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Space Science

Space Junk Tracked 14

TheToon writes "Remember that "new moon" that turned out to be space junk? NASA has traced the path of it, with an animation. Some close misses on the moon, but it turns out just fine. Junk is on its way now, but might be back in 2040."
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Space Junk Tracked

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  • by spudwiser ( 124577 ) <spudwiser@noSpAM.hotmail.com> on Tuesday October 15, 2002 @02:52PM (#4455344) Journal
    amazing, a stench so powerful it's straight off the funkometer!
  • I know that when it was first realized that this was space junk, a lot of scientists got excited at the possibility that it would hit the moon, and they'd get a chance to get some more mileage out the Apolla-era seismic detectors on the moon.
  • Nice Manuver (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Perdo ( 151843 ) on Tuesday October 15, 2002 @03:17PM (#4455511) Homepage Journal
    Near the earth-sun Lagrange point one. It changes course for no apperant reason. I geuss that is the beauty of Lagrange points.

    It sure would be nice if a mixed composition asteroid decided to park itself in the earth-moon Lagrange one. We could use the kickstart for our space program.

    That's my primary dissapointment with their discovery that this is just a peice of junk from the apollo program.

    Then again, the thought of a 1 megaton peice of rock aerobraking on our atmosphere doesn't sit well with me.
    • by KarMannJRO ( 616677 ) <jowens DOT slash ... T homeip DOT net> on Tuesday October 15, 2002 @04:25PM (#4456134) Homepage
      Keep in mind though, the L1-L3 Lagrangian points aren't dynamically stable enough to attract things to them and keep them there. Only the L4 and L5 points will do that, where they're then usually called Trojans, 60 degrees ahead of and behind the secondary body. For L1-L3, some kind of station-keeping is needed to make something stay put, after some maneuvers to get it into the right place to begin with.
    • Re:Nice Manuver (Score:2, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward
      In a coordinate system that tracks the Earth, the L1 point is where the Earth's gravitational well and the Sun's gravitational well meet in a saddle. L1 is a special place where an object can switch between orbiting the Sun and orbiting the Earth (another possibility is the L2 saddle on the other side of the Earth).

      An asteroid cannot park itself there because the saddle shape will cause the asteroid to "fall" one way or the other.
    • Near the earth-sun Lagrange point one. It changes course for no apperant reason. I geuss that is the beauty of Lagrange points.

      It's partly that, but mostly just the fact that the picture is in a rotating reference frame. Anything in Earth's gravity well will more or less be dominated by Earth's gravity and have elliptical-looking orbits, but anything outside will follow strange-looking paths instead of the ellipses we expect.

      The big hint for this is that the object is deflected down (on the picture) when travelling left to right, but deflected up when travelling right to left, while in both cases travelling above the lagrange point (so neither being consistently attracted nor deflected).
  • hehe (Score:5, Funny)

    by RedWolves2 ( 84305 ) on Tuesday October 15, 2002 @03:22PM (#4455570) Homepage Journal
    The animations remind me of that game Spaced Penguin [bigideafun.com].

    I wonder what NASA's score would have been for launching this?
  • Animation (Score:3, Interesting)

    by DustMagnet ( 453493 ) on Tuesday October 15, 2002 @03:44PM (#4455770) Journal
    I thought the best part of the animation was at the end. You can see how the junk was pulled around the Earth by the Moon giving it the extra energy it needed to escape.
  • This reminds me of one of our online games...

    http://www.bigideafun.com/penguins/arcade/spaced _p enguin/default.htm

    Unfortunately for some, it takes shockwave or whatever it is that handles the "director" mime type.

    -Tim
  • "Did you know that there's a direct correlation between the decline of Spirograph and the rise in gang activity?
    Think about it." [snpp.com]

    That is honestly the first thing that popped in my head when viewing the animation.

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