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Black Hole at Center of Milky Way 165

kwertii writes: "The Washington Post reports new evidence that there is a black hole with the mass of 2.6 million suns at the center of our galaxy. The Chandra X-Ray Observatory happened to be looking at the presumed site of the hole at the moment it absorbed a comet, blasting x-rays off into space as a byproduct. The implication is that the Milky Way is slowly spiraling down into a giant galactic drain..."
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Black Hole at Center of Milky Way

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  • by 1984 ( 56406 ) on Thursday September 06, 2001 @06:35AM (#2259156)
    I saw a BBC "Horizon" about this the other day on a flight. They talked a lot about "feeding" of apparent suppermassive black holes that they think live in (probably all) galactic centres.

    Apparently they stop "feeding" after a while because the mass of the surounding matter in the galaxy means it won't fall in. The attraction from the black hole is balanced, so the matter orbits the hole. Anything itinerant -- like a comet say -- that passed near the hole slowly or closely enough would still get swallowed, but most of the galaxy should stay intact.

    Of course, that's iff nothing else intereferes. The Andromeda Galaxy is heading our way, so in some (distant) future time matter in it will become a significant gravitational influence on matter in our own Milky Way. That should upset the balance, and researchers are hypothesising the disruption setting off feeding of the black holes at the centre of both galaxies, which will go on to swallow up large portions of each galaxy.

    Should be quite a show.
  • by Hater's Leaving, The ( 322238 ) on Thursday September 06, 2001 @11:17AM (#2259272)
    According to the BBC article, the size is 108 times that of the diameter of the sun, and the mass is 2 million times the mass.
    108^3=1.25 million
    => the density is 8/5 that of our own sun.

    Anyone else think these figures sound like they've been pulled out of someone's arse? Or am I just a cynic?

    THL
  • by CheshireCatCO ( 185193 ) on Thursday September 06, 2001 @11:24AM (#2259379) Homepage
    n this aspect you are right - without such an object the Milky Way could not exist as it does now, as there would be nothing stronger than the attraction between solar systems to hold it together.

    The attraction between stars would be quite enough to hold the galaxy together. For decades, galactic researchers didn't have any reason to think that there was a black hole at the center of our galaxy. They never needed it to hold things together; after all, the black holes looks just like 3 million solar mass stars in the galactic nucleus to our Sun.

    By way of analogy, globular clusters are hold themselves together without black holes in their cores (N-body simulations indicate that they are, in fact, dynamically stable). And there is at least one case of a galaxy that probably does not have a black hole in its nucleas. All tests have come up negative for it.

    The fact that the Milky Way is a spiral demonstrates that the orbit is degrading.

    Not really, no. The spiral structure of galaxies has nothing to do with "spriralling down the hole." It's probably some time of density wave phenomenon, stable and self-perpetuating. The orbits of individual stars and gas clouds are basically stable, Keplerian orbits.

  • by moller ( 82888 ) on Thursday September 06, 2001 @11:26AM (#2259408) Homepage
    Or approximately infinite.

    Density is defined as d = m/v (m is mass, v is volume.)

    The volume of a singularity (the object at the center of a black hole) is effectively zero, so the density of the singularity is undefined (though commonly said to be infinite).

    When the diameter of a black hole is referred to, they are most often talking about the Event Horizon, the boundary around the singularity from which nothing can escape, not even light.

    Note that the distance of the event horizon from the singularity is determined by the mass of the black hole, not the density or volume (since density and volume for ALL singularities are effectively equal). Gravity is still dependent on mass, and the event horizon is simply the region of space where the escape velocity from the singularity's gravitational pull exceeds the speed of light.

    (on a side note, since the only real requirement for a black hole is to have zero volume, anything could become a black hole if compressed enough.)

    ~Moller
  • by Dyolf Knip ( 165446 ) on Thursday September 06, 2001 @05:03PM (#2260270) Homepage
    the only real requirement for a black hole is to have zero volume, anything could become a black hole if compressed enough

    Indeed. Problem is, the smaller a black hole, the faster it evaporates due to Hawking radiation*. So while you could theoretically turn my cat into a black hole, neither he nor it will last very long (provided you do it somewhere far away from some mass is can eat up). And you'd owe me a new cat.

    * Hawking radiation: he hypothesized that all the time all over the universe, pairs of virtual particles pop up. They are anti-particles to each other, so they annihilate each other as soon as they appear and nobody is the wiser. But, should a pair appear right on the event horizon, one particle gets sucked in and the other goes free and to balance the energy books, the black hole loses a very, very small amount of energy. Needless to say, it takes a while. This big monster of a hole will probably evaporate around 10^100 A.D.

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