The Future of MREs 335
jonerik writes: "MSNBC features this article today about scientists at Washington State University who are attempting to perfect a way to add two staples of American cuisine - eggs and macaroni & cheese - to the US military's MRE ration packs. The problem has been that MREs need to have a shelf life of three years. The scientists have focused on microwaving the rations during the packaging process instead of the traditional method of boiling the contents (which alters the smell and color of eggs and cheese and makes pasta soggy)."
The current menu (Score:5, Informative)
They look nice. I'll have a #3 please.
Re:The current menu (Score:2)
Re:The current menu (Score:3, Informative)
Yummy!!! (Score:1)
That's a meal that will keep our soldiers sane. The three great tastes that go great together!
Re:Yummy!!! (Score:2, Interesting)
I became an artist for putting together the perfect MRE. Some things trade for higher value, and eventually I would end up with something completely different than what I first grabbed, or with twice as much. It's like currency, only you that you can not only trade it and trade it again, you can also eat it.
As far as the freezedried items, the freezedried peaches are supposed to go with water, but they taste better crispy. They literally melt in you mouth!
MRE's are great in the field, because, unlike the hot food served in the field, you can eat them without having to imagine and pretend you are eating food at every chew. The only thing is that a regular diet of MRE's will leave you a little, well, plugged.
Re:Yummy!!! (Score:2)
*saliva beings to flow*
man its been too long. those peaches were so good =)
Re:Yummy!!! (Score:2)
Hmmm How about Reese's Eggs&Macaroni&Cheese Cups?
It's about time! (Score:1)
That's always been the problem... (Score:1)
Reason? (Score:1, Flamebait)
Re:Reason? (Score:1)
Re:Reason? (Score:3, Insightful)
I mean, it's not any more wasteful than spending money designing and creating newer and bigger SUVs or creating and marketing XBoxes.
What are you talking about? (Score:2)
Re:Reason? (Score:2)
Re:Reason? (Score:3, Interesting)
There are two major problems with this story. "The problem has been that MREs need to have a shelf life of three years. The scientists have focused on microwaving the rations during the packaging process instead of the traditional method of boiling the contents (which alters the smell and color of eggs and cheese and makes pasta soggy)." What?!?! As one who has suffered through "Omlette With Ham" too many times, I can assure you that eggs have been on the menu. Even today there's "Buttered Noodles" and "Pasta With Alfredo Sauce." A quick check of the menu linked to shows even more pasta dishes. What it doesn't show is "Pork Chow Mein." What am I going to eat when my unit runs out of those? I still miss the "Spicy Meatballs And Rice In Tomato Sauce." Now that was a meal.
Shelf Life (Score:1)
Re:Shelf Life (Score:2, Informative)
Temp - Shelf Life (months)
120 - 1
110 - 5
100 - 18
90 - 30
80 - 48
70 - 66
60 - 84
= 50 - 96
Tell me about shelf life... (Score:5, Interesting)
Apparently, if the Commies ever dropped the Big One on NYC, the survivors were supposed to live on water, crackers, and hard candies. The water was all gone by the time we went in there, along with the Geiger Counters (which I really wanted - apparently at some point some public agency came and took them back), but there were still maybe an 8' high 6' wide 18' long stack of all these boxes of candy and crackers, packed with various dates around 1963. There were big cardboard boxes with a Civil Defense logo on the side, the words SURVIVAL CRACKERS or CARBOHYDRATE SUPPLEMENT on the side, and inside were either 6 tins of crackers (~40 pounds total) or 2 45 pound tins of red and yellow hard candies.
Both were still good in '99 when we cut open the tins and tried. Crackers tasted pretty nasty and dry, but the candy was delicious. I still have stored in an airtight container some candy that was dated October 1963, I'm waiting for October next year so I can eat 40 year old sour balls.
Tim
Re:Tell me about shelf life... (Score:2, Informative)
Seriously, let's think about that for a sec...
We all pretty much know there would be widespread destruction, even if it were a relatively small bomb like Fat Man or Little Boy. But in light of the WTC tower collapse, imagine the entire area of NYC in the same ruins. If you were down in this bomb shelter and managed to survive both the explosion and the hundreds of buildings collapsing around you, would you even be able to get out.
And once you got out, think of all the debris, I mean an empty building being demolished on purpose is enough garbage, but then you'll have cars, buses, furniture, bodies, etc. Your average ICBM has a 5 - 6 megaton warhead, the two dropped over Japan were something like 50-60 kilotons, I expect even the the strongest building would be reduced to rubble.
The national guard would be completely helpless in any kind of rescue mission for survivors. And on top of all this, all you'd have to snack on would be some nasty crackers and sour candies! Of course, you could always resort to eating track rabbit like the homeless in the subways.
I've had an MRE (and I'm not military) (Score:2, Interesting)
In any case-- it's okay-- better than freeze dried anything-- but I still wouldn't like one of them falling on my head from the skies above-- it's not *that* delicious.
Re:I've had an MRE (and I'm not military) (Score:2)
Re:I've had an MRE (and I'm not military) (Score:2)
Re:I've had an MRE (and I'm not military) (Score:2)
I was an cadet for five years or so, and I've had my share of military rations. Some of them were excellent (the beefaroni, lasagna, beef stew and sheppard's pie were my faves), while others I absolutely despised and did everything in my power to avoid (like macaroni and cheese with peas and dry, flaky chicken and green gravy). The actual mac and cheese (minus the peas) was pretty good with a lot of ketchup.
When I finally got to be a cadet drill sergeant, I had my pick of the litter. The trouble-making cadets in my unit all got mac and cheese. And peas. Nasty, nasty shit.
J
Re:I've had an MRE (and I'm not military) (Score:2, Informative)
Now I'm having flashbacks of sitting in a hole, eating chicken breast in gravy, pouring the little juice flavour packet into my mouth, and then washing it all down with gulps from my canteen.
What, no Ramen noodles??? (Score:2, Funny)
Didn't these scientists ever go to college?
Need Ingenious Guinness Widget Engineers (Score:2, Funny)
You open the eggs, macaroni and cheese. A capsule inside explodes, instantly cooking the meal to perfection.
Mmmmm... incinerated gruel.
-Jeepthang
Re:Need Ingenious Guinness Widget Engineers (Score:2)
They already have pasta and cheese (Score:2, Insightful)
Look at menus [dla.mil] 10, 11 14 and especially 13.
How come Cheese Tortellini doesn't suffer from the same problems as Mac&Cheese as described in the article (pasta goes mushy, cheese tastes burnt) ?
Re:They already have pasta and cheese (Score:2)
Re:They already have pasta and cheese (Score:2)
"Where were you when the terrorists destroyed the World Trade Centers?"
"Well, son, I was out hiking in the wilderness. One of the longest field days ever. We left at about 4 in the morning, and began to hike. We gained over 3,500 feet over the course of 2 miles, then came down on Liberty Lake. Then--"
"Yeah, I'll bet you were barefoot too. And it was 40 below and snowing. I'm going to go play Final Fantasy LCXII now."
alters the smell and color? (Score:1)
But what about hot dogs and apple pie? (Score:5, Funny)
What next?
Peanut butter and jelly?
I can see it now.
"Hey, soldier. Get up at the crack of dawn, lug around a hundred pound pack through all kinds of terrain, in all kinds of weather.
Maybe get shot at. Maybe have to shoot back.
Maybe get your sorry butt killed.
But if you manage to make it back to camp, you can have three year old mac and cheese."
Bet the recruiting lines are a mile long.
Re:But what about hot dogs and apple pie? (Score:1)
Re:But what about hot dogs and apple pie? (Score:2)
Re:But what about hot dogs and apple pie? (Score:3, Interesting)
Hard work generally makes food taste better too. I used mine, mostly, when hiking around with a frame pack where I grew up. At the end of the day, that stuff tastes DAMN good.. it's several times easier on the stomach than dehydrated food, and usually offers a lot more variety.
Considering the requirements of being an MRE.. most notably the 3 year shelf life, it's amazing how good the stuff really is. Only downside compared to more orthodox trail food is there's more garbage to carry back with you, and MRE's are a bit heavier because the food is fully hydrated.
Re:But what about hot dogs and apple pie? (Score:2)
don't forget breakfree - the seasoning of the gods (tm)
Re:But what about hot dogs and apple pie? (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:But what about hot dogs and apple pie? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:But what about hot dogs and apple pie? (Score:2)
"Ugh. The jelly soaked into the bread again! I told those science nerds to give me the jelly in a seperate container."
boiling alters the taste? (Score:1)
What I can't believe... (Score:2)
You don't win wars with sal-ad! You don't win wars with sal-ad! You don't win wars with sal-ad! [cartoonsounds.com]
~Philly
ughhh... not everyone eats meat (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:ughhh... not everyone eats meat (Score:2, Insightful)
Cripes. PC is nice, and all, but this is a little extreme. About the only real choice you had in boot camp was to holler for what kind of meat you wanted. Didn't want either? Better eat something to give you energy while your Company Commander makes you drop.
Ah, the memories...
Re:ughhh... not everyone eats meat (Score:3, Insightful)
Happy soldiers are better soldiers. The idea that enforced misery makes better soldiers has historically been a popular one in a lot of armies, but every time the US military has come up against one of those armies, we've beaten the hell out of them (e.g., the Iraqis. The Iraqi POW's I took care of lived better under our care than they ever had in their own army in peacetime. Probably one reason they were so eager to surrender.)
-- US Army infantryman 1987-1989, US Air Force medic 1989-1997
Re:ughhh... not everyone eats meat (Score:2, Interesting)
good for bears (Score:5, Informative)
Rock or something .... (Score:5, Funny)
The little heater thingies (mmm, smell like acid), need to lean at an angle to work good
I may sound like a complete moron, but man, in the middle of the desert with no sleep, some dude brings up "Rock or something" and I keel over in laughter.
Re:Rock or something .... (Score:3, Informative)
Pound cake rules!!!
Re:Rock or something .... (Score:2)
Re:Rock or something .... (Score:2)
Re:Rock or something .... (Score:3, Informative)
We used to make some sort of cookie-like think using the creamer, sugar, and a flame.
The other advice I received was to dring *plenty* of water when living off of MREs. That's one more piece of advice I learned to respect.
-Paul Komarek
Re:Rock or something .... (Score:2)
Re:Rock or something .... (Score:2)
Re:Rock or something .... (Score:3, Interesting)
I was in the Marines during the last update of the MRE, Yes the Pound Cake is good....
But if anyone remembers Nut Cakes they will tell you it was ten times better then Pound Cake you get now. The Cherry Nut Cake reached a huge zen like status and used to be featured in MC Times cartoons. (I remember one of the old gunny handing out nut cakes to Marines in a fox hole, the caption was "Here's your Marine Corps Birthday cherry nut cake") Mention the nut cakes to someone who has been in over ten years and watch a smile cross thier face.
Re:Rock or something .... (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Rock or something .... (Score:2)
Re:Rock or something .... (Score:2)
It's hydrogen. It's sad to think about how much time I wasted trying to ignite the stuff. As someone else mentioned, the most mischievous thing to do with the heaters is put them in a soda bottle. I've also shaved with the water (don't try that at home) and stuffed them in my jacket to keep me warm on cold mornings. It's funny, I've wasted them in so many different ways but I rarely actually heated my food with em.
macaroni & cheese a staple? (Score:2, Funny)
Re:macaroni & cheese a staple? (Score:2)
Yeah, but when the Australians start making mac & cheese, I bet they're gonna put egg & pineapple on it. When I visited Australia (Canberra, about 10 years ago), it seemed like they put egg & pineapple on everything (sandwiches, pizza, burgers, etc.)
Re:macaroni & cheese a staple? (Score:2)
Kinda Surprised (Score:2)
2) These menus seem far more varied than that of the meals I remember eating in my college dorm. So maybe that's why people liked being in ROTC... (j/k)
God I hate those things. Well, the older ones... (Score:2)
There's still one that sticks out in my memory, Chicken and Rice. Man, that chicken and rice was tasty. Basically came in a nice vacuum sealed heavy-duty plastic baggie. You cut off a corner and squeezed it like toothpaste to eat. (Or, if you had a mini-set of folding pans, you could heat it up in a little aluminum cup and chow down)
But the dehydrated fruit, a little 2.5x2.5x.25 inch square of styrofoam looking fruit was n-a-s-t-y. So was the grape drink mix that came with some of the MRE's..The orange powder however, mmm, now that was nice, almost like Tang.
Coming soon to the battlefield (Score:5, Funny)
LBCs - Lazy Boy in a Can, for the soldier out on the battlefield that needs to relax for a while. Can be used with the ...
SBCCs - Superbowl Commericals in a Can, for the soldier caught out in battle and unable to tune into the superbowl. After all, who cares who wins or loses, the commercials are what count!
BJCs - Blowjob in a can. This was created by the sex toy industry, and was licensed by Uncle Sam for the "protection" of our boys overseas. (Has been tested under battlefield conditions.)
OBLCs - Osama Bin Laden in a Can, developed by army engineers with help from the "Dolly" project, this secret device will be used if we are unable to locate the real Osama Bin Laden. Everyday soldiers can have fun with their Osama in a Can by making him do silly stunts, and recording the insane hijinks on....
CCC - CamCorder in a Can. Send in your funny battlefield tapes to America's funniest Battlefield videos, and win an MRE!
I just had waaay too much fun with this ;)
Re:Coming soon to the battlefield (Score:2)
Whenever I goto the states I watch the commerials and say "wow!"
Re:Coming soon to the battlefield (Score:2)
Oh, no! They are going to ruin a(pretty bad) thing (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Oh, no! They are going to ruin a(pretty bad) th (Score:2)
Re:Oh, no! They are going to ruin a(pretty bad) th (Score:4, Insightful)
I served as an OPFOR Support Platoon Leader at the National Training Center at Ft. Irwin, CA. Unfortuantely for guys like you, the chains-of-command of visiting units (especially Guard units) were too lazy to bother to get hot food, and would just go for an entire 3-4 weeks on MRE-only for their soldiers because its an easy out. Don't take this as an accusation or anything against you and your unit, I just think its a shame that the Army has spent millions of dollars working on ways to get fresh food for Joe, and most leaders choose to just use MREs.
The US Army has mobile kitchens, and tons of creative ways of getting hot chow to soldiers, unfortunately most of the officers are too lazy to coordinate that kind of support.
Now there is a difference when training for war and just being stupid, but after an extended period of time, the nutrition of troops becomes highly important. MREs are meant as a supplement to regular meals - we usually went Hot-MRE-Hot for Break/Lunch/Dinner, for normal missions, and used that as a baseline.
Naturally that changes according to the mission, but you'd be suprised at how many REMFS (Rear-echelon motherfuckes) would rather say "We'll go all-MRE" because they are too lazy to plan hot food for their soldiers.
Re:Oh, no! They are going to ruin a(pretty bad) th (Score:2)
After our first week, the only T-rats that we had left were (1) barbecue pork and (2) rice. For the next two weeks it was BBQ and rice for lunch and dinner. It was literally years before I would eat barbecued anything.
Re:Oh, no! They are going to ruin a(pretty bad) th (Score:2)
Admittedly, you couldn't eat it dry and like it (tasted like cardboard and chalk-dust). (But it was still better than the slime-encrusted weiners).
Like most of the first generation MREs, the blessed pork patty required preparation...fill the little plastic baggy about a third full with water and let it rehydrate...throw in some of your cheese-spread, a crumbled up cracker, and some tobasco. UMMM, good! The best MRE of all time (at least until I got out in '97).
Of course, in those days, we weren't lucky enough to get individual bottle of tobasco...it was just one big bottle to the case of MREs. Then they started putting individual bottles in *some* MREs. It wasn't until generation three or four that all MREs came with hot sauce.
(And does anyone remember the short-lived dehydrated strawberries? They were even better than the dehydrated pears. Sadly, they were only packed in chicken a la king and chicken stew for a short time in generation two).
If you have to talk about BAD MREs, let's talk about omelette with ham...or maybe tuna with noodles (the only saving grace was that it came with the chocolate nut cake -- the absolute finest piece of MRE cuisine ever).
I'd better stop now before I get all worked up.
Fresh MRE's (Score:2)
MMM... There nothing quite like Fresh MRE's! :)
MRE Trivia (Score:2, Funny)
Anyone know other trivia?
My Family and Wife's Family is Military (Score:2)
The cousin who is a marine is also a vegan. Yah - hilarious - the vegan marine. She is in Afghanistan right now - wonder what the hell she eats. No dairy, no eggs, no seafood, no poultry, and no meat.
I was a vegan for a few years - pretty tough to find food in a supermarket that has no dairy. Imagine what it's like when your food comes in a grey plastic bag.
Vegan meals in a bag (Score:3, Interesting)
C-Rations (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:C-Rations (Score:2)
Of course, I'm just glad they got rid of "Chicken-a-la-Shit"
MRE (Meal Ready to Eat): Three lies for the price of one!
And don't forget MRE babies: you don't take a dump for three days, beacuse of the preservatives. When you do, it comes out square, like the damn box...
Re:C-Rations (Score:2)
That's what it means, here I always thought it stood for "Meals Rejected by Ethiopia"
Re:C-Rations (Score:2)
Ham and Eggs is the only one I even remember.
That, and the "chocolate" air-hockey pucks.
--Blair
Canadian Rations (REM's/IMP's) (Score:2, Informative)
The difference however, is that the Canadian ones taste GOOD. You usually get:
1. Your main meal. (things like mac and cheese, stew, salsbary steak, chicken, chili etc)
2. Tea.
3. Coffee
4. Hot Choclate
5. Choclate Bar
6. Some kinda fruit based destert
7. A little bread loaf
8. Peanut butter, jam, salt/pepper and sometimes spices
9. Some bonus items like instant mashed potatoes, instant dressing..
I remember really enjoying these things. I believe they had a shelf life of about 4-5 years.
*mmms just thinking about them*
Smilee
BTW. I think I enjoyed them more then the hot food we sometimes got shipped while were in the bush.
Re:Canadian Rations (REM's/IMP's) (Score:2)
They have one called Ham and Egg omlet which is not bad if you are really hungry.
The best is using the gravey from the salsbury steak package to make the instant mashed potatoes.
I do miss the old canned rations with the canned ham and canned bacon. The bad thing about these new rations is that you need water. The old cans you could put on the engine of your truck to heat up.
Strange the Canadian Army had both those meals (Score:5, Interesting)
The breakfast versions of the Canadian Forces IMP (Individual Meal Pack) has contained Macaroni and cheese since at least the 1980s, and although it is no longer available now they also served a mean "ham & egg omlette". For anyone who has seen this notorious "omlette" it was like a compressed rubber sponge in a foil packet with ham floating at the bottom. Some people despised it, I thought it was rather good. I also know that the shelf life of these meals was 3 years. Maybe the cold up here helps them keep longer.
If you want to get a good idea of what the Canadian meals are like, check out the bottom of this page [shauny.org]. MREs and the number each soldier gets a day vary greatly from country to country. No shitting but the French get pate de fois gras and a little wine in their rations, although they only get one box of rations for the whole day.
Canucks get 3 packs a day, each worth between 2500 and 3000 calories (soldiering takes a lot of energy), similar to the Americans they are rather formulaic in there content but much more substantial: the first foil pouch contains a main course (chili con carne, chicken breast, even cabbage rolls to please the Albertans), the dessert pouch (sliced peaches, pinapple spears, or the nasty cherry cake) follows, but the best part shall always remain the "goodie pack". Not only will it include the strangest brick of bread you've ever seen, it is also guaranteed to contain various condiments, juice crystals, soup, coffee, tea sugar and whitener, lifesavers (oh the irony), an after dinner mint (yes, really), a toothpick and either a candy bar or cookies. You can also expect to find matches, an industrial strength napkin, a long neck spoon (so your fingers don't get dirty) and best of all, a moist towlet (field shower is the other term that comes to mind). Much more substantial than the Americans but still lacking both the infamous bottle of tobasco sauce and the self heating pouch.
IMPs also include a survey as to how you liked your meal, a great bit of fun to fill out when your bored in the field. I can proudly say that because of my input they added mini-Ritz crackers and mini-Oreo cookies to the array of snacks that come with any ration pack. Whenever a Canadian soldier stuck in the mud or snow of the ubiquitous "field" looks into his/her ration pack and smiles to see they got mini-ritz cheese sandwiches rather than the instant (and useless) chocolate pudding that I helped contribute to that smile.
Re:Strange the Canadian Army had both those meals (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Strange the Canadian Army had both those meals (Score:3, Funny)
FYI (Score:2, Informative)
Got Rice? (Score:2)
Maybe I just don't understand the logistics of it, but I would think if I was given a choice of carrying around a 5 lbs package of MRE's that will last me a couple of days vs. a 5 lbs bag of rice that will last me weeks, I would have to go with the rice...
Re:Got Rice? (Score:2)
Rice doesn't carry 3Kcal in the equivalent space. Plus, for rice to have any flavor, you also have to hump in your "eleven herbs and spices." And let's not forget that many soldiers aren't exactly Wolfgang Puck.
MREs on the other hand, are tasty, filling (to the point that you'll stay filled...for days), and anyone from the densest jarhead to the laziest wing-wiper can fill the heater pack to the line and warm up their food. Failing that, PFC Ugg can just tear open the pouch and chow down (I personally preferred my MREs cold -- especially tuna noodle casserole); how's your uncooked rice taste? Too, you aren't building any cook fires that could give your position away.
And the best reason of all for choosing MREs, rice will only make birds explode, whereas the heater pack reactants can make damn near anything into an instant Weapon of Terror(TM).
Re:Got Rice? (Score:2)
Aside from needing meat and other supplements, the problem with rice for troops in the field is that cooking rice does take time, water, and fire -- there are many times it can't be done. The IJA probably just trained the troops to tough it out when food couldn't be prepared -- or to snatch a chicken and eat it raw. This is not such great policy in the long run, you lose troops to medical problems.
Remember, Wellington got the cooks up in the middle of the night before Waterloo to ensure that his troops started the day with a full hot meal -- and always claimed that this was the margin of victory, it gave the troops the strength to hang on a couple of extra hours until Blucher finally arrived. Considering the conditions for shipping and cooking food in the field in 1813 (or was it 1814?), these meals were probably a lot worse than MRE's. (And I've eaten MRE's at their worst.) But they were nutritionally complete meals, which rice isn't...
The absolute worst scheme for provisioning an army, ever, was probably Sparta's. Boys started military training at something like 6. They were never fed. They had to steal food, with severe beatings if they got caught. Spartan commanders didn't have to worry about supplies, but I suspect that Sparta's allies would have been very reluctant to have Spartan armies cross their territories...
Probably a recruiting thing... (Score:2)
So this is probably a recruiting pitch. Can you see it now?
Definatly inspires me to want to join and get shot at in some foreign country...
Re:Probably a recruiting thing... (Score:2)
When the economy is doing good and there are jobs available, the military has trouble recruiting. When the economy soured in 2000, and especially after 9-11, recruiting became easier.
Other WSU Food Preservation Stuff (Score:2)
This is the same WSU that invented a cheese canning process during WWII for military purposes. You can still order it from their creamery in assorted flavors [wsu.edu]. The Cougar Gold in particular is good; it's the only cheddar-type cheese I know of that is aged for a full year.
The future of MRE's should be a dead-end (Score:2, Insightful)
It seems like a joke for them to try to figure out how to include eggs and such when it seems clear they have quite a bit of work to do to even make the current MREs better than dog food.
Re:The future of MRE's should be a dead-end (Score:2)
Most ex-military types I've talked to have said the same thing. While they weren't exactly raving about MRE's, they said you'd be suprised at what tastes good after the 10th consecutive hardest day of your life.
World War II US Army K-Rations (Score:2)
For what it's worth, some Army cooks were able to work wonders with not much more than this kind of stuff. Dad, an Ordnance Corps guy, one day came across an infantry outfit in a not-all-that-rear area that was getting fed from a field kitchen that definitely had its act together -- Dad was awed that the cooks had even made soup and baked some fresh bread. It had to have been the first real meal these dogfaces had eaten since they'd gone into the line in France.
Re:is it just me (Score:1)
Re:MRE's (Score:2)
They were not edible
They were not ready
They were not a full meal
Re:MRE's (Score:2)
The worst food: Air Force mess hall food, trucked out to a firing range 30 miles of bouncy gravel road away. Apparently there was a steam table or something in the truck to keep it hot, but after being kept hot for over an hour, we weren't sure whether the green goo had once been peas or green beans...
OTOH, the old C-rations (Korean War surplus, I think) weren't bad, if you didn't have to eat them too often. These were little boxes of canned foods ("tins" if you're British). Even the cake for desert was canned, and pretty good, at least compared to the freshly and badly cooked stuff at the mess hall... The selection was rather limited, and in particular, there aren't very many ways canned meat can come out (spam, spam, spam, spam,
And no way could rats gnaw through a C-rat can...
Re:Why is military stuff always on Slashdot??!?! (Score:2)
As for why -- technology for killing is still technology, and therefore interesting to geeks. And sometimes that technology, regardless of its original intended purpose, turns out to be pretty damn cool all around. Everyone knows how DARPANet became the Internet; do you also know that modern emergency medicine is almost entirely based on battlefield experience in Korea and Vietnam, or that modern commercial air travel grew directly out of the WW2 bomber industry?
Re:Why is military stuff always on Slashdot??!?! (Score:4, Insightful)
Especially in the Air Force & Navy -- if you are in a Comm unit, you essentially have a "white collar" job. Air Force personnel dont get up at oh dark hundred hours in the morning to run, they wait until 3 weeks before the yearly fitness test to get in shape. (I can speak from personal experience here
In short, dont forget the first computers where designed for military purposes, the first PC (Altair) was designed by an Air Force engineer.
These military guys and gals know there stuff and take *pride* in what they do (ideas that may be to old-fashioned to many on this site, but it works in the military, trust me)
So yeah military postings do have a hell of alot of relevance to this site.
Re:Why is military stuff always on Slashdot??!?! (Score:2)
[T]he military is often on the bleeding edge of technology.
Personally, I always liked to think of my time in the military as being on the "leave-the-other-guy-bleeding" edge of technology.
Re:Why is military stuff always on Slashdot??!?! (Score:2)