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## A Much Bigger Piece Of Pi729

Punk_Rock_Johnny points to an AP story on Pi-obsessed Professor Yasumasa Kanada. A snippet from the story: "Kanada and a team of researchers set a new world record by calculating the value of pi to 1.24 trillion places, project team member Makoto Kudo said yesterday. The previous record, set by Kanada in 1999, was 206.158 billion places." Trillion! "
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## A Much Bigger Piece Of Pi

• #### Well ... what is it? (Score:3, Funny)

on Saturday December 07, 2002 @10:00AM (#4832392)
How about we see this bad boy!? I'd sure like to paste it into my "info.txt" file for future referance. It could come in handy sometime.
• #### If Pi were made into a classic video game... (Score:3, Funny)

on Saturday December 07, 2002 @10:02AM (#4832402) Homepage
We would have either found the end by now or discovered a pattern.

heh.
• #### Re:One simple question (Score:3, Funny)

on Saturday December 07, 2002 @10:04AM (#4832408)
Because pi is there. And they still have found only the tiniest fraction of the total of decimals of pi...

Nyh!
• #### The 1.24th trillion digit of pi is .. (Score:5, Funny)

on Saturday December 07, 2002 @10:04AM (#4832411) Homepage
The number Six!
• #### Re:math question about pi (Score:5, Funny)

on Saturday December 07, 2002 @10:06AM (#4832419)
You can write Pi as 1 (base Pi).

• #### How to calculate PI yourself (Score:5, Funny)

on Saturday December 07, 2002 @10:06AM (#4832422)
One way to calculate for yourself the value of pi is to drop a lot of toothpicks onto a large piece of paper that has lines drawn on it!

Here's how it works. You'll need several boxes of toothpicks. Get a large piece of chart paper, and draw parallel lines on it, from one side to the other. The lines should be separated by a distance just slightly larger than the length of a toothpick.

From a height of about one metre, drop a measured number of toothpicks onto the chart paper, so that they all fall randomly somewhere on the paper. Count how many toothpicks are touching a line (or would be, if they weren't resting on another toothpick).

Repeat this process as many times as you can. Lots of people can do it at once. All that's important is that, each time you drop some toothpicks, you write down how many you dropped, and how many of those ended up touching a line. When you're done, find a total for each quantity.

You now have all the numbers you need to calculate Pi:

c ... toothpick length (in mm) <BR>
a ... line separation (in mm) <BR>
N ... total number of toothpicks dropped <BR>
M ... total number of intersections <BR>
(c must be less than a) <BR>

Now here's the formula you need to calculate Pi:

PI = 2cN / aM
Fill them in the formula, and work out your own value of Pi!
• #### Faking it ... (Score:3, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 07, 2002 @10:07AM (#4832428)
How to fake it:
int main()
{
cout << 3.1415926535897932384626433832795;

for(int i=0; i<1000000000000; i++)
cout << rand();

return 0;
}
• #### I love this Quote (Score:5, Funny)

on Saturday December 07, 2002 @10:10AM (#4832439) Homepage
I love this quote:
Among the most puzzling mysteries: Mathematicians are pretty sure, but still cannot prove conclusively, that the numbers following 3.141592 occur randomly.

"I don't think we're any closer to answering this question than the Greeks were 2,500 years ago," Borwein said.

Um, you have 1.24 trillion digits of pi. I think you can begin a statisticall analisys now.
• #### OMG! That's 4+2 !!!!! (Score:5, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 07, 2002 @10:13AM (#4832457)
42 really is the answer to life, the universe, and everything!!!
• #### Re:How to calculate PI yourself (Score:5, Funny)

on Saturday December 07, 2002 @10:20AM (#4832485)
One way to calculate for yourself the value of pi is to drop a lot of toothpicks onto a large piece of paper that has lines drawn on it!

You are toothpicks seller, aren't you?
• #### Re:How? (Score:3, Funny)

on Saturday December 07, 2002 @10:20AM (#4832488) Homepage Journal

Here's a program written in BrainF*ck to calculate pi: http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~jafowler/pi/pi. b [harvard.edu]

Here's the analysis of the program [harvard.edu], and a link to what the Turing-inspired BrainF*ck [catseye.mb.ca] programming language is about.

• #### Re:Huge! (Score:4, Funny)

on Saturday December 07, 2002 @10:21AM (#4832491)
Not with my doctors handwriting ... it'd still fit onto a prescription! ;-)
• #### Re:math question about pi (Score:3, Funny)

on Saturday December 07, 2002 @10:24AM (#4832507) Homepage Journal
He said other then base Pi.

You can write it as 0.5 (base 2Pi)
• #### Re:You know ... you would think ... (Score:2, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 07, 2002 @10:25AM (#4832517)
Taking the equation two divided by three I have found the 100000 trillionth digit ... it's "3"

Actually, if you divide two by three the 100000 trillionth digit would be "6" ... but what do I know ;)
• #### Re:The 1.24th trillion digit of pi is .. (Score:2, Funny)

on Saturday December 07, 2002 @10:29AM (#4832526)

Bert: My favorite number is 6.
Ernie: Bert, nobody's favorite number is 6!

• #### Cartman (Score:2, Funny)

on Saturday December 07, 2002 @10:34AM (#4832548)
Cartman may be round, but even he had to say...

No... more... pie...

-Zaphod

• #### Re:How to calculate PI yourself (Score:1, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 07, 2002 @10:38AM (#4832571)
Are you advocating closed-source software now?
• #### Re:I love this Quote (Score:2, Funny)

on Saturday December 07, 2002 @10:45AM (#4832603)
But what if the resolution of the pattern is 1.24 trillion places?

And if they occur randomly, how the heck can we know that the formulas we're using to calculate pi are correct?

• #### In other news (Score:5, Funny)

on Saturday December 07, 2002 @10:46AM (#4832608) Homepage Journal
Kanada and a team of researchers

"While we were looking through through the binary version of Pi, and one of our special forces noticed that hidden in from digit 12,166,133,883 onwards was a c source to DeCSS. Obviously these terrorists must be stopped!"

The case is not expected to hold up, as it is doubtful canada will be able to proove it has the computing power [mcgill.ca] to calculate Pi beyond 4 decimal places - and no confusion can occur.
• #### Re:One simple question (Score:3, Funny)

on Saturday December 07, 2002 @10:51AM (#4832628)
Damn, if I could only compute e^(i*pi) with a trillion digits precision...
• #### there was an earlier /. article on pi (Score:2, Funny)

on Saturday December 07, 2002 @10:59AM (#4832667)
that stated that somebody proved each number subset within pi appears as often as every other subset: '123' appears as often as '321' and '213' and '312' and such... it went on to state that this proves that every possible set appears somewhere, and as often as every other set...

this means that any electronic file could be represented as a start and stop position within pi if you knew the proper place to be... in other news MPAA/RIAA declare PI to be illegal...
• #### Full text of article: (Score:5, Funny)

<<gro.kred> <ta> <kred>> on Saturday December 07, 2002 @11:04AM (#4832700) Homepage
3.14159265358979323846264338327950288...... ah, this is gonna take a while :-/
• #### Pi (Score:3, Funny)

on Saturday December 07, 2002 @11:11AM (#4832735)
is EXACTLY 3.

• #### Bah - another incomplete article (Score:5, Funny)

on Saturday December 07, 2002 @11:14AM (#4832749)
I can't believe you report this and don't even include the value of Pi he calculated in the article!

I guess I'll have to wait for one of the page widening trolls to post it.
• #### woh (Score:1, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 07, 2002 @11:17AM (#4832762)
that would be a killer root pass
• #### woo (Score:3, Funny)

<nomadicworld AT gmail DOT com> on Saturday December 07, 2002 @11:26AM (#4832800) Homepage
Now I finally have the measurements needed to make my cookies PERFECTLY round.
• #### Re:Well ... what is it? (Score:3, Funny)

on Saturday December 07, 2002 @11:53AM (#4832910) Homepage
You only need 1 digit in base 1.24_trillion*!!! I can store it in one byte (for sufficiently large bytes).

(*) give or take. probably mostly take.

• #### accuracy (Score:5, Funny)

on Saturday December 07, 2002 @12:05PM (#4832975)
> pi to 1.24 trillion places,

Wow! Imagine the improved accuracy this will bring to our everyday scientific calculations :)
• #### Reminds me of that commercial... (Score:4, Funny)

on Saturday December 07, 2002 @12:11PM (#4833004) Journal
There is a U.S. cable net commercial where the guy is sitting at his computer and all of a sudden a dialog box comes up and says "You've reached the end of the Internet, there are no more pages left to see." and the guy says "Woah, honey, come here..."

Imagine this program screaming along calculating a few more trillion places when all of a sudden it stops. Pi is NOT infinite after all.

Imagine the hiliarity that would ensue (oops, wrong web site...)

by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 07, 2002 @12:12PM (#4833012)
according to a quick calculation, downloading pi to this many decimal places would cost \$7,810.15 (cdn) in over-your-bandwidth charges if you are connected through bell sympatico DSL.

long live pi. down with bell.
• #### Re:Signature of God? (Score:2, Funny)

on Saturday December 07, 2002 @12:13PM (#4833016) Journal
So...
What we need right now is a distributed client to search for the ISO of a Linux 5.6 based distribution so that we can replace windows on the desktop. =-)
• #### Re:Well ... what is it? (Score:0, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 07, 2002 @12:24PM (#4833059)
Now divide by 8 to get bytes, and viola!

HA!

And cello! And violin! And guitar!

It's voila smartass
• #### I happen to know (Score:2, Funny)

on Saturday December 07, 2002 @12:31PM (#4833104) Journal

Just how is Pi calculated?

As a matter of fact, I happen to know that this system used a cunning mechanism containing a Canadian-built robotic arm, a No. 10 coffee can, a piece of string and a ruler. The machine measured the circumference and diameter of the can over and over again, and then sort of calculated the margin of error (correlated against 22/7) over and over again. And voila! It was discovered that pi is in fact 3.142857143...

Mind you, the article said they calculated pi to over a trillion places. They didn't say it was *accurate*.

Cheers,

Ethelred [grantham.de]

• #### Re:Signature of God? (Score:1, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 07, 2002 @12:35PM (#4833123)
Proof that God is a male! He used his fingers and his, er... divine rod!
• #### Re:I dunno about you, but... (Score:5, Funny)

on Saturday December 07, 2002 @12:38PM (#4833143) Homepage
The Mac version of this program could be called Apple Pi.
• #### Re:Well ... what is it? (Score:3, Funny)

on Saturday December 07, 2002 @12:59PM (#4833239)
The best ASCII representation to send would be "pi".
• #### Re:One simple question (Score:3, Funny)

on Saturday December 07, 2002 @01:30PM (#4833398)
put a disclaimer on these posts moderators ;-)

I don't need a 20 page proof to tell me the moderators are irrational.
• #### Re:Full text of article: (Score:3, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 07, 2002 @03:36PM (#4834083)
(314) 159-2653
• #### If you don't think Pie recurrs... (Score:3, Funny)

on Saturday December 07, 2002 @04:24PM (#4834291)
aparently you've never eaten Thanksgiving dinner at my place. Give it an hour or two, and you're bound to see it make a reappearance...
• #### Re:For comparison... (Score:4, Funny)

on Saturday December 07, 2002 @08:31PM (#4835222)
A google only has 100 zeros, thus 100 places