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Longitude 96

Like Gutenberg, and unlike some of the other self-taught inventive geniuses who spring to mind (like Franklin, Edison and Tesla), John Harrison was not a catholic inventor: his speciality was time. He did, though, draw from the fields of metallurgy, cabinetry and mechanics to find unconventional materials and techniques, and with what can be seen either as impossible optimism or sheer stubbornesss, Harrison managed to solve a problem which had killed thousands of his countrymen. By applying and extending the time-keeping technology of his time, he invented a means by which ships at sea could reliably determine their own longitude, and the story of how he did it ranks with any of the great dramas of science. Dava Sobel tells that story in Longitude: The True Story of a Lone Genius Who Solved the Greatest Scientific Problem of His Time.

Longitude
author Dava Sobel
pages 184
publisher Penguin
rating 8.5
reviewer timothy
ISBN 0140258795
summary Inventive genius rethinks the calculation of time and revolutionizes navigation.

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A vexing problem, a golden fleece

Specifically, from the age of around 30 (though Sobel points out that the time of his birth is only known within a few years), Harrison devised a series of time-keeping devices designed to keep time with accuracy orders of magnitude more accurate than the water, spring and pendulum-driven clocks of the day. The ferocity and diligence with which he wore down the technical gremlins conspiring to throw clocks off by seconds or minutes a day demonstrates a personal dedication as intense as those of the Las Alamos scientists laboring to forge the atomic bomb. Like those men, Harrison had something else in mind besides the joy of invention -- he was determined to win a prize which in modern money would mean millions of dollars, not to mention the prestige of royal recognition.

That prize (in the amount of 20,000 pounds) was set forth in a 1714 act of Parliament for anyone who could provide a practical method for ships at sea to determine their latitude to within half a degree.

With a clear sky and a sextant, finding latitude is relatively easy. Once it was widely accepted that the earth was a globe spinning about an axis perpindicular to the equator, the rest was (to our modern viewpoint) a piece of cake: locate a star (Polaris, at least in the Northern Hemisphere) which approximates an extension of that axis of spin, note the apparent angle from an observer's horizon, and perform some simple trigonometry. The problem with finding longitude is that no such simple trick exists.

By constructing elaborate star charts which correlate observed lunar and stellar positions, it was hypothesized (and eventually demonstrated in practice) that longitude could be determined using a complicated process of observing the sky (only at night, and only on a clear enough night to observe, of course), then comparing the stellar observations with a log of previous observations compiled by astronomers over a lunar-orbit cycle of 18 years. Though cumbersome, the amazine thing is that enough observations were compiled for this method of longitude determination to not only catch on, but for the charts to remain in continuous repair and revision until 1907. So desperate were navigators of the time to know where on the globe they sailed, even this tricky means was better than none at all.

Earthly contention

A deftly-woven substory -- and perhaps really the main story -- is of the rivalry between the astronomers and the clockmakers, both in general and specifically in the case of Harrison and the man who turns out to be in parts both his competitor and his his judge, astronomer Nevil Maskelyne. For the early years of the race for a longitude method, the star-watchers held favor, as their methods were seen as purer and more reliable than those of the craftsmen whose tiny mechanisms were subject to mishandling as well as corrosion and other seagoing inevitabilities. Of all the entrants in this high-stakes race, Maske and Harrison represented probably the best (or at least the best-positioned) of each camp, so their struggles and the eventual outcome are particularly significant.

The culmination of Harrison's work came after 4 generations of refinement, a pocket-sized device, the appearance of which is at once antique and surprisingly modern. And (what should come no surprise), the Harrison chronometer keep startlingly accurate time -- good enough to comfortably meet the requirements of sought-after practicable longitude system. For reasons that make the book worth reading, collecting on that prize was anything but simple.

Reactions:

As I read this book on the subway, I found myself nodding and grinning, and at times frowning obediently at the evil-landlord melodrama of Harrison vs. Maskelyne. The story of the unschooled inventor toppling the expectations and machinations of a well-connected science establishment isn't just interesting -- it's positively inspiring. It's hard not to know the eventual outcome just a few pages in, but Sobel keeps the story interesting by loosing the particulars slowly, revealing in turn setbacks and triumphs.

Though Sobel doesn't address this issue explicitly, the magnitude of the longitude prize and the thoroughly bureaucratic, arbitrary behavior of at least some of its keepers also raise the issue of state-funded science in general, and made me think of the moon race, mass immunizations and and everyone's favorite giant global network, no matter who invented it.

Longitude is also interesting for what it says about the transfer of information and ideas (if not technolgy itself) which went on in the time before today's Information Age.

Some more praise dressed up as complaint:

The only gripe I have with this book is hardly fair, given it's brevity. But here it is: a few pages of illustrations and more detailed annotations (even an associated Web site) would make the book as much a starting point as a destination. While the reader-friendly avoidance of picayune detail is probably a wise compromise -- I know I appreciated it!, I do wish the book had a few pages at least of additional technical information. The glossy illustrations on and inside the front cover are some consolation at least, since they're good photographs (if small) on a nice glossy surface. That such an ommision is noticeable speaks well of this book -- most books leave me wishing they were shorter, not longer.


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  • There's been a show on this (maybe a Nova episode) on PBS that I've caught the tail end of a couple of times. Pretty good, although I'm sure the book, while short, has more details.

    There are some interesting parallels to today. I shall try and remember this the next time I tell someone that their idea can't possibly work, or that computers will never be able to .

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  • Isn't this review a bit old? I read the book ages ago (at least a year I think)...

    Anyway. It's a very interesting book, if a little short. Get a copy and have a look, quite interesting to read about a true innovator tirelessly pursuing his dream, even though the authorities at the time do pretty much everything they can to stop him (various reasons, mostly political).

  • At least I started to see it but it was soo damn dull i couldnea take it.

    For A more poetic take on the problem of longuitude, Try reading the "Island of the day before" by Umberto (The Name of the Rose) Eco.

  • It was a great book, based on a great epsiode [pbs.org] of NOVA [pbs.org].
  • Like Gutenberg, and unlike some of the other self-taught inventive geniuses who spring to mind (like Franklin, Edison and Tesla), John Harrison was not a catholic inventor: his speciality was time.

    I'm a bit confused by this analogy. How are the religious beliefs of an inventor assoiciated to their field of expertise? Is religion a significant theme in the book? It just strikes me as a bit of an odd way to open the review of a book about the father of the chronometer...

    Nit: "Catholic" is capitalized.

    $ man reality

  • I remember seeing it in a bookstore, it may have been in the UK. It was a wonderful book and a facinating story of the problem of the 17th century.

    I recomend this one.

    The Cure of the ills of Democracy is more Democracy.

  • Don't know about the Nova episode, but there was an excellent miniseries on A&E of this book.
  • Actually, I think the book came first.

    The book was also made into a movie (for TBS, I think). Well worth catching if (er, when TBS being how they are :) it is on again.

  • No, you're the nit. "catholic" means "universal". Pay attention in class!

    Harrision only did research in one field, not many, therefore he was not "catholic". Whether or not he was (Roman) Catholic is besides the point.

  • A&E [aande.com] did a big production of the book that was pretty good. You can order [aetv.com] VHS or DVD direct from A&E's web site.

    It showed a lot of the old mechanisms that were very cool. The early models were huge, which big ol' stabilization systems. You don't realize how hard the problem was until you see him go through all the early trials of trying to keep a clock accurate on a ship that is bobbing up and down and weaving all over the place.


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  • by orac2 ( 88688 )
    Catholic is actually an adjective, not a proper noun. It means "universal". The phrase "Catholic church" is like "Red Army"; everyone reads it as part of the name, but it does have an idependant existence. Its just people don't use it independantly very much that they think it must refer to the Roman Catholic Church.

  • There's been a show on this (maybe a Nova episode) on PBS
    Yeh, I watched that on BBC:
  • Biographies like this one are stories of the true nerd. The guys who could hack before free information was readily available are the true masters. In this day and age, it's so simple to become a "geek" that "geekdom" is hardly anything special. It's just too easy.



  • The word "catholic" means universal. In this case, I believe he means that these inventors made advancements in a number of fields. The word "Catholic," of course, refers to a religion.
  • Another Nit:

    The clause police should have caught that one. 'Like A, unlike X, Y, and Z, B was not a catholic inventor?' What the hell does that mean? And what does that have to do with time? are you saying that Gutenberg was not catholic, or that Franklin, Edison and Tesla were catholic? There is a serious contradiction in that sentence. I suppose you meant "Like Tesla, et. al., and unlike Gutenberg (who seems irrelevant as far as comparisons go) John Harrison was not a Catholic inventor, which the parent to this points out is a seemingly irrelevent tidbit of information to lead with.

  • Without books, we'd all be a bunch of rednecks chasing our cousins around the outhouse.

  • by Kotetsu ( 135021 ) on Friday December 08, 2000 @07:56AM (#572516) Homepage
    Actually, no it isn't. To quote from Webster's Collegiate Dictionary:

    catholic 1: Comprehensive; Universal; broad in sympathies, tastes or interests

    For once, a Slashdot editor does something literate and he gets flamed for it by those who miss it. BTW - I'm replying to your post because your the only one who obthered to log in. Why waste time replying to AC's.
  • by hubie ( 108345 ) on Friday December 08, 2000 @07:56AM (#572517)
    I believe that what was solved was the greatest engineering problem of the time, not scientific. Everyone knew that you needed an accurate timepiece, it was just that no one knew how to build one that worked on a ship.
  • Haven't read the book but the NOVA episode was cool: NOVA [pbs.org]. The A&E mini series was on of the best things I saw on TV last year. Watch it when you get the chance: A&E [aande.com]
  • by yack0 ( 2832 )
    I always wondered where catholics came from - there's a whole field of catholic inventors...

    ;)

  • Wow - I had no idea the guy who wrote and directed the Sci-Fi Channel's Dune miniseries was such an important guy.
  • by multipartmixed ( 163409 ) on Friday December 08, 2000 @07:58AM (#572521) Homepage
    You can read more about John Harrison here [easynet.co.uk].

    Anyhow, to make a long story short, I found it interesting that the British government required him to explain the workings of H4 to a panel of scientists (etc) in order to pass the knowledge of how it worked on to the public.

    The article I've quoted mentions that his endowment made him the first recepient of a government research grant -- and the government had the sense to make sure he published the inner workings before paying him.

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  • This book is pretty much a waste of time if you know anything about the longitude prize - it contains little more than the kind of stories grandparents tell little children (i.e. little to no actual research or analysis, a nice glossy surface sheen on anything that might be related to scary subjects like physics and mechanical engineering, etc). If you don't know anything about the prize, I guess it's worth the hour or so it takes to read, but there are far better books to be read on the subject. The Quest for Longitude : The Proceedings of the Longitude Symposium is one of them, and the name of the other esacpes me...
  • Older than that even.
    According to amazon, first published October 1995.
    There maybe no website, but there is a DVD.

    http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/080271312 2/ o/qid=976294602/sr=8-3/ref=aps_sr_b_1_5/002-113863 7-3460021
  • Longitude was a great read, and I thought it was wonderful that a book essentially about engineering was so widely read. The book was inspired by the "Longitude Symposium" held in 1993. That symposium has to get the award for the snazziest proceedings ever: (they came out a couple years after the book) The Quest for Longitude : The Proceedings of the Longitude Symposium Harvard University, Cambridge, Massachusetts November 4-6, 1993. William J. H. Andrewes (Editor). [amazon.com] You can see some pictures of Harrison's machines at Britain's National Maritime Museum [nmm.ac.uk], but Dava Sobel is a much better storyteller, so you'll enjoy reading Longitude more if you avoid reading the text at the museum site. On the other hand, the story of Rupert Gould, [nmm.ac.uk] who restored Harrison's clocks, isn't told in Sobel's book. It was told in an awful soapumentary on cable this fall, but four hours was far far too long.
  • by b1nd0x ( 206244 )
    Just giving the obligatory reference to the A&E documentary based on this story and, i presume, this book. You can get the movie (VHS&DVD) at A&E [aande.com]. Most notably, from the A&E store, we have this:

    The Illustated Version of Longitude [aetv.com]

    "enriched with 178 lavish illustrations--including portraits, maps and scientific illustrations--complete with expansive, elegant captions that illuminate and expand upon the captivating story." Also available for a tad cheaper at amazon [amazon.com], i.e. shop around.

    So basically, if we weren't so focused on cross promotion with thinkgeek, the one major criticism is moot ey?

    arrrtttttttthhuuuuuuurrrrr

  • I'm a bit confused by this analogy. How are the religious beliefs of an inventor assoiciated to their field of expertise? Is religion a significant theme in the book? It just strikes me as a bit of an odd way to open the review of a book about the father of the chronometer...

    Nit: "Catholic" is capitalized

    Religion has nothing to do with this. Small-c "catholic" means broad-minded.
  • For once, a Slashdot editor does something literate and he gets flamed for it by those who miss it.

    What impressed me even more was that I believe he was the first person to use the word "loosing" on this site without it being a typo or misnomer. :)
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  • I'd like to see a resource on self-taught inventors/scientists. To me this is much more interesting than longitude.

    (Score:2 Off topic) And speaking of inventions, this is the coolest I've seen in a while - sawstop [sawstop.com].
    Now that deserves a patent.

    Another great invention by somebody that is self- taught is...
  • Here's a better link about A&E's movie [aande.com]. Interviews, timeline and behind-the-scenes clips.
  • and not French or Belgium or anything.

    The invention of the chronometer helped the British rule the sea, and estable colonies all over the world, thus indoctrinating the natives in decnt British ways.

    Thus, when the colonies became independent, they became decent, productive countries, like India, Australia, South Africa, and yes, the United States and Canada.

    Contrast this with former colonies of France of Belgium, they're generally still roouted in savagery and firmly mired in the third world. The Congo, Cambodia, Algeria.
  • I'm afraid it is you who is the is shithead. Take a look at a thesarus (you do know what what is?). The word catholic means wide-ranging or general. In this context it has absolutely nothing to do with religion.
  • by MikeBabcock ( 65886 ) <mtb-slashdot@mikebabcock.ca> on Friday December 08, 2000 @08:06AM (#572532) Homepage Journal

    Catholicism, the religion, is indeed capitalised. The name "Catholic" was chosen by the Catholic Church because it meant "universal". They were thus stating "We are the universal Church".

    The word catholic [dictionary.com], on the other hand, is just a word that means universal or complete.

  • by Anonymous Coward
    The only gripe I have with this book is hardly fair, given it's brevity. But here it is: a few pages of illustrations and more detailed annotations (even an associated Web site) would make the book as much a starting point as a destination. While the reader-friendly avoidance of picayune detail is probably a wise compromise -- I know I appreciated it!, I do wish the book had a few pages at least of additional technical information. The glossy illustrations on and inside the front cover are some consolation at least, since they're good photographs (if small) on a nice glossy surface. That such an ommision is noticeable speaks well of this book -- most books leave me wishing they were shorter, not longer.

    There is an illustrated version of Longitude with 110 color and 73 b&w illustrations. Highly recommended.

    Check out this link:

    The Illustrated Longitude [amazon.com].

  • The Moderators Have Been Trolled
  • For a more fanciful take on the importance of longitude, check out Umberto Eco's somewhat meandering but very engaging Island of the Day Before [borders.com].

    Like most Eco novels, it's a little on the huge side, which can be mitigated somewhat by getting the book on tape, delightfully read by Tim Curry.

  • Nice antithesis (the book for the illiterate bit). Kinda like saying internet for the unwired, or digital cable for those without television sets. P.S. This is not meant as a flame, just saying it's a good use of a literary device.
  • I bought and read the book a couple of years ago when it first came out and liked it very much.

    There's an illustrated version of the book which I wish they would've put out in the first place. The illustrated version, I believe, came out around the same the TV version featured on Nova, a pretty good little cross-marketing effort.

    It's good. I highly recommend it.

  • Catholic has a meaning other than the religious one. It means 'universal' or 'general'.
  • There is an excellent exhibit of time and Harrison's work, including several of the clocks at different stages in evolution, at the Royal Observatory in Greenwhich, England. If you think his work is impressive from reading the book, you should see some of his contraptions in person!
  • The news is this fellow's review of the book, doesn't matter whether the book is new or not.
  • Maybe it is not important for you, but it was important for Gutenberg. He was devout Roman Catholic to the point, that telling otherwise about him would perhaps offend him.

    His earliest prints were Psalms and parts of the he latin Vulgate Bible.
  • Wow, not only is my work on chronometers getting attention, but my Dune miniseries has generated several stories. Now if only all this attention would do something for my karma.
  • It did matter to Gutenberg. He was printing mostly Catholic material, too. Never noticed that he was about to be put to death for it.

    BTW, When was it last time that Catholics were trying to put you to death for science?
  • catholic (adj.) 1. Of broad or liberal scope; comprehensive. 2. Including or concerning all humankind; universal. (note that lower case 'c' in catholic makes for a different meaning than does the upper case 'C' in Catholic - Pope Paul)
  • I saw the BBC documentary and I have read this book and I can assure you that the book is far more interesting. While I agree with Timothy that there should have been more detail (not really a critisism for a book to want you needing more) it is a really fascinating account of the race to discover an accurate method for calculating longitude.
  • Gutenberg may well have gone to confession daily but he was not a catholic inventor... he may well have been a Catholic inventor, though. catholic (adj.) 1. Of broad or liberal scope; comprehensive. 2. Including or concerning all humankind; universal. "Catholicism is regressive, catholicism is progressive": discuss... talk amongst yourselves...
  • This book has been out for well over a year in the UK. When did the episodes come out on PBS? And are the PBS shows bought from the BBC for cheap? I like PBS as they seem to be one of the stations that endeavours to get good content. Actually, how many really good books are based on shows, TV series or movies? Not many and most are not memorable.
  • The BBC produced veryy good DocuDrama about the John Harrison story. including a script of the programme. http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/horizon/longitudetran s.shtml
  • by swm ( 171547 ) <swmcd@world.std.com> on Friday December 08, 2000 @08:43AM (#572549) Homepage
    I visited the Royal Observatory in Greenwich, England a few weeks ago. It's a museum now. There were two displays that caught my eye.
    • A GPS receiver, running, battery powered, LCD display, showing

      0 0.0145' W longitude
      or about 35 feet off of the prime meridian. (Well, that's where it was...)
    • A 4 foot cast iron cylinder, with glass caps, a pendulum inside, a vacuum pump and assorted other machinery outside. The plaque explained that this was the standard high-precision timepiece used in the Soviet Union through the 1970s? 1980s? (I forget the exact date; it was quote recent) by TV stations, and radio stations, or anyplace else that needed to know the correct time.

      The plaque was tactful about it, but what it basically said was that the Soviets used these monsters because they could build a vacuum chamber, and they couldn't build a quartz clock...

  • catholic (adj.) 1. Of broad or liberal scope; comprehensive. 2. Including or concerning all humankind; universal. lower case is much different than upper case... DOH!!! Catholic: a religion catholic: see definition above Good Lord, where do all these semi-literates come from?
  • I don't think Tesla was self-taught. I believe he had a degree in Physics or Mathematics. This was (partly) the source of problems between himself and Edison. When Tesla first came to the US, he worked in Edison's labs, and was treated cruelly. Edison hated people with educations, and especially hated Tesla. Of course, this hatred was later amplified because of the struggle between Tesla's AC power and Edison's DC.
  • Make no mistake only by reading this book can you fully understand what this man achieved.

    Firstly as far as history documents he had no formal training. He built clocks that were superior by orders of magnitude. And in order to achieve this he had to invent many of the components from scratch. I'm sure many of you will be surprised to know that this guy even invented the ball bareing in an atempt to make his clocks more friction free. Only when you read the book do you really understand the impact this man has had on modern living.
  • Everyone previously has stated that catholic means universal. I for instance remember reciting things about being a catholic church even though we were C. of E.

    However, a second meaning is the one seems more prevalent nowadays. That is "liberal". As in catholic tastes.

    The two are a bit more closely related if you view them both as being not narrow-minded nor bigoted.

    However, the "liberal" definition is probably the most likely in-brain translation that would take place in modern day Britain.

    FP.
  • A true geek is the "geek" was the one hacker who could continue his work/play despite being ridiculed and never waiver from that. Wonder if the NewAge Geek really has what it takes to be a hack? I doubt it....Hence so many people out there attracted by the money, with all the certifications under the sun, but failing miserably either on simple tasks or on learning or troubleshooting anything that is new and not listed in the books. Welcome to the NewAge Geek... Nowadays its almost cool to be a geek, hence so many more joining the bandwagon. The reason why, especially in the computer geek field probably comes down to this: Money. Rant over....
  • H4 (and H1,H3,H3) can be found at the National Maritime Museum at Greenwich, London.

    If you cannot visit, you can see a picture online:

    http://www.nmm.ac.uk/searchbin/searchs.pl?exhibi t= it1740z&axis=976296806&flash=false&dev=no

  • The few pictures alone explain more about the sort of leap of genius that happens in the tech world than anything the words could say. Evolution versus revolution, clearly described. The only problem I had with the book was I found the ending fairly anti- climatic. The story she spends most of the time telling is sort of done about 3/4 the way through and I didn't really care about the rest.
  • The review notes the lack of technical details on Harrison's chronometer.

    David Landes has written a great book, A Revolution in Time [amazon.com] which gives a detailed history replete with enough technical details on timekeeping to make my head spin.

    Harrison's work is covered there

  • His last chronometer keep better time than my old Accutron watch (circa 1960). Dava wrote a great book, and thanks for calling it to my attention again.
  • Are you trolling? You seem to have cause and effect reversed; the NOVA episode was based on the book, not the other way around.
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  • This is actually a better link than the one I've provided above:

    http://www.rog.nmm.ac.uk/museum/harrison/index.h tm l

  • It interesting that few people realize importance of longitude and the impact it has history. As a sailor, I marvel that an abstract instrument can give me information that is totally unrelated and totally necessary. A watch ticking away at a fix interval can tell me where I am.

    The interesting side effect is that its importance as a tool made it ubiquitous. Think of how may things rely on time. Because watches to tell time solved the longitude problem, it became an indispensable tool. Because of the demand for watches, it created volumes which sparked an industry for watches. And because it was common place people used it to solve other problems. To the point where every computer and networking device depend on time to communicate.

    I think few people also realize the many modern consumer electronic were things developed for the space programs. Things developed to solve a practical problem which changes our lives.
  • A wonderful quick read. Its amazing how the guy invents the thing, and gets no credit until he's almost dead.
  • My US public education prevented me from actually reading the book or knowing much about history, but the A&E dramatization implied that British government board was never going to grant Harrison the award.

    Harrison was seen as an outsider in the British class structure. No one was going to let a country carpenter upset the establishment of astronomers and their unwieldy lunar cycles solution.

    The dismantling of H4 was shown, not as a positive early example of open source, but as a simple delaying tactic. They were hoping they might damage the single model Harrison had made. I think this story says more about how the British class structure was threatened by a visionary from outside their midst than some early example of open source evangelism.

    The dramatization also indicates the board never gave in and paid Harrison. He only received his just reward by act of parliament.
  • I've only read a chapter or so of it, but I watched the Nova presentation (click here [pbs.org] for transcript or here [pbs.org] to find it in PBS's online shop for $19.95 on VHS) and plan to get around to it sooner or later. For the truly geeky, it is also available for Palm or WinCE [peanutpress.com] via Peanut Press.

    My father, a clockmaker himself, enjoyed the book enough that he immediately had me look up Dava Sobell's address via an Internet phone book, just so he could thank her for it directly. This startled me at the time, because I had no idea he knew such a thing was possible. :) I haven't seen the A&E version yet, but it stars Jeremy Irons so it must be good. I mean, how could a movie starring Jeremy Irons [rottentomatoes.com] be bad?
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  • I enjoyed the TV show. They plot-shift between Harrison's life and the life of a 20th century enthusiast who restored the clocks. One of the underlying themes is that they were both obsessed with the project to the point of destroying their personal lives. One might take it as a cautionary tale for today's computer professionals. If you don't mind the plot-shifting, it's good but rather long. I think it might have been 3 hours.

  • Closer to four years now. All based on a conference the author attended, made some notes and then wrote them up in to the book. She came very close to being sued for plagarism.
  • Greets --

    The Royal Greenwich Observatory is now a muesum, but the United States Naval Observatory at http://www.usno.navy.mil/ [navy.mil] is a good resource for this kind of (modern) information...

    Grins --
    Carl

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  • by jelson ( 144412 ) on Friday December 08, 2000 @09:42AM (#572568) Homepage
    The last thing that Harrison wanted to do was give away the farm, but the Longitude Board forced him to for a simple reason: the invention would have been useless without knowing how it worked.

    Consider the problem that the Board was facing: they had a fleet of hundreds of ships that were in desperate need of reliable navigation. What good does one clock do you? As brilliant as a mechanical engineer as Harrison was, the burden was on him not to create just an instance of an accurate clock, but a method of reliably building accurate clocks in the quantity needed.

    When I read Longitude I really thought the author gave the Longitude Board the short end of the stick. She painted a picture of an evil board that was trying to delay awarding the prize for no reason other than spite. While there was undoubtedly spite involved on the part of some people such as Maskelyne, I think the Board was exercising due diligence by asking Harrison to test the clock on numerous occasions, build replicas, teach other people how to build replicas, etc. A unique and unreproducible clock would have been almost as useless as no clock at all!

  • This book does give Harrison the credit he deserves for inventing the first truly eternal and reliable way to determine longitude. However, when I read it I couldn't help that think that the race to claim the prize was a toss up, nontheless. If I remember correctly, even though Harrison had completed one of his incredible clocks before the astronomers finished mapping the stellar positions, he took so long to make a second clock, and then a third clock, that by the time he had really perfected the darn thing, the sextant was in wide use. Granted, Harrison's method was an easier and more reliable way to calculate longitude. Yet, his solution was so elegant, that mass production, given the time period, was almost impossible. Thus, it seemed to me that while he is certainly deserving of praise (especially because mass technology soon caught up with him), the most practical solution for the time period (even if more prone to errors) was the sextant.
  • by Lumpish Scholar ( 17107 ) on Friday December 08, 2000 @10:23AM (#572570) Homepage Journal
    The book (or at least its subject) has been made into a 1998 episode [pbs.org] of NOVA [pbs.org] (here [imdb.com] is the Internet Movie Database [imdb.com] entry; there's also a transcript [pbs.org] on the PBS Web site [pbs.org]), and a made-for-TV movie [imdb.com] (starring Jeremey Irons) by A&E [aande.com].

    (Sorry for my previous erroneous post. There have been books made from NOVA episodes; I believe Simon Singh, author of The Code Book, adapted the 1997 episode on Fermat's Theorem [pbs.org] into a 1998 book [fatbrain.com].)
  • A very similar variation of Harrison's chronometer was used in the navy (well, Canadian Navy, anyhow) up until the late '60s. One on each ship was kept in a massive refrigerated unit that kept the temperature constant so as to maintain accurate time. This was opened once a week in order to set the time of another chronometer that was kept for daily use.

    Then digital watches came along and blew all that out of the water. Sigh.

  • Good post, AC. Tesla did indeed have the finest education a prestigious European university could offer at the time.

    However, I don't see how his education enabled him to be such a visionary. I've been reading some of his writings and some of it just gives me the chills. He came up with the entire system of alternating current - not by scientific method, not by trial and error, but by envisioning how it would all work. When he first physically built the first AC motor, he had the idea all worked out in his head. The guy was a prophet, and its a shame some of his other ideas never came into being. We could be using an electrical system that transmitted electricity through the upper atmosphere and using ~90% less energy than we do today.

    There was a definite spiritual quality at play in Tesla's hugely significant inventions, and that is most definitely not taught in schools.

    By the way, check out the PBS special on Tesla Dec. 12.
    http://www.pbs.org/tesla [pbs.org]

    I watch the sea.
    I saw it on TV.

  • Yes, next week on slashdot.org:

    +Book reviews: _Origin of the Species_ by Charles Darwin and _Caves of Steel_ by Isaac Asimov.
    +Technology: preview of Microsoft's "Windows 95."
    +United States: analysis and discussion of the Clinton-Dole election results.

    Timothy, please understand: I mock you because you have the gall to think slashdot readers haven't heard of an international bestseller that came out five years ago.
  • The Rev. Maskelyne, the villain of _Longitude_ (in, I believe, Sobel's own words), also makes an appearance in Pynchon's _Mason & Dixon_. Said novel includes a scene of Maskeylene's clock talking to Mason's clock, IIRC.
  • I'm surprised that if you can plow through UE's books then you found Dava Sobel's boring. Umberto just occasionally gets overly verbose.

    Elgon
  • I just finished reading this book for my Western Civilisation class. (We also watched the Nova television show in class, but did not finish it). Great book; highly recommended. It's full of interesting plot twists not even mentioned in the review, such as the 'alliance' between John Harrison and Astronomer Royal Edmund Halley (of comet fame), and the relationship between Harrison and highly-esteemed London clockmakers.
  • "No. This use of the word is obsolete and inappropriate."

    Bullshit. It is a perfectly good word. You are illiterate, that's all.

  • Bugger TV (but only if you're that way inclined), go to Greenwich and actually SEE the thing! And Greenwich makes a nice change from London. Take a zodiac up the Thames (if only I could have afforded that, had to take a water-bus instead) and go enjoy uncluttered green for a couple of hours. And they're still counting 'down' to the 2000 millienium (the one we already had, not the real one) there, so maybe they're not that smart.

    Oh, and you'll also find out where 'Dutch Courage' comes from.

    Muahahahahaha
  • I'd like to see some documentation for this allegation. In the Introduction in Sobel and Andrewes' The Illustrated Longitude (I recommend this version, which is the excellent original Sobel text with the addition of hundreds of beautifully printed photographs, maps, diagrams, and paintings), Sobel states how she came up with the concept for the book:

    Will (Andrewes, coauthor of
    The Illustrated Longitude) and I met each other over an exhibit of astrolabes at Chicago's Adler Planetarium in February 1992, but the subject soon turned to longitude. Will, as curator of Harvard University's Collection of Historical Scientific Instruments, invited me, a science writer, to report on the Longitude Symposium he planned to host nearly two years later in Cambridge Massachusetts. I hoped to attend the three-day event and write an article about it for a populat magazine... After months of unsuccessful petitioning, I finally found a home for my idea at Harvard Magazine just a few days before the symposium started."

    This would tend to strongly indicate that your allegations of "plagiarism" are based on false information, especially since you provide no source or supporting evidence for your assertion, and it appears that she began work on the project well in advance of the Nova episode.

    A few comments of my own:

    Anyway, this is an excellent book, as is Sobel's newer work, Galileo's daughter, a fascinating look at the life of the genius through the surviving letters of his daughter to the great man. You come away convinced that she was fully as impressive as he was, and the book offers great insights into the complex politics and culture of Italy at one of the most interesting moments in its history.

    Writing engaging history is not always easy, but Sobel is a master of the craft - despite the intrigue of the setting, it's no stretch to say that Longitude would likely have been yet another dry and soulless scholarly tome in the hands of a lesser writer. This book should be required reading for anyone that seriously considers themselves a technologist, and the Cinderella/Underdog aspect of the story has been rarely matched. (The better-than-real movie, Tucker, a Man and his Dream comes to mind as something as good in this regard, but its Hollywood exaggeration weakens it some.)

    By the way, if you haven't seen the A&E Movie based on Longitude, I'd recommend spending a few hours on it the next time it's on. (Or see if it's in the video stores - I don't know, having not rented a video in years.)

    Finally, anyone who likes this sort of thing should very seriously consider subscribing to American Heritage's magazine Invention and Technology, which has all sorts of interesting articles about the history and impact of teechnology.
  • Well, while Harrison's immensely superior solution used an engineering approach, one could argue that the problem itself was indedd of a scientific nature, but I think you're splitting hairs here anyway - Engineering is simply useful science.

    Of course I'm an engineer, why do you ask? :-)
  • The word "catholic" means roughly, "universal". And the capitalizaiton is not a mistake, since the little c means implies this meaning, while "Catholic" carries the implied word "Roman" prepended to it.

    This is why even us staunch Calvinists have no trouble affirming the Apostles creed, which contains a stement of belief in the catholic church, in spite of the fact that we have significant differences with the Roman church dating back to Martin Luther.
  • I receied this for Xmas a few years ago, and I must heartily recommend it. The world would be a far different place were it not for the invention of the chronograph.
  • You can see the actual timepeices, IN OPERATION at the observatory in Greenwich. You can get there on the tube, or by taking one of the tourist boats along the river. They have all 4 of them, plus the first copies made.

    They are incredibly complex. I would love to buy a set of drawings, but I doubt I could ever find the time to actually build one, there must be several thousand separate parts in the things.

    We won the submarine challenge. Watch us build a coal fired steam race car December 20.
    -dp-
  • I read this book a while ago, and was thoroughly entranced by the story. I wish I could remember more details, but the thing I remember most is this.

    If you take a look [nmm.ac.uk] at the four timepieces that Harrison built, you'll be floored by the final result. The book says something like: "However, when people see H4, they are stopped dead in their tracks."

    It really is astounding. H1 looks like an early prototype. It looks as though, if you shook it, pieces would fly in all directions. H2 has the appearance of a later prototype-- much more rugged. It's starting to look like something that can be taken out to sea. H3 looks a little like H2, but with some fancier components added. H4, however, is, nothing less than a work of art. It's so completely different that you wonder what the point of the other three was.

    One must have a great deal of respect for a man who, when he sees a better way, drops everything that he's been working on, and follows the new direction. Be it genius or recklessness, one must respect the way he followed his objective, as opposed to his own work.

    --

  • The allegations of plagarism were made in the trade magazine "Bookseller", I have no idea which issue or when as I no longer work in the industry.
  • I believe that what was solved was the greatest engineering problem of the time, not scientific. Everyone knew that you needed an accurate timepiece, it was just that no one knew how to build one that worked on a ship.
    I completely disagree. The requirement was that you develop a method of reliably determining longitude at sea. One of the various ways of accomplishing this is by determining your local time and comparing it with the time at a known longitude. And, one of the various ways of determining the time at a known longitude is by building an accurate timepiece that works on a ship.

    Most people were convinced that a mechanical clock would never be accurate enough to keep Greenwich time. So the astronomers spent decades characterizing the moon's orbit, such that people would be able to determine the time by observing its current position and comparing that to a chart of time vs. predicted position. This turned out to be tough because the moon has a bizarre orbit (with something like a 17-year period), but the lunar method that was being developed alongside Harrison's clock ended up coming to fruition at the same time as Harrison's H4.

    Now, put yourself in their position. Which method would you rather trust?

    • Harrison's clock, which while marvelous was relatively untested, and was hard to come by -- good luck trying to get Harrison to build one for you! And good luck finding someone who is nearly as skilled as he who might build it instead! Plus it might go overboard, break, be stolen, etc. And would be ungodly expensive.
    • Accurate lunar orbit predictions that were gathered over the course of something like 40 years and, though they admittedly required complex computations and many observations that could be hard from the hull of a rocking ship, had no cumulative error. And were reproducible as easily as copying a chart full of numbers (no craftsmanship is required here!) I'm sure everyone reading slashdot appreciates how much easier it is to reproduce and disseminate information, rather than tangible objects.

    Now, if it were me back in the 18th centry, I think I would have been amazed at the H4 clock, sorry that I didn't have one, and still put my money on the lunar method. I think the real unsung heroes in this story are folks who came after Harrison---like Arnold---who took Harrison's design and improved upon it in such a way that an accurate clock could be mass-produced at low cost. Later design of reliable clocks available to the masses is what made it viable.

  • Selective Availability has been turned off for a while now.
  • The Nova episode covers ocean navigation, not just the search for longitude. I had the privilege of visiting the Royal Observatory in Greenwich, England, and seeing John Harrison's clocks. Other comments cover this well.

    I also worked at Kwajalein in the Marshall Islands, and saw how the Marshallese use a knowledge of winds, current, and stars to find very small islands in a very large ocean. The islanders are aware that a stationary island in a steady wind and steady current has a wake, like a motorboat on a lake. The trade winds and ocean currents provide the environment. Marshallese, and other islanders, use a chart of sticks and cowrie shells as a guide, and feel the wave motion with their hands to search for island wakes.

    A friend, Virgil Stennit, a telemetry technician, made a trading voyage on a ship navigated in this manner. He was suitably impressed when they unknowingly passed an island during the night. The crew spotted the discrepancy in currents, then the Captain turned the ship around to find the island's wake and the island. The Captain dipped his hand in the water to check the currents, and found landfall easily.
  • He was paid a "kings ransom" for the clock. (well almost, I know the details, if you don't read the book).

    The King's Ransom was paid to solve a real problem that just isn't getting solved but needed to be. That 20,000 pounds (about several million dollars by todays rates) saved the British Empire millions of pounds and increased its ability to hold its growing empire.

    I think the US goverment should take a lesson from this and offer a billion dollars as a prize for the things that need to be solved like cure for the common cold or aids. Right now the common cold cost the country about hundred of billions of dollars a year in lost productivity, makes about 6 billion for the drug compaines and is a major killer of older people. Offering the person (not company) that comes up with a solution to the problem a billion dollars is quite an incentive for a solution.

  • this review of a five year old book is front page news, but handheld phasers in two years isn't? who do you have to sleep with to get a post around here?
  • I've read the book, and I loved it. It really goes into detail, and manages to make all of it interesting even if you don't have any particular interest in seafaring. Haven't seen the TV show though.

    I also found out something else about Harrison: he was a music buff. In fact, he invented his own tuning system (a variation on meantone) based on pi, which apparently approximates just-intonation (small whole number ratios between frequencies) much better than contemporary equal temperament, but never caught on because it required a few more than 12 tones per octave (and hence could not be played on a standard 7-white 5-black clavier keyboard).

    A man named Charles Lucy rediscovered it when trying to find an ideal tuning for his guitar, and has developed it into a comprehensive system. Information on it can be found here [harmonics.com].

    That site also has links to a lot of resources on alternative tuning systems, a field I happen to be interested in.


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  • Read a dictionary some time you fool. I suppose you think the sentence "The nice policeman defused the bomb." is about some cop that disarmed a nuclear device.
  • Just kidding. I daresay that "catholic" and "Catholic" are the same thing, just as "liberal" and "conservative" don't mean the same things they did 50 years ago. Besides, it's relative to the times, is it not?

    The Catholic church derived its name from the word catholic, meaning universal as you said. However, the church has had 1800 years to change that into a brand name
  • Actually, it would be nice to have a forum option for moderation adjectives (hint ;-).

    > Confusing / Jumbled / Ignorant
    > Concise / Accurate
    > Long winded / Bloated / Rambling

    etc.
  • by maw ( 25860 )
    I hate to do this; I really do, but ITYM "you're". Furthermore, interrogative sentences are meant to end with question marks.

    Have a look at some Advanced You're [lancs.ac.uk].
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