high production standards. We (the scientific community and the institutions, funding agencies and taxpayers that support us) are already paying journals to provide this service - total annual expenditures on scientific journals are well in excess of $1 billion per year.

    We are asking the funding agencies, universities and research institutions that support our work to recognize that the costs of publication are a fundamental part of the scientific research process. If they committed to directly paying journals to provide peer-review, editorial oversight and production (rather than indirectly as they do now) the latest scientific discoveries could be made freely available online to every scientist and physician or interested citizen in the world in comprehensive, searchable open archives of the scientific literature.

    There is a growing consensus in the community that this is a sensible model (it is supported by the Howard Hughes Medical Institute and several major universities including the University of California and Harvard).

    The system of giving away the copyrights to the original research reports and then paying to access them is woefully anachronistic. It costs more and it effectively deprives most of the world - including the people whose taxes paid for the research in the first place - from having any meaningful access to the results.

    You are right to be concerned that $1500 is a steep price to pay for a student, or a scientist from a small university or poor country. We never want our publication charges to be a barrier to publication, and will publish any paper that our editors and reviewers deem to be appropriate for the journals, either by significantly reducing or waiving the charges. In addition, organization like the Soros Open Society Institute, are providing funds to help offset the costs of publication for scientists from developing countries.

    I should also note that we expect the costs to decline significantly over time, as automated methods for peer-review develop, and as authors start to more widely use tools that allow for automatic conversion of documents to XML and properly formatted XML. In the end, the remaining costs will be primarily for editorial oversight, and authors will be able to choose the level that is appropriate for their work.

    Your concern about conflicts of interest are unwarranted. There were certainly be journals that will, for a fee, publish anything that is sent to them. These already exist. However, nobody will want to publish their works in these journals since the citation will carry no significance. Why pay to publish in a journal that publishes anything when you can just post the article on the web for free? Many journals will still have a tremendous incentive to maintain high editorial standards, because this is something that scientists value.

    Finally, you are correct that in fields like mathematics, computer science and physics, many works are already freely available. This, however, isn't true in biology and medicine, and thus initiatives like this are essential.

  • by MattHaffner ( 101554 ) on Tuesday December 17, 2002 @01:43AM (#4905215)
    A few comments on your comments :)

    First, remember that in this new public scheme, the authors still (well that's the standard in my field... astro) have to foot the bill for publishing. So, yes, it might be easier to get access to the publications, but there is still that wall to publish.

    Second, the point about arXiv.org is that you can put your paper there as well as publish in a 'prestigious' journal. At least, in my field, there hasn't been an argument from publishers (to my knowledge) for anyone to send papers there as well. As well, we have not had any problems having students use published papers in their theses. In fact, it's encouraged by most(?) faculty since it's great to have on your vita when you graduate and it lends more credence to your thesis results (in a case where peer-review is working properly).

    In fact, in some cases in astro it's gone to the extreme where pre-reviewed papers appear on arXiv.org (astro-ph in our lingo) and get incorporated into newly written papers before the referenced one has even been accepted/published. This happens more in the 'hot-topic' fields than anywhere. I, personally, am not all that crazy about that aspect of this public archive. In particular, without the ability for public discussion of said papers, there's little recourse for non-experts to wade into these non-reviewed papers and have some hint that they're verifiable (again, assuming peer-reviewing is working for the most part).

    mh
  • by Michael Eisen ( 634874 ) on Tuesday December 17, 2002 @01:46AM (#4905234)
    Ideas like these are precisely what drove us to create Public Library of Science in the first place.

    The plan you outline here is very similar to those set out by Harold Varmus while he was NIH Director in his e-biomed proposal. See the original proposal [nih.gov] and comments.

    Unfortunately (and not unexpectedly) this plan came under withering assault from the established publishers who cast it as a government takeover of the publishing industry.

    So, in its place, Varmus launched PubMed Central [pubmedcentral.gov] - an open archive of the scientific literature that would allow full-searching and free downloads.

    However, content still needs to be placed into PMC, and most publishers (the pioneering BioMed Central [biomedcentral.com] excepted) will not do this, or do so only after a delay or with restrictions.

    It is a desire to see PMC and similar open archives of the scientific liteture thrive that drived PLoS.

  • by MattHaffner ( 101554 ) on Tuesday December 17, 2002 @02:36AM (#4905472)

    Scientific journal articles are produced by academicians who are paid by the state (state and federal taxes), students, donors, grants (the state again). They are paid to research and teach and make no or little money by being published, except for change in faculty status.


    The first part of what you say is espeically true for my field (astronomy), there is certainly no denying it. However, the last part is probably not strong enough. In most fields, I'd imagine that it's not just a 'change in status' that one is looking for, but for career survival.

    And, really, that's OK because if there wasn't that motivation, what would drive one to sit down an waste time writing up what you've done for the last few months instead of plunging forward with fun, new stuff? And, in an economic sense, this motivation, no matter how ego/self-centered it can be twisted to appear, is important for documenting the product of those tax dollars spent. Even if published in journals with subscription fees, the research is 'out there' and you can ask the author for a reprint or she/he can put it up on their website/FTP/Gnutella (at least for all the publications I submit to...). So, in the long run, I think it's a much better motivation than the possibility that you would be paid for submitting, that's for sure.


    So, we've already paid for their research. The journals are charging people for what they've already paid for. Yes, they add the value of filtering, but the same could be achieved by an epinions.com like system, which would be much more effective than the journal's anonymous peer reviews.


    Filtering certainly has gotten a lot of press lately, but it's not the only function of the peer review. When it works well (and I've had the pleasure of seeing and hearing of it working well in many instances recently), a reviewer/editor can actually recommend articles to be published that they've verified (to some extent) are accurate in method but that they don't agree with in interpretation. It's very tough to do, but I've seen it happen several times recently and it restores my faith in this system a little. Remember that a lot of great science actually comes from the fringe first and takes a long time to be 'accepted'. I belive science would loose a lot going to a model where public opinion (even if the 'public' is just field colleagues) rules.

    I think this model does have a place though. There are a lot of preprint archive servers popping up in many fields. The one we use (arXiv.org/astro-ph) is one of the oldest. Since such places are never going to do filtering, I personally think that these could benefit from a little public discussion to put submissions in context. Sometimes results from these places are used in other works before they are published. I'm not too hip on that, personally.


    Why this will not happen: academicians themselves are unwilling, unable, or unlikely to change and stop relying on or submitting to paper journals.


    Maybe astronomy is different than other sciences, but I don't think I've looked up a paper in a 'papyrus' journal in years. In fact, I first met the current librarian in the coffee room a few months after she started. I barely go to the library anymore and nearly all our journals publish on-line with multiple media options as well (PDF/HTML/PS). It's been great, but bad for burning those few extra calories a day ;)

    Frankly, I wouldn't care if all the journals I submitted to stopped producing paper copies.
  • by ancientreader ( 256890 ) <industrially_challenged&yahoo,com> on Tuesday December 17, 2002 @10:54AM (#4906992)
    In fact, for most reputable journals, researchers have to pay a fee to the journal just to submit a research study for consideration of it being published. Researchers receive no discounts on subscription or money from journals for publishing (it's not like they're submitting jokes to reader's digest...)

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