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Wake Up and Smell the Nauseating Coffee 66

jacobjyu writes "The NY Times is running a story about a coffee roasting plant being accused of polluting the air. The city inspector claims the smells are making people sick, however the plant owner retorts, 'This is not a smell that makes people sick ... This is one of those sweet smells like cut flowers, like fresh-baked bread, that's part and parcel of life in every city across the world.' Whatever the case, some people are claiming plastic-smelling fumes coming from the stacks: my only question is what the heck are they putting in this coffee??"
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Wake Up and Smell the Nauseating Coffee

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  • Nuisance (Score:4, Insightful)

    by MacAndrew ( 463832 ) on Wednesday December 11, 2002 @04:50PM (#4865364) Homepage
    The administrative code under which Gillies was cited specifies that "no person shall cause or permit the emission of air contaminant, including odorous air contaminant . . . if the air contaminant . . . may cause detriment to the health, safety, welfare or comfort of any person."

    That's a pretty darn broad regulation once you throw "or comfort" in at the end. The stadard boilerplate formula is "health/safety/welfare" which are considerably less subjective. Badly-worded rule right there.

    As for the smell, and to be technical no one has the right to force anyone else to smell anything in particular, it's technically a nuisance and could range from baking bread to sticking offal. Usually we keep conflicts down by zoning where things like pig farming can take place.

    Now, I have no trouble regulating it if the coffee really smells like "burning plastic" or even vanilla hazelnut. (Between the two I'd pick the plastic, and that's because I like coffee.) Interesting Q: How do you try this in court? Take air samples and blow them in jurors' faces? I think you'd have to have a field trip.

    Anyway ... uh ... why is this a /. story? Are we supposed to think the critical supply of roasted coffee beans is imperiled here?
  • Re:Decaffeinated (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Strange Ranger ( 454494 ) on Wednesday December 11, 2002 @04:57PM (#4865443)
    Actually I did RTFA and it only says they are not using plastics. I also visited his company's web site [gilliescoffee.com] where they advertise decaffeinated coffee. And read the addendum [ineedcoffee.com] to the decaffeination link I posted above that Schoenholt wrote himself. He advocates using Methylene Chloride.
    "Methylene Chloride


    Methylene Chloride is a synthetic chemical solvent. It is not naturally found but must be created by chlorinating methane gas. It sounds terrible but it makes very good tasting decaf.

    About The Author:
    Donald N. Schoenholt can be reached at:
    Gillies Coffee Co.
    America's Oldest Coffee Merchant
    Toll Free: 1-800-344-5526
    Fax: 1-718-499-7771"


    Something tells me Methylene Chloride smells like plastic.
  • Re:Decaffeinated (Score:3, Insightful)

    by zenyu ( 248067 ) on Wednesday December 11, 2002 @06:39PM (#4866469)
    If they are using a chemical decaffeination process [ineedcoffee.com] that would likely cause the stink. You know most of the time I have pretty much a live and let live attitude. But something inside me just feels that de-cafe-inated cafe is wrong! I didn't want to write that exclamation point, but I simply could not help it. No one sells "water free mineral water", it just wouldn't be right. Even tofu burgers are clearly labeled. They are not sold as "debeefed beef patties." I think at the very least that drink made from removing the coffee from coffee should be sold under some other name. I propose "nes-yuck" or "nes-crud" for the products of that evil company that makes "instant coffee" or for the generic name, a simple yet descriptive two worder, "nasty crap." But really, if friggin pot and coke can be illegal cuz they make people feel good, why not such a great affront to nature as nasty crap?

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