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Newton's "Principia" stolen 439

Silverleaf writes "O2 have a story on the theft of Isaac Newton's revolutionary "Philosophiae Naturalis Principia Mathematica" from a Russian museum. For the non-physicists among you, Newton first published his famed three laws of motion and his law of universal gravitation in "Principia" in 1687. I'm surprised this theft hasn't attracted more attention in the mainstream media, since "Principia" is generally considered the most important scientific works in history."
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Newton's "Principia" stolen

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  • link broken.. (Score:2, Informative)

    by NotAnotherReboot ( 262125 ) on Monday November 11, 2002 @11:31PM (#4648120)
    Other source of info on this story:

    http://reuters.com/news_article.jhtml?type=human ne ws&StoryID=1715112
  • Working links (Score:3, Informative)

    by HeroicAutobot ( 171588 ) on Monday November 11, 2002 @11:32PM (#4648125) Homepage
    The O2 site seems to have taken the story down.

    Google news has some more links. [google.com]

  • Google Cache (Score:3, Informative)

    by Keebler71 ( 520908 ) on Monday November 11, 2002 @11:33PM (#4648130) Journal
    Here [216.239.33.100] is the cached article
  • Comment removed (Score:5, Informative)

    by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Monday November 11, 2002 @11:36PM (#4648160)
    Comment removed based on user account deletion
  • Moscow Times (Score:1, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 11, 2002 @11:36PM (#4648169)

    The Moscow times mentions [themoscowtimes.com] the theft as well (near the bottom of the page). Not nearly as much publicity as it deserves though.

  • Library link (Score:5, Informative)

    by prostoalex ( 308614 ) on Monday November 11, 2002 @11:37PM (#4648172) Homepage Journal
    Perhaps there should be link to the library [www.nlr.ru] as well. Their online exhibitions section [www.nlr.ru] has some interesting links for a literature buff.
  • by no soup for you ( 607826 ) <jesse.wolgamott@noSPaM.gmail.com> on Monday November 11, 2002 @11:40PM (#4648191) Homepage
    From http://reuters.com/news_article.jhtml?type=humanne ws&StoryID=1715112

    ST PETERSBURG, Russia (Reuters) - Thieves have stolen Newton's "apple" from a Russian museum -- the celebrated book in which the 17th century English physicist formulated his eponymous law on gravity which revolutionized science.

    Posing as readers, the thieves stole a rare first edition of Isaac Newton's "Philosophiae Naturalis Principia Mathematica" from the Russian National Library in St. Petersburg, a library official told Reuters Sunday.

    "The loss was discovered straight away when the reading room was closing on November 6 and it had not been returned by the readers who had requested it," the official said.

    The theft was reported to police Friday.

    Newton's "Principia" (or Mathematical Principles of Natural Philosophy), first published in 1687, is considered to be one of the most important single works in the history of modern science.

    In "Principia" Newton formulates the three laws of motion and the law of universal gravitation.

    Legend has it that the young Newton was reading under an apple tree when he was struck on the head by a falling fruit, an innocuous event which provided the inspiration for his theories on gravity and secured him a place in history.

    His new laws helped him to explain a range of phenomena, including the motion of planets, moons and comets within the solar system, the behavior of Earth's tides, the procession of the equinoxes and irregularities in the moon's orbit.

    The library official said the stolen book was usually kept in the archives and only given out to readers for work in the library's reading room.
  • Comment removed (Score:2, Informative)

    by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Monday November 11, 2002 @11:41PM (#4648198)
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  • by bigsexyjoe ( 581721 ) on Monday November 11, 2002 @11:44PM (#4648208)
    They stole a rare first edition copy. Not the orginal or only copy. It isn't good, but it explains why the press didn't make a big deal out of it.

    It wasn't even kept under tight security. They let people read it in the reading room.

  • Re:It's ok... (Score:3, Informative)

    by spongman ( 182339 ) on Monday November 11, 2002 @11:44PM (#4648209)
    I'd recommend the first one (the blue one). The attention to detail wrt. the translation is amazing.
  • Re:It's ok... (Score:5, Informative)

    by canadian_right ( 410687 ) <alexander.russell@telus.net> on Monday November 11, 2002 @11:50PM (#4648246) Homepage
    He didn't listen to Leibnitz beause he was an egostical maniac, as well as a genuis. Newton independantly invented much of calculus at the same time as Liebnitz, but he did his darnedest to get all the credit. Calculus was a shiny new thing, so it made sense to explain it in his book.
  • Broken Link? (Score:3, Informative)

    by CodeWheeney ( 314094 ) <JimCassidy @ m ail.com> on Monday November 11, 2002 @11:53PM (#4648270) Homepage
    Try Reuters [reuters.com]
  • Re:It's ok... (Score:5, Informative)

    by canadian_right ( 410687 ) <alexander.russell@telus.net> on Monday November 11, 2002 @11:56PM (#4648284) Homepage
    More info on the Newton / Leibniz battle:
    Newton vs Leibniz [uh.edu]
  • Re:It's ok... (Score:4, Informative)

    by rgmoore ( 133276 ) <glandauer@charter.net> on Tuesday November 12, 2002 @12:05AM (#4648340) Homepage

    There's an obvious reason why he did this: none of his readers could be expected to know calculus. It had, after all, just been invented, or was still in the process of being invented. If he wanted people to understand the concepts, he either had to teach them the math or figure out a way of presenting it convincingly without the reader needing to know calculus. Neither one is an easy prospect. I haven't read Principia myself, but I remember a physics prof mentioning that in some cases he deliberately avoided using calculus because he thought that his demonstrations would be more likely to convince people if they didn't use all that new fangled math, and it wound up being vastly more complicated as a result.

  • Re:It's ok... (Score:3, Informative)

    by WatertonMan ( 550706 ) on Tuesday November 12, 2002 @12:06AM (#4648345)
    Which translation did you read? There is one that is accompanied by a very good physics commentary that discusses the theorems and proof as well as contrasting the methods with modern physics. Unfortuantely I lost mine and can't for the life of me remember who the translator was. None of the versions I've seen at Barnes and Nobel or Borders are the one I had. Anyway, Leibniz rules for many reasons, not the least of which is his version of the calculus. The Monadology is a pretty interesting read as well. Even if I don't buy it.
  • by jkramar ( 583118 ) on Tuesday November 12, 2002 @12:11AM (#4648376)
    They did. [uni-karlsruhe.de] I realize this was a joke, but, coincidentally, I had been looking for it online just last week, and the linked site contains a full scanned-in copy of what might very well be the first edition.
  • Re:It's ok... (Score:4, Informative)

    by Syre ( 234917 ) on Tuesday November 12, 2002 @01:35AM (#4648793)
    You can read it here [maths.tcd.ie].
  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 12, 2002 @02:11AM (#4648976)
    Newton proves the principles of calculus with geometry. Calculus basically is geometry. There have been all kinds of notation for calculus over the years, but the notation is really just shorthand for the geometry. If you can't prove it geometrically then, while it still holds true experimentally, it's hard to trace it to its first principles. The point is that you can't really say something is "proved by calculus" now, because what that means is that it's proved by the geometry that Newton uses.

    Still, sure, you can learn all about the application of the math without knowing the theoretical underpinnings all the way back to geometric first principles, but it's much more intellectually rewarding to trace them. And it's necessary in order to say that an equation is "proved" mathematically. Theories do get non-Euclidean sometimes, but you can't really appreciate that unless you know the Euclidean things themselves work.

  • Re:It's ok... (Score:1, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 12, 2002 @02:47AM (#4649106)
    And for those of you unfamiliar with Voltaire: Dr. Pangloss is a character from his work Candide, a comical story about a hapless idiot named Candide. It's quite hilarious, and a recommended read.
  • Re:I'm not surprised (Score:2, Informative)

    by Shynedog ( 555818 ) on Tuesday November 12, 2002 @10:03AM (#4650339)
    I think it's particularly telling but not at all suprising that this hasn't gotten the attention that a theft of other items such as art would get.

    The reason this story hasn't attracted more media attention is that the book wasn't an original. It was a rare first edition, of which there are still 200 left, with 70 in the U.S. alone. See here [bbc.co.uk].

    If a rare "first print" of the Mona Lisa were stolen, yet there were still more than 250 left in the world (not to mention the original), the media would barely even mention it.
  • by Governerd ( 577759 ) on Tuesday November 12, 2002 @11:10AM (#4650744)
    The link to O2 produced a missing page. Here [bbc.co.uk] is BBC's blurb on the same subject.
  • Re:Impossible God (Score:1, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 12, 2002 @01:33PM (#4651966)
    This is a simple and common mistake people make talking about omnipotence. No one claims that God can do what is logically impossible. "Omnipotence" does not mean "able to do what cannot be done", it means "able to do all things".

    Semantically void statements (such as "Why can't God do what cannot be done?") do not constitute valid arguments against omnipotence. Just because you can express a logically ridiculous statement in English doesn't mean that anyone needs to pay attention to it. "A rock so heavy that God can't lift it" (to use the canonical example) has no more semantic meaning than "colorless green ideas". God's inability to create either is no argument against Him.

    Similarly, omniscient does not mean "knows what cannot be known". It means "knows all (possible) things". Something truly unknowable would not violate God's omniscience, since it would not be something which could be known.

    So, while there are perfectly reasonable arguments against God's omnipotence or omniscience, this type of approach is just too simplistic. And too linked to imperfect human language (which allows the formulation of meaningless statements).

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