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Peer-Reviewed Research Over The Web 154

bhoman writes "The San Francisco Chronicle (sfgate.com) has an article today about Stanford biochemist Patrick O. Brown, who helped develop low-cost DNA microarrays for gene research. He is seeking $20M to start a foundation that would fund peer-review of research papers and then make them available for free over the web, thereby avoiding the high-cost of subscriptions common in existing research publications. Predictably, some publishers seem to be warning that their publishing model is hard to improve upon. The article mentions that a previous effort by Brown and others, The Public Library of Science garnered the signatures of 30,000 supporters, but then implies that it basically failed, suggesting that academics need the journals more than vice versa. Sounds like Brown's idea is exactly what the web is made for."
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Peer-Reviewed Research Over The Web

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  • by MrBlic ( 27241 ) on Monday September 02, 2002 @06:27PM (#4185801) Homepage
    I think that the current method of publishing findings is going
    to be kept alive indefinitely by the people who thrive in the
    environment. Prestige is important, and those who filter through
    the peer review 'moderation' of the important journals certainly
    deserve it, and will get the funding to publish again during
    their next study. The only people who are left behind are the
    people who have brilliant insight, but don't have the patience or
    skills to jump through academic hoops and climb the academic ladder.

    The magic of the web is that people are going to be able to
    transcend the limits of paper publishing.

    Online laboratories where traditional researchers can share not
    only their results, but the material at issue itself in digital
    form. Check out the University of Iowa's virtual microscope,
    which is currently used for educational purposes.
    http://www.medicine.uiowa.edu/pathology /uarep_hist opathology/content_index_db.html

    There's another demonstration site, where people can point out
    phenomena in huge images created from a microscope...
    http://neuroinformatica.com The implications of online images
    of this size and quality are huge.

    One paper which is tied up by Elsivier IP is a PDF file which
    shows regions of the Macaque brain dyed with six different stains
    that each show different phenomena. In the PDF file are links to
    the full-size full-color images, which very much increases the
    value of the publication.

    Not only is the whole peer review process going to be
    accelerated, but an online simulation of the phenomena being
    studied will be able to grow and get more accurate with each
    researcher's contribution.

    Purdue has several simulations of yeast growth online, with the
    source available.
    http://www.hort.purdue.edu/cfpesp/models/models. ht m

    My dream is of an online simulation where people can add little
    hypothesis in the form of python scripts. The scripts which pass
    peer review as properly reflecting the physical phenomena are
    kept, and can accumulate into an accurate simulation of complex
    systems (maybe even parts of the human brain eventually)

    Even once the web pages let collaborators/peers accelerate the
    scientific process, the results will still be published by the
    traditional methods for years to come. (in my humble opinion)
    To many researchers, scientific work has not been done until it
    shows up in the prestigious journals.

  • Re:Won't Work (Score:1, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 02, 2002 @07:03PM (#4185985)
    And it will never change because the people who could implement change are used to the current system and afraid of losing what the system has so far given them.

    And the rest of us just roll over and play dead when the ones who do the hiring and firing say that things will never change. Except for a few like this Pat Brown guy.
  • by BlueRain ( 90236 ) on Monday September 02, 2002 @08:12PM (#4186319)
    http://www.soros.org/openaccess/

    It seems to be down now, but essentially the Soros foundation is studying this problem (and recognizing that the standard publishing model may be impeding scientific progress.)

    The Best part about this: they're funding stuff too! So if you have a great solution to this mess, please go and ask for money!

  • by jilles ( 20976 ) on Tuesday September 03, 2002 @03:38AM (#4187469) Homepage
    Just last week I received a box of photocopies of an article I published in one of Elsevier's journals in March. Apart from the fact that its nearly half a year late, what the hell should I do with 25 crappy photocopies of laser printer output of one of my own articles? We do have printers and copiers at our office.

    The whole process from beginning to end is so obsolete. I initiated contact with the journal editor more than a year ago by sending him a pdf of my article. He mailed back to thank me for my interest and asked me to send him three doublespaced paper copies to his office in the US (BTW reading doublespaced copies sucks IMHO). I did this, then I heard nothing for a long time. Finally I got a request to review a paper for the journal (this is quite common, most reviewers are also submitters). Finally after about half a year the paper was conditionally accepted (Yay!). This required an editing round and another submission of three paper copies. And several months later I was notified that my paper was accepted.

    I submitted a final version (by paper and electronically). That was the last I heard from them (a letter/email would have been nice) until I received the box full of photocopies. By monitoring the site I found out which in which issue of the journal my article was to be published.

    The editor of this journal is probably receiving a small fee for his efforts, which mostly consist of allocating reviewers to papers and putting stamps on envelopes. The actual technical editing is done by a bunch of latex monkeys provided by Elsevier. All communication is done by snail mail, communicating by email confuses both editors and elsevier staff (even though it would save loads of time).

    The worst thing of all is that their journal is far too expensive for individuals to subscribe to. Hence the only subscriptions go to university libraries who mostly store packs of unread dead trees in their archives. In my country, a significant portion of government research funds is used for this purpose (i.e. money intended for fundamental research is flowing directly to the pockets of publishers) which I think is outrageous. I'm pretty sure the situation is the same elsewhere.

    Now back to the role of the publisher. The publisher wastes everybodies time with a stupid editing process and by producing dead trees nobody reads anyway. It pays the editor a small fee and thats it. Apart from wasting everybodies time and funding the editor they do not actually contribute anything else. It is the editor who handles the peer review (100% volunteers as far as I know), it is the authors who deliver the content (100% volunteers). Taking the publisher out of the loop would save enormous amounts of money. Public funds could be used to fund editors and electronic hosting of journals for a fraction of the money currently flowing to publishers. This would not hurt the peer review process since it already depends on volunteers anyway.

    I have no other choice than to either comply with this obsolete process or pursue another career. The productivity of my university is measured in terms of number of articles published. One of the parties involved in annually creating a list of acceptable journals and a nr. of publications per dutch university is .... Elsevier. Natuarally their own journals are on this list.
  • by trevmar ( 188523 ) on Tuesday September 03, 2002 @08:09AM (#4187996) Homepage
    I just published two papers at the "Clinical Medicine and Health Research" site which was pioneered by British Medical Journal and Stanford's HighWire project in 1999. URLs are

    http://clinmed.netprints.org/cgi/content/full/2002 080004 [netprints.org]
    http://clinmed.netprints.org/cgi/content/full/2002 080006 [netprints.org]

    However, it seems my two papers were the only ones submitted in August 2002. The site was started in 1999, at the height of the bubble, and initially proved popular, but papers have fallen off significantly since then.

    They use online 'peer review'. Anybody that disagrees with your point of view can post a comment, which, after manual reading by an editor at BMJ, is then posted online under your original paper for all to see.

    You may submit your paper to the print publications regardless of it already being posted at the Clinmed site.

    --> a bit like SlashDot I guess :-) ..trevor..

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