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NASA Has Plans for 2nd Space Station at L1 439

Keith Gabryelski writes "New Scientist has an article on NASA's unveiling of a "blueprint for the future" of space exploration. It entails a Space Station 5/6ths of the way to the moon. In other news, radiation sheilding on the space station isn't so good."
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NASA Has Plans for 2nd Space Station at L1

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  • by dkarney ( 243740 ) on Wednesday October 23, 2002 @08:00PM (#4518121)
    I've been looking for a summer home
  • yeah but... (Score:5, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 23, 2002 @08:06PM (#4518149)
    radiation sheilding on the space station isn't so good.

    but my tan is great!
  • by IdleTime ( 561841 ) on Wednesday October 23, 2002 @08:06PM (#4518154) Journal
    How much for a trip to this baby?

    And where can I pre-order a ticket?
  • Plan ahead. (Score:5, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 23, 2002 @08:09PM (#4518170)
    "If you sent two people to Mars, one of them would die," says Marco Durante of the Federico II University in Naples

    I think the key to preventing this is to pack enough food that the astronauts are not forced to resort to cannabalism.
  • by drhairston ( 611491 ) on Wednesday October 23, 2002 @08:12PM (#4518190) Homepage
    I don't understand why NASA does not employ lead shielding [thomasregister.com] to protect its astronauts. This time-tested solution is proven and effective.
  • Quick! (Score:5, Funny)

    by NASAKnight ( 588155 ) on Wednesday October 23, 2002 @08:14PM (#4518200) Homepage Journal
    Someone file a patent on flying to the moon! I can see NASA paying some major royalties.
  • by npietraniec ( 519210 ) <npietranNO@SPAMresistive.net> on Wednesday October 23, 2002 @08:14PM (#4518207) Homepage
    Lead is really heavy... Maybe? Do you know how many N*Sync members you could get in space instead of a couple of sheets of lead?
  • by shut_up_man ( 450725 ) on Wednesday October 23, 2002 @08:21PM (#4518249) Homepage
    I agree about the Imax movie, it's excellent. Even Tom Cruise's hugely overdone voiceover doesn't ruin it: "And the VIEW HERE is... AWESOME. Just... AWESOME. No really, it's TOTALLY... AWESOME." Kinda like a cross between Keanu Reeves and William Shatner, with liberal snorts of cocaine.
  • by whovian ( 107062 ) on Wednesday October 23, 2002 @08:25PM (#4518277)
    To the tune of "Home on the Range"

    Home on Lagrange

    Oh, give me a locus
    Where the gravitons focus
    Where the three-body problem is solved
    Where the microwaves play
    Down at 3 degrees K
    And the cold virus never evolved.
  • by Waffle Iron ( 339739 ) on Wednesday October 23, 2002 @08:27PM (#4518300)
    The cost to orbit would be really high.

    But NASA would have finally achieved the alchemists' dream of converting lead to gold. (Or at least making it many times more expensive than gold.)

  • by muertos ( 570792 ) <jbeasley75.gmail@com> on Wednesday October 23, 2002 @08:28PM (#4518306) Journal
    Or send somebody else instead of the guy who'll die.
  • by g4dget ( 579145 ) on Wednesday October 23, 2002 @08:44PM (#4518401)
    The New Scientist is to Nature what the National Enquirer is to the New York Times. But, hey, lots of people read the National Enquirer for fun as well. Only that when people start taking it seriously that people get hurt.
  • by Spunk ( 83964 ) <sq75b5402@sneakemail.com> on Wednesday October 23, 2002 @08:45PM (#4518414) Homepage
    No no, not cannabalism [sic], but half-lives. We know that the half-life of an astronaut is equal to the round trip of a mars expedition. It's something that NASA has been hiding for years, also known as the Terrible [somethingawful.com] Secret [mp3s.com] of Space [jonathonrobinson.com].
  • by visgoth ( 613861 ) on Wednesday October 23, 2002 @08:50PM (#4518441)
    Then why not work on reducing the cost of putting stuff like lead into space? A big railgun could launch raw materials into orbit, where processing plants could actually build the heavy parts of a space station / vessel. The initial cost of a railgun would be more than a single rocket, but it would rapidly pay itself off in savings. Also, you could send stuff up in worse weather than needed for shuttle launches. A shuttle of some sort would still be needed to transport squishy / breakable things like humans and electronics.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 23, 2002 @08:51PM (#4518449)
    Sorry, only Boy Bands and aging millionaires can get tickets to this destination.
  • by dustpuppy ( 5260 ) on Wednesday October 23, 2002 @09:02PM (#4518508)
    now that you have publicised the radiation risk, there is no way that Nsync singer will go into space ... and there dies our last chance of getting him sterilised and stopping him from having offspring ...

  • by Nordberg ( 218317 ) on Wednesday October 23, 2002 @10:57PM (#4518983) Homepage
    Solution: Only send one guy.

    Madhouse: Satirized for your protection. [insaneabode.com]
  • Good. (Score:3, Funny)

    by Griim ( 8798 ) on Wednesday October 23, 2002 @11:04PM (#4519020) Homepage
    It's good to see the L1 (and L2!) buttons getting more use.

    Now if they could also implement R1 and R2.
  • by Tablizer ( 95088 ) on Thursday October 24, 2002 @12:47AM (#4519491) Journal
    Is the IIS over-engineered in favour of preventing un unfortunate death?...."Acceptable risk" is a term that has been lost from the West's vocabulary and it is time to bring it back.

    Perhaps merge NASA and the Darwin Awards.
  • by Tablizer ( 95088 ) on Thursday October 24, 2002 @01:52AM (#4519723) Journal
    Ice is a fairly good radiation shield [for window use]. There's ice on the moon. Problem solved.

    Or just keep pissing on a "starter layer" while working up there from the inside :-)

    A glass layer between the outer window and the environment rooms could perhaps keep the outer layer of water or piss cold enough to stay frozen.

    I saw a documentary on WWII guns the other day. If your gun jammed in the cold weather, then pissing on it was a common trick to get it working again.

    Piss can be a useful tool if resources are thin.
  • by Drunken Coward ( 574991 ) on Thursday October 24, 2002 @02:06AM (#4519767)
    It amazes me that so many allegedly "educated" people have fallen so quickly and so hard for a fraudulent fabrication of such laughable proportions. The very idea that a gigantic ball of rock happens to orbit our planet, showing itself in neat, four-week cycles -- with the same side facing us all the time -- is ludicrous. Furthermore, it is an insult to common sense and a damnable affront to intellectual honesty and integrity. That people actually believe it is evidence that the liberals have wrested the last vestiges of control of our public school system from decent, God-fearing Americans (as if any further evidence was needed! Daddy's Roommate? God Almighty!)

    Documentaries such as Enemy of the State have accurately portrayed the elaborate, byzantine network of surveillance satellites that the liberals have sent into space to spy on law-abiding Americans. Equipped with technology developed by Handgun Control, Inc., these satellites have the ability to detect firearms from hundreds of kilometers up. That's right, neighbors .. the next time you're out in the backyard exercising your Second Amendment rights, the liberals will see it! These satellites are sensitive enough to tell the difference between a Colt .45 and a .38 Special! And when they detect you with a firearm, their computers cross-reference the address to figure out your name, and then an enormous database housed at Berkeley is updated with information about you.

    Of course, this all works fine during the day, but what about at night? Even the liberals can't control the rotation of the Earth to prevent nightfall from setting in (only Joshua was able to ask for that particular favor!) That's where the "moon" comes in. Powered by nuclear reactors, the "moon" is nothing more than an enormous balloon, emitting trillions of candlepower of gun-revealing light. Piloted by key members of the liberal community, the "moon" is strategically moved across the country, pointing out those who dare to make use of their God-given rights at night!

    Yes, I know this probably sounds paranoid and preposterous, but consider this. Despite what the revisionist historians tell you, there is no mention of the "moon" anywhere in literature or historical documents -- anywhere -- before 1950. That is when it was initially launched. When President Josef Kennedy, at the State of the Union address, proclaimed "We choose to go to the moon", he may as well have said "We choose to go to the weather balloon." The subsequent faking of a "moon" landing on national TV was the first step in a long history of the erosion of our constitutional rights by leftists in this country. No longer can we hide from our government when the sun goes down.
  • by anonymous cupboard ( 446159 ) on Thursday October 24, 2002 @02:33AM (#4519855)
    If the habitation module was built in annular form, it would be possible to have on the outermost layers offices for administration (they get the windows) and keep the scientists/engineers in the middle. Thay way administration gets to absorb the radiation first (a nice radiation burn will add to their tan).
  • by hplasm ( 576983 ) on Thursday October 24, 2002 @10:02AM (#4521693) Journal
    If lead is too heavy, AND you can use heavy water for shielding, THEN.....

    usel Light Lead!! (TM). Problem solved.

    Now where's that patent form...?

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