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NASA Will Man Destruct Switch Just In Case
Posted by
CmdrTaco
on Saturday May 10, @09:28AM
from the explosions-are-cool dept.
from the explosions-are-cool dept.
Ant writes "Popular Mechanics reports if the looming Discovery mission or any other between now and the spacecraft's retirement loses control, National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) is prepared to ditch it in the Atlantic ocean — or blow it up. The article also shows complete no-fly-zone maps and a photograph of the switch."
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Four Buttons? (Score:5, Funny)
I know, I know
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Re:Four Buttons? (Score:5, Informative)
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Re:Four Buttons? (Score:5, Funny)
Best use a time window, to allow for differences in 'local time' (a relative notion for space operations)
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Re:Four Buttons? (Score:5, Interesting)
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Slashdot Translation (Score:5, Funny)
Test: ping
Arm: login root
Destruct: rm / -rf
Safe: logout
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Re:Four Buttons? (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:Four Buttons? (Score:5, Funny)
That button is for mission controllers that wanted to be astronauts but didn't make the cut. It blows up just one astronaut, but leaves the shuttle flying. Correct procedure when using this button is to laugh maniacally then yell "Who wants to be an astronaut now, bitch!" before flicking the switch.
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Re:Four Buttons? (Score:5, Funny)
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photograph (Score:5, Funny)
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Not news (Score:5, Informative)
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Re:Not news (Score:5, Insightful)
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Re:Not news (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:Not news (Score:5, Funny)
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I hope their communication channels are secure (Score:5, Interesting)
...would be pretty nasty if someone if someone figured out how the radio comms for this function worked.
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Encoded Signals (Score:5, Insightful)
From the description in the document, it sounds like one coded signal to 'arm' and a second coded signal to 'fire'. I'd bet that due to the nature of the system, it's transmission method will be so simple that it rarely needs to be tested and as such gives little opportunity for homicidal black-hat analysis.
Finally, I'll also bet that the codes are as top-secret as to-secret can be (as in: Get caught with this and you'll disappear forever). It wouldn't surprise me if the codes are created and handled by just one person on the day of use and never used again. Or perhaps two people where only one person knows the arm code and the other the fire code before the system is finally set.
However it's done, I'd like to think that a hell of a lot of thought went into system security
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Re:Encoded Signals (Score:5, Interesting)
I'm sure the codes are tightly controlled. It's really not hard to design a very secure system, when it only needs to send one message, and that very rarely. An arbitrarily long, purely random key generated and distributed to the transmitter and receiver under tight security would do it. Denial-of-service would be a more difficult problem to address, but then jamming the signals isn't exactly easy when you're competing with some fairly high-power transmitters on high-gain dishes aimed right at the receiver. And they've got RF measurement vans that I assume patrol for interfering signals, malicious or otherwise.
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destruct switches _should_ look like that. (Score:5, Insightful)
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Already been used (Score:5, Informative)
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As if this is new.. (Score:4, Informative)
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Other abort modes! (Score:5, Informative)
The Solid Rocket Boosters can't be stopped once they are started, but they have their own navigation system (rate gyro assemblies, and inertial measurement units) that are considered as/more reliable as those on the orbiter due to the rigidity of the SRBs. So the reason this "self destruct" button exists is because there is no "off" button for the SRBs, but, as far as I know, it is only an issue if its quad-redundant navigation system fails and somehow its thrust gets stuck in an unsafe vector, and that is very unlikely.
More detail, including why you can't jettison the flight deck with all the crewmembers: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_abort_modes [wikipedia.org]
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Technical details (Score:5, Informative)
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Re:People inside? (Score:5, Informative)
Yes, they are. They always have. *Every* NASA rocket launch includes a self-destruct to prevent ground casualties. This includes the manned missions. In such cases where it would be used, the crew is either dead or will unavoidably be dead very shortly, and the lives on the ground must be saved.
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Re:People inside? (Score:5, Informative)
And if you need an example of why those destruct systems are required, watch this [youtube.com].
I've met at least one of the Range Safety Officers while working out at Cape Canaveral. It's not something they like to talk about much, when it comes to the Shuttle.
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Re:What a kewl job (Score:4, Informative)
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Re:Space Shuttle Discovery (Score:4, Interesting)
As the parent said, remote destruct capabilities are simply par for the course when your strapping things to that much explosives and toxic chemicals. Really it should make us feel safer that NASA is honest about the risks and is willing to do what it needs to do to insure (as best as possible) public safety.
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